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Little Breeze M15
by Michael Mann 18 Nov '15

18 Nov '15

Hi, My name is Michael Mann and in 1982, I sailed the Montgomery 15, Little Breeze from CA to Hawaii. I see on the web site that she has been rescued by new owners in Hawaii and I would love to correspond with them. I am currently sailing on a container ship headed for Honolulu and would welcome the chance to make contact. Thanks for any info. Michael Mann

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Newbie's first question
by swwheatley＠comcast.net 09 Dec '13

09 Dec '13

My new-to-me M17 did not come with a motor. It did, however, come with a big honking scissor-type motor mount hanging off the transom. Because it is a 1976, it also has the transom cut-out motor mount. The motor of my dreams is the Tohatsu/Nissan 4 stroke 4hp. It is available in short (15") and long (20") shaft. My question is, will the long shaft work reasonably well if it is mounted in the transom cut-out, or should I plan on using the scissor mount either way? I would also be interested to hear whether the Tohatsu/Nissan 6hp "Sailpro" (25" shaft) works well with the transom cut-out. There are other reasons why I probably would not buy one of those but, if meant getting rid of the scissor mount, I would at least give it some thought. Thanks

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Downhaul system
by Daniel Rich 07 Dec '13

07 Dec '13

Montypals: I am doing some re-rigging of M15 Kestrel. Just received my sails from JudyB and Hyde a few weeks ago. Sadly, the jib is too big! So, it is being remade. Just one of those things. In any event, I am going to set up a 3-1 outhaul per a previous photo supplied by one of you guys. Looks good. But I am grappling with the best way to set up a better downhaul. My current setup is a 2-1 going only through the cunningham. Basically there is an eyestrap on one side of the mast, and the line goes from there up through the cringle, and then down to a jam cleat. Not a very nice setup, and the thing is too high anyway so the purchase is not good. I want to get perhaps 4-1, but don’t want to lead it aft. I am just having a hard time visualizing the thing. A cascading system would work I think, but I just have a hard time understanding the geometry. Furthermore, easy rigging and derigging is a must. I want to use the downhaul instead, since there is a ring on my floating gooseneck for that purpose, and that should work as well or better than the cunningham. I will mount much lower on the mast. Any ideas here?? -- Daniel Rich M15 #208 "Kestrel"

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The website
by Thomas Buzzi 02 Dec '13

02 Dec '13

Hi, I just realized that it has been over a month since I received any emails from the Montgomery site. Am I still on the mailing list? If not, how do I get back on it so I receive the emials? thanks, Tom B

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80/20 Rule or 2014 WICR/Potter Leukemia Cup fundraising
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 24 Nov '13

24 Nov '13

>From Frederic Berg posted on 'Scuttlebutt News'- "Success in growing the sport has to recognize the 80/20 rule. 80% of sailing should be fun recreational without structure or limitations. 20% should be racing. Until clubs in America embrace this fundamental truth, sailing will be in decline." Have you had your 20% of racing recently? We here at Team WrinkleBoat have been sailing at the Leukemia Cup regatta for years now and have an annual ran-tan/'championship race' in conjunction with the Arizona Yacht Club's Birthday Regatta (54th birthday ! !) and Leukemia Cup Regatta. I am asking for your support of the Leukemia Cup either at your local event or if not there then please visit our site for support https://www.leukemiacup.org/pages/az/ayc14/TeamWrinkleBoatFleet 2014 WICR/Potter Invitational Regatta _www.wrinkleboat.webs.com_ (http://www.wrinkleboat.webs.com/) in support of the Leukemia/Lymphoma Society's Leukemia Cup Regatta - If you can't race to support the LLS - Please consider supporting the event at our Fleet webpage : https://www.leukemiacup.org/pages/az/ayc14/TeamWrinkleBoatFleet Team Wrinkleboat Fleet- Sailing Fast to Stop Leukemia - This community has been generous in the past and we all appreciate the help. Thank You for your support! It means a lot to all of the participants and the folk who benefit from LLS research. Thanking You and ALL participants in advance. GO PS - Last year was the first year we did not have the boat 'named' for a L/L patient.

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Montgomery 6-8 for sale
by Thornton Wilkinson 22 Nov '13

22 Nov '13

I have listed my Montgomery 6-8 for sale on the MSOG.org site. It is in very good shape. There is some cosmetic gelcoat repair. I have the rudder for it as well. It is located in the Phoenix, AZ area.

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Re: M_Boats: WICR/Potter Invitational 2014 News
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 18 Nov '13

18 Nov '13

Sorry for the lack of 'formatting' - I cut and flubbed - settings didn't make the electron cyber-warp. Check at the TSBB Montgomery/Potter/Main Page for an easier to read version (well - a little easier !) GO In a message dated 11/17/2013 2:02:10 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, GILASAILR(a)aol.com writes: Here we go ! _www.wrinkleboat.webs.com_ (http://www.wrinkleboat.webs.com) 2 months to the 2014 WICR/Potter Invitational. Link to Arizona Yacht Club - our hosts page for regatta. http://arizonayachtclub.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/2014-BDR-LCR-Welcome- and-Agenda-2013-11-16.pdf Registration is not yet open - but we will spread the news ASAP. Note - New 'Party Format' - now located at the newly remodeled and newly managed Marina restaurant ! Indoors - video of the days racing on a big screen-dinner-bar-Raffle/Auction for Leukemia Cup! Shuttle service from wherever you are onsite to wherever you want to go onsite - phone number will be provided - kinda like FREE taxi service Ramp to parking to Marina to anywhere onsite! -Saves MUCH walking ! Friday Afternoon Plans for Chalk-talk sessions Friday afternoon - Topics include, but not limited to: 'That Pesky Start Sequence Thing' - How do you hit the line on time? Where IS the line?, Can I "barge?" , Can I be going a bit FASTER at the Start signal? What is the 'Start Signal? these questions and more will be answered by Dave Scobie (Sage Marine) at his session ! Let's test his knowledge base with some good questions! Participants will get handout for 'Start Sequence' provided in large type format - tape it to the bulkhead! If you attend this presentation and use the handout - you are almost guaranteed to beat a world famous boat designer with facial hair at the weekends race starts! (really - I almost guarantee results) 'Basics of Getting Around the Race Course' or (don't follow the yellow boat to the LONG mark!) Gary Oberbeck will explain basic tactics to help you get around the course with fewer side excursions. Topics may include -What is the best tactic upwind? Which side of the Lake is better when_____? Should you go low and slow or heat it up on that long downwind leg? Basic covering tactics (you are now in 1st Place - Cover yer *ss!), Is there a favored side to the: Course,Leg.Start/Finish Line? The guy blabbering all this has some local knowledge he will share to help us become faster,better,more efficient sailors, investors, auto mechanics and lovers. --- Just make sure you check the course chart - DO NOT follow yellow/white boat! {;>) Not an impressive line-up for the Speakers you say? No 'heavyweights? - well - Russell,Dean and the boys have other commitments. We ARE working on additional topics/ and some Speaker-types that really know what the hell they are talking about, maybe we'll get lucky. IF YOU HAVE AN IDEA FOR A PRESENTATION -SEND IT TO THE 'CONTACT US' PAGE HERE. We welcome all ideas and would like to know what works for the Fleet. STAY TUNED ! Friday Night in keeping with tradition is WICR/Potter Invitational Wang Dang Doodle at the Wild Horse ! The BEST roadhouse at the Lake area! We meet up a short drive down the track for road food, adult beverages, pool, jukebox and to discuss plans for the ensuing battles on the Lake. This is the place to psych out the competition - or get them drunk so they miss the start in the morning. Please No Wagering (in public). Saturday Evening is Dinner/Leukemia Cup Awards and Auction at the Marina restaurant - Indoors on the water and newly remodeled under new management. Big soiree folks - Dress for Saturday evening should reflect and respect the occasion and gravity of the weekends event! (come as you is!)Please remember this is the 1st Leukemia Cup Regatta of the 2014 calendar - Please help if you desire and can - There will be a page up - link to follow - Whatever awards the Fleet wins will be distributed to the Fleet participants - Hey - go nuts and one of you could be sailing in tropical waters with Gary Jobson! ! or win a charter boat package or.... Please help if you can I will send the link to the donation page when it is up . Sunday Afternoon is lunch and awards presentation at the Ramada followed by WICR/Potter Invitational 2014 awards at WrinkleBoat encampment. Thank You for your attention, send all questions to the 'Contact' link at the web site or directly to gilasailr at a OH L.com Awards will mimic last years presentations for 'Distance Traveled' 'and Size of boat results. Take Care, Have Fun, Go Sailing................ January 17-19th 2014 at Lake Pleasant Arizona GO Countdown to WrinkleBoat Racing - January 17-19th 2014

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Re: M_Boats: Varnish removal
by Mark & Roberta 17 Nov '13

17 Nov '13

Yeah, the original formulation left something to be desired but the 'natural teak' Cetol has given me a very nice finish. The clear gloss topcoat has also produced a lot of compliments. It may indeed be time to give it a try. It certainly holds up much better, with less effort than varnish. Mark bownez(a)juno.com wrote: >Tom, Rick and Mark, > >Thank you much for your replies. I will be going the heat gun/scraper route, and yes, be careful because wood DOES scorch easily! >The M23 rudder is in the sun all summer. I have been doing the bottom paint on the portion that sits in the water with the rudder raised. >I normally use varnish on brightwork that can be removed from the boat (dropboards, rudder, tiller, etc.) But the attached teak (grabrails, trim) get Penofin oil. >I used Cetol years ago as an experiment on my M6.8. I did not like the muddy, dull look. However, some boating friends are using Cetol's updated product on their Island Packets and it does look much better. I think it is a "Light" formulation? >It may be time to try it again, it does seem to hold up better than varnish. > >Later, > >Bones >____________________________________________________________ >Odd Carb-Hormone Trick >1 EASY tip to increase fat-burning, lower blood sugar & decrease fat storage >http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/52877b641917a7b633bdest03vuc >

