March 2010 - montgomery_boats - mailman.xmission.com

Little Breeze M15
by Michael Mann 18 Nov '15

18 Nov '15

Hi, My name is Michael Mann and in 1982, I sailed the Montgomery 15, Little Breeze from CA to Hawaii. I see on the web site that she has been rescued by new owners in Hawaii and I would love to correspond with them. I am currently sailing on a container ship headed for Honolulu and would welcome the chance to make contact. Thanks for any info. Michael Mann

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Montgomery Sailboats are in high demand
by Bob Eeg 15 Jul '13

15 Jul '13

And are built with top-notch quality. There is nothing in the market place faster, better built and as good looking as a Montgomery Sailboat. I don't run a factory; I run a very small boatshop. I built to order on a boat by boat basis. I do a lot of custom work when asked. Bronze ports, Stainless ports, extra ballast, Custom electrical systems, Idasailor rudders, anchoring packages..etc. This work is labor intensive. Quality takes time. I have 3 employees. These people are highly experienced in Laminating, construction, assembly and finish. Woodworking and other skills result in a absolutely beautiful sailing vessel. I use the best sails the best rigging, the best custom stