October 2012 - montgomery_boats - mailman.xmission.com

Re: M_Boats: Small Boat Sailing in Sacramento Area
by Neil Dorf 17 Oct '12

17 Oct '12

David, Glad to hear of yet another Montgomery owner in the greater Sacramento area. I sail an M15 that I keep in the garage and my "home port" is Folsom Lake. Fall is a great time to sail there as there are much fewer water skiers and fast powerboats, leaving the lake mostly to sailors and fisherman. And the winds are more likely to be favorable vs. the middle of summer which can be "bob and bake". I generally put in at Browns Ravine, and during low water season, from the Hobie Ramp which stays open longer into the season. I agree with Jerry that Lake Natoma would be a good choice as would Lake Washington. I don't believe there is a ramp at the CSUS Aquatic Center, but just across the cove from there is one inside the State Park entrance (so you still access it from Hazel Avenue off highway 50. To the best of my knowledge, no motors are allowed on Lake Natoma--well at least not gas. If you have a trolling motor maybe. Another couple of places you might consider, if you are willing to drive to the Bay Area, are Richmond Inner Harbor, and Oakland Estuary (launch from Alameda Grand Street public ramp). At both venues you are likely to find some decent wind and plenty of sailing area in protected waters. A smaller lake in Napa Valley, Lake Hennessey, was the site for a Potter Yachter outing this summer. I didn't go but I heard that those that did had a great time. As far as I know, no power allowed and boats only up to 14-15' so a nice mellow lake for a 10' boat. Just check the forecast for wind. It was pretty flat (and hot) the day the Potters went. One of my local lake favorites is Scotts Flat Lake, up above Nevada City. It is a very nice sailing lake with a good ramp, campgrounds, and it is encircled in pine trees. Yet another venue, albeit seasonal, is Woodward Reservoir near Escalon. The Potter Yachters have an annual weekend sailing and campout there and it is a blast. The lake is pretty much drained out by late summer but in season it is an absolute kick to sail there...always great wind (sometimes too much when trying to pitch a tent). I have been trying (seemingly in vain) to somewhat organize the Mboat sailors in the Sac area and it has been like herding cats (no pun since we all have monohulls) but I will keep your email on my list of locals in case you want to be notified when any of us are headed out somewhere for a day sail. Fair winds, Neil Dorf 1985 M15 "TwoCan" Roseville Sent from my HTC on the Now Network from Sprint! ----- Reply message ----- From: "David Moore" <ayakomoore(a)aol.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Cc: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: M_Boats: Small Boat Sailing in Sacramento Area Date: Wed, Oct 17, 2012 8:54 am Thank you! At Natoma do you use Negro Bar or the Sac State Aquatic Center to launch? Dave M Sent from my iPhone On Oct 17, 2012, at 8:12 AM, "jerry montgomery" <jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org> wrote: > Natoma would probably be best; no waves and probably as much wind as Folsom. Lake Wash would be fine and usually has a little more wind. You might have to join the Lake Washington YC in order to launch, but it doesn't cost much and from what I've seen a nice bunch. I'd try them both. Living at Davis, Beryessa wouldn't be too far, but I've never sailed there. > > jerry > ----- Original Message ----- From: <ayakomoore(a)aol.com> > To: <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 7:52 AM > Subject: M_Boats: Small Boat Sailing in Sacramento Area > > > > Hello Everyone, > > I saw some postings from folks in the Sacramento area a while back about sailing at Lake Folsom. I live in Davis and want to sail my 10 foot Montgomery and am wondering about my nearby options, including Lake Berryessa, Lake Folsom and Lake Natoma, Lake Washington, etc. Any suggestions on pluses and minuses would be greatly appreciated. > > Best, > > Dave Moore > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Hughston, Larry@DGS <Larry.Hughston(a)dgs.ca.gov> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Sent: Tue, Apr 10, 2012 7:56 am > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Folsom Lake > > > Neil, my gauge is "are the boat docks still full at Brown's Ravine" for knowing > if enough water is in Folsom Lake. Yes, I plan on sailing this Spring and > Summer. > Old 189 will be out there......pray for wind...Larry > > -----Original Message----- > From: montgomery_boats-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] > On Behalf Of ndorf(a)surfbest.net > Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 6:25 PM > To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > Subject: M_Boats: Folsom Lake > > Larry, > > will I be spotting old 189 out on Folsom Lake this year? > > Hope so.... > > Already got Bruce King from Fair Oaks to come out and sail with his > M15 last summer... > > A fleet of three M15s in our backyard reservoir would be very cool. > > Better still, Karsten, if you're lurking out there...your boat would > make four! > > Goshawk would bring it up to 5... > > Hmmmm maybe we can have our own "Wrinkle Boat Ran Tan" > > (sorry GO your gig would always still the "original" :-) > > OMG now all we need is alot more water in the lake... > > -Neil > > > > > > > > -- > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. > SPAMfighter has removed 7315 of my spam emails to date. > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len > > Do you have a slow PC? 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Re: M_Boats: Anchoring
by Larry E Yake 17 Oct '12

