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Re: M_Boats: M17 Spar Identification
by Dan Farrell 31 Jan '17

31 Jan '17

Thanks very much. Looks more recent than some of my hardware, but the mast section looks right. Dan Farrell M17 #301 "Keith R. Martin" <keith.richard.martin(a)gmail.com> wrote: >Hello danf.us > >Check this link out for M17 specifications.. > >http://www.msogphotosite.com/Scripts/Information/downloaddocument.php?id=199 > >Cheers > >Keith > >*Keith R. Martin, P.Eng.* > > >*Burnaby, B.C. CanadaSerenity, M17 #353* > > > >On 30 January 2017 at 17:42, <msog(a)danf.us> wrote: > >> HI All, >> >> I have M17 #301. I'm trying to identify the spars used on the boat, and >> finding it less than trivial. Does anyone on this mailing list have any >> hints or guesses? >> >> I've been idly considering the standing rigging, thinking about where and >> how I would add something like spinnaker pole parts ( ring/track & topping >> lift ), and thought of my warped old boom, and started browsing and >> guessing, but curious what kind of parts I might be able to find that were >> made for the spars. I haven't found anything that specifically says what >> spars were used, and I haven't stumbled across any parts that looked >> particularly like what I have onboard. >>

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Sailing with SoCal Potter Yachters
by Blair Ashworth 31 Jan '17

31 Jan '17

Went sailing yesterday in Dana Point with the SoCal Potter Yachters. Had a great time. Got to visit with Bob Eeg and a fellow Monty 15 sailor, Fu-Shing Pan who sails M15 #120. Here is a short video I posted on Youtube if you are interested. https://youtu.be/CvwvG0wRIXg Blair M15 #126

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Re: M_Boats: Intentional Capsize for M15
by Blair Ashworth 29 Jan '17

29 Jan '17

Thanks again everyone. Great replies and info. Also, so glad that Bert was safely helped back to the marina. At any age, that would be a frightening encounter! My M15 still has the foam blocks and both of my cockpit lockers have the original pans - all sealed, no way for water to get into the hull. So I feel very safe in my pocket cruiser! Had a great sail in Dana Point yesterday with the So. Cal. Potters. I'll shoot a link out later to a quick youtube video I'm uploading soon. Blair M15 #126

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Re: M_Boats: Latches
by bownez＠juno.com 29 Jan '17

29 Jan '17

Hello Larry and Listers, I'd like to install some locker latches on my M17, but need ones that don't dig into your legs while moving around the cockpit. The soft draws look fine, but I wonder how sturdy they are. We need to have a latch which is preferably metal and mounts flush. Up to this point I have been using a landyard fed from inside the locker back into the galley area to a cleat. 33 degrees in Minnesota, off to the Keys on Friday! Mr. Bones ____________________________________________________________ Warning: Don't Use Probiotics Before You See This Gundry MD http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/588dfe17c67087e1779fbst02vuc

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Re: M_Boats: Intentional Capsize for M15
by Blair Ashworth 29 Jan '17

29 Jan '17

Thanks for the great replies from everyone. Really appreciate it and helps me understand the boat better. In a worse case scenario, glad it won't sink. Keeping the hatch-boards in during strong winds, and wearing a PFD, makes a lot of sense too. Question for Bert - When the boat turtled, how did you get it upright? Were you able to do it yourself or did you have crew to help? Sounds like with a knockdown, the boat will be easy to right or right itself, but the turtle may have taken some effort? Also, is it possible to bale it out at that point, or is a rescue / tow needed? Thanks guys, and if there are any other stories or advise out there, keep em coming. Blair M15 #126 Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 22:56:24 -0500 From: "Bert Hall" <bert.hall(a)bell.net> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Intentional Capsize for M15 Message-ID: <333631FD78A4430F80640A9932F56E38@Allinone> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=original Hello All, In 2015 four conditions of wind, water, current and point of sail came together and my M- 15 turtled under full sail before I could even release the main sheet. I can tell you unequivocally that the Monty will not sink when righted even though she is filled with water providing that the factory flotation is still in place. Instead of experimenting with a controlled capsize my advice is to wear your PFD, keep the drop boards in place and the main sheet in hand no matter how benign the sailing conditions may seem. Enjoy your Monty safely. RTH.

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Re: M_Boats: Intentional Capsize for M15
by Keith R. Martin 28 Jan '17

28 Jan '17

Many many years ago, the guy who first taught me to sail told me "if you keep the boat on the water and the water out of the boat the rest is just details" :) Keith R. Martin, P.Eng Serenity M17 #353 On Jan 27, 2017 4:14 PM, "Conbert Benneck" <chbenneck(a)gmail.com> wrote: On 1/27/2017 3:29 PM, Blair Ashworth wrote: Hi Blair, An important thing to consider is, you have to always keep the water outside of the boat..... Do you have water tight seals on the sail locker lids? They should be closed and sealed. Do you have a means of closing them so that they can't fly open in a knock-down? I had hasps that fitted tightly; eg, they wouldn't just fall open,I installed them so that you had to apply some force to open them. When I sailed, the hasps were always closed so that water stayed on the outside.... Yes, you will get a little inside via the clearance of the hatch boards; but you are not letting in multi-gallons at a time. Keep all water on the outside, all the time, and you'll be OK. Connie ex M15 #400 LEPPO Thanks for the great replies from everyone. Really appreciate it and helps > me understand the boat better. > > In a worse case scenario, glad it won't sink. Keeping the hatch-boards in > during strong winds, and wearing a PFD, makes a lot of sense too. > > Question for Bert - When the boat turtled, how did you get it upright? Were > you able to do it yourself or did you have crew to help? Sounds like with a > knockdown, the boat will be easy to right or right itself, but the turtle > may have taken some effort? Also, is it possible to bale it out at that > point, or is a rescue / tow needed? > > Thanks guys, and if there are any other stories or advise out there, keep > em coming. > Blair > M15 #126 > > > > Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 22:56:24 -0500 > From: "Bert Hall" <bert.hall(a)bell.net> > To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Intentional Capsize for M15 > Message-ID: <333631FD78A4430F80640A9932F56E38@Allinone> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; > reply-type=original > > Hello All, In 2015 four conditions of wind, water, current and point of > sail > came together and my M- 15 turtled under full sail before I could even > release the main sheet. I can tell you unequivocally that the Monty will > not > sink when righted even though she is filled with water providing that the > factory flotation is still in place. Instead of experimenting with a > controlled capsize my advice is to wear your PFD, keep the drop boards in > place and the main sheet in hand no matter how benign the sailing > conditions > may seem. Enjoy your Monty safely. RTH. > >

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Bernard
by SALGLESSER＠aol.com 27 Jan '17

27 Jan '17

Hey Bernard, You are certainly welcome to join Gail and I on our Sage 17, Air Born. Though we might make you take the tiller. salngail

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Fw: Wrinkleboat RT-IGCR 2017
by jerry＠jerrymontgomery.org 26 Jan '17

26 Jan '17

For any of you thinking about coming but are hesitant because you don't know the lake, jump on this offer! Bernard is an outstanding sailor, maybe the best of us. -----Original Message----- From: bprice(a)baymoon.com Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2017 9:06 PM To: GILASAILR(a)aol.com ; Stan Susman ; jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org ; Dave Scobie Subject: Wrinkleboat RT-IGCR 2017 !Hola Wrinkleboaters! Looks like the boss is going to allow me to sneak away from work for a few days to go to AZ this year! I've still been dragging my behind on doing the bulkhead work on the M-15 so I'm hoping to find a spot on a boat as crew... I plan to be at LP Friday-Sunday I have my own lifejacket, an old Timex digital watch with 5 minute countdown pre-programed and will make a donation to the Leukemia Foundation during the Leukemia Cup as "Team (your boat name here)" (...might even throw in some drink tickets Saturday night!) If you know of any crew spaces available, Saturday or Sunday or both, please let me know! even if I don't get to sail, I'm looking forward to the trip and seeing you guys! Bernard

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Wrinkleboat Ran-Tan 2017 begins 17 February on Lake Pleasant, AZ
by Dave Scobie 18 Jan '17

18 Jan '17

If you have been thinking about attending it is now time to officially sign up! https://wrinkleboat.wordpress.com/2017/01/10/the-official-registration-page… In addition to the general fun of sailing and fellowship with wrinkleboats this year Harry Pattison, of E/P Sailmakers, will be attending! A great opportunity to have a sailmaker that REALLY knows the wrinkleboats look at your sails. Also attending is Jerry Montgomery (the guy that started it all by having Lyle Hess create the M17 & M23, and then Jerry himself designing the M15, Sage 17, Sage 15 and SageCat). This is a great opportunity to 'talk to the guy' about how to rig, tune and sail your wrinkleboat. Questions about the Ran-Tan? send a note using the link below, or respond to this email. https://wrinkleboat.wordpress.com/contact/ <https://wrinkleboat.wordpress.com/contact/> :: Dave Scobie :: former M15 owner #288 - http://www.freewebs.com/m15-name-scred :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - http://www.m17-375.webs.com :: Sage 17 #1 - AIR BORN - http://sagemarine.us/sage_17.html :: Sage 15 sloop #001 - ASOLARE - http://sagemarine.us/sage_15.html :: SageCat #000 & #002 - SAGECAT - http://sagemarine.us/sagecat.html

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Boom End sheeting
by Wilson Frye 18 Jan '17

18 Jan '17

Hey, all, I am looking for advice on boom sheeting. As you know, the Montgomery 17 boom sheeting is done mid-boom, with a traveler in the floor of the cockpit. I have been thinking about moving the sheet to the boom end to get the sheet out of the middle of the cockpit. I am considering installing a fiddle block on the boom end, with single block with becket on one quarter, and a single block on the other, similar to the Norsea 27 sheeting arrangement. Has anyone made such a change, and if so, how did it work out? Thanks for any comments. Will

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