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WICR/Potter Invitational 2014 News
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 17 Nov '13

17 Nov '13

Here we go ! _www.wrinkleboat.webs.com_ (http://www.wrinkleboat.webs.com) 2 months to the 2014 WICR/Potter Invitational. Link to Arizona Yacht Club - our hosts page for regatta. http://arizonayachtclub.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/2014-BDR-LCR-Welcome- and-Agenda-2013-11-16.pdf Registration is not yet open - but we will spread the news ASAP. Note - New 'Party Format' - now located at the newly remodeled and newly managed Marina restaurant ! Indoors - video of the days racing on a big screen-dinner-bar-Raffle/Auction for Leukemia Cup! Shuttle service from wherever you are onsite to wherever you want to go onsite - phone number will be provided - kinda like FREE taxi service Ramp to parking to Marina to anywhere onsite! -Saves MUCH walking ! Friday Afternoon Plans for Chalk-talk sessions Friday afternoon - Topics include, but not limited to: 'That Pesky Start Sequence Thing' - How do you hit the line on time? Where IS the line?, Can I "barge?" , Can I be going a bit FASTER at the Start signal? What is the 'Start Signal? these questions and more will be answered by Dave Scobie (Sage Marine) at his session ! Let's test his knowledge base with some good questions! Participants will get handout for 'Start Sequence' provided in large type format - tape it to the bulkhead! If you attend this presentation and use the handout - you are almost guaranteed to beat a world famous boat designer with facial hair at the weekends race starts! (really - I almost guarantee results) 'Basics of Getting Around the Race Course' or (don't follow the yellow boat to the LONG mark!) Gary Oberbeck will explain basic tactics to help you get around the course with fewer side excursions. Topics may include -What is the best tactic upwind? Which side of the Lake is better when_____? Should you go low and slow or heat it up on that long downwind leg? Basic covering tactics (you are now in 1st Place - Cover yer *ss!), Is there a favored side to the: Course,Leg.Start/Finish Line? The guy blabbering all this has some local knowledge he will share to help us become faster,better,more efficient sailors, investors, auto mechanics and lovers. --- Just make sure you check the course chart - DO NOT follow yellow/white boat! {;>) Not an impressive line-up for the Speakers you say? No 'heavyweights? - well - Russell,Dean and the boys have other commitments. We ARE working on additional topics/ and some Speaker-types that really know what the hell they are talking about, maybe we'll get lucky. IF YOU HAVE AN IDEA FOR A PRESENTATION -SEND IT TO THE 'CONTACT US' PAGE HERE. We welcome all ideas and would like to know what works for the Fleet. STAY TUNED ! Friday Night in keeping with tradition is WICR/Potter Invitational Wang Dang Doodle at the Wild Horse ! The BEST roadhouse at the Lake area! We meet up a short drive down the track for road food, adult beverages, pool, jukebox and to discuss plans for the ensuing battles on the Lake. This is the place to psych out the competition - or get them drunk so they miss the start in the morning. Please No Wagering (in public). Saturday Evening is Dinner/Leukemia Cup Awards and Auction at the Marina restaurant - Indoors on the water and newly remodeled under new management. Big soiree folks - Dress for Saturday evening should reflect and respect the occasion and gravity of the weekends event! (come as you is!)Please remember this is the 1st Leukemia Cup Regatta of the 2014 calendar - Please help if you desire and can - There will be a page up - link to follow - Whatever awards the Fleet wins will be distributed to the Fleet participants - Hey - go nuts and one of you could be sailing in tropical waters with Gary Jobson! ! or win a charter boat package or.... Please help if you can I will send the link to the donation page when it is up . Sunday Afternoon is lunch and awards presentation at the Ramada followed by WICR/Potter Invitational 2014 awards at WrinkleBoat encampment. Thank You for your attention, send all questions to the 'Contact' link at the web site or directly to gilasailr at a OH L.com Awards will mimic last years presentations for 'Distance Traveled' 'and Size of boat results. Take Care, Have Fun, Go Sailing................ January 17-19th 2014 at Lake Pleasant Arizona GO Countdown to WrinkleBoat Racing - January 17-19th 2014

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Re: M_Boats: Varnish removal
by bownez＠juno.com 16 Nov '13

16 Nov '13

Tom, Rick and Mark, Thank you much for your replies. I will be going the heat gun/scraper route, and yes, be careful because wood DOES scorch easily! The M23 rudder is in the sun all summer. I have been doing the bottom paint on the portion that sits in the water with the rudder raised. I normally use varnish on brightwork that can be removed from the boat (dropboards, rudder, tiller, etc.) But the attached teak (grabrails, trim) get Penofin oil. I used Cetol years ago as an experiment on my M6.8. I did not like the muddy, dull look. However, some boating friends are using Cetol's updated product on their Island Packets and it does look much better. I think it is a "Light" formulation? It may be time to try it again, it does seem to hold up better than varnish. Later, Bones ____________________________________________________________ Odd Carb-Hormone Trick 1 EASY tip to increase fat-burning, lower blood sugar & decrease fat storage http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/52877b641917a7b633bdest03vuc

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