17 Oct '12

The subject of anchoring has been covered pretty well, but I would like to add one comment. Retrieval from the stern is fine when things are quiet and calm, but if things start to get dicey in your anchorage, trying to pull in your anchor from the cockpit while your boat is laying broadside or quartering stern-to in the wind and waves is not good. Likewise, trying to haul it in from a bouncing foredeck, hunched over with an aching back and trying to hold on while pulling up the rode while your motor is cavitating is not too good either. I've come up with a technique that has worked well in these conditions. So well, in fact, that I use it all the time. On CornDog, my M17, the anchor lives in a large tupperware type tub in the port cockpit locker. The anchor is deployed over the side while traveling forward, cleated off on the stern, and then walked forward and cleated to the bow. The tub and extra rode stays in the locker, with the tail of the rode running from the bow cleat back along the toe rail, over the coaming, and under a corner of the locker lid. To raise the anchor, I take a wrap around the port winch with the tail of the rode and cleat it off. Then I go forward, uncleat the rode from the bow cleat and put it in a snatch block hung from the bow pulpit. The boat is now still anchored facing forward into the waves, but the line can be handled from the cockpit. Pulling it up is simply a matter of pulling on the rode coming from the winch and letting it tail naturally into the tub in the open locker right below. The boat stays straight and in control, you're hoisting from a position better for your back, and you're handy to the motor controls. If your anchor is hung up, you're already on the winch and can crank with a winch handle if needed. Obviously, you can only raise the anchor until your chain gets to the snatch block. For this reason, I only use 10 feet of chain. By the time the chain gets to the snatch block the anchor is off the bottom. If things are calm I'll walk forward, release it from the snatch block, let it swing back to the cockpit, and finish the retrieve. If things are still dicey or crowded, I'll let the anchor and chain dangle from the bow and motor out to where there is more room and depth to release it from the bow. To compensate for the shorter chain, if I'm worried about my anchor holding, I'll slide and 10 lb. mushroom anchor down the rode on a carabiner. Works the same as extra chain to keep the pull horizontal on the anchor itself. Larry Yake M17 CornDog "In a powerboat you get there sooner, in a sailboat you're already there."

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by JERRY G MAY 17 Oct '12

17 Oct '12

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M 6-8
by Bill Wickett 13 Oct '12

13 Oct '12

Has been a relatively quiet list lately. Hope everyone is getting lots of stick time out on the water. Can any list members comment on the "rowability" of the Montgomery 6-8? We have an inflatable now, but like the idea of a hard dinghy. Would it load upside down into the cockpit for trailering? Thanks in advance. Bill Wickett Makin' Time M17 #622

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Re: M_Boats: Aluminum toe rail
by Klaas 13 Oct '12

13 Oct '12

Thanks Doug I'll take a look at Bellinghams Craigslist Klaas Hi Klaas, There is a sailboat boneyard guy down in Bellingham. They advertise on Craigslist. If you do a search for sailboat parts you should be able to find it. Cheers, Doug

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Aluminum toe rail
by jnschum 12 Oct '12

12 Oct '12

There is a place in Seattle called Second Wave that is also good.

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Re: M_Boats: Mounting a Solar Charger on an M-17
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 12 Oct '12

12 Oct '12

PS - I have had MUCH better performance with the panel and longevity with batteries using a regulator/controller - NFIW but I have been 100% satisfied with this unit - GO SunGuard Charge Controller Made by MorningStar Model: SG-4

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Re: M_Boats: Mounting a Solar Charger on an M-17
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 12 Oct '12

12 Oct '12

You might try a RAM ball mount off the transom - easy to adjust for max exposure - removable and out of the way. Check GPS City they are a big seller of RAM mounts. I have used the previous version of this panel (Solarex MSX10 L) it appears BP is the owner of the company now -- my current one is 12 years old on a 5 year warranty! - battery stays at 100% charge, we are able to walk on it sit on panel etc. - Not permanently mounted- sits on deck forward of companionway hatch port side. (have one left in box unused in garage to replace when needed) there is an aftermarket regulator attached at the panel leads - don't remember the type right offhand. _http://shop.solardirect.com/product_info.php?cPath=23_161_165_194_259&produ cts_id=1178_ (http://shop.solardirect.com/product_info.php?cPath=23_161_165_194_259&produ…) Good luck GO

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Aluminum toe rail
by Klaas 12 Oct '12

12 Oct '12

Hi I've been thinking of replaceing the rear teak toe rail om my M15 . Has anyone else don this and if so where did the get the rail . Right now all I've been able to find is West Marine rail at 1k for 35 ft . Does anyone know of a boat wrecker yard in the north west that might have something , I'm in Van. B.C. Thanks for any info you can give KLaas

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Re: M_Boats: Video Promo - Havasu Pocket Cruisers Convention 2013
by bownez＠juno.com 11 Oct '12

11 Oct '12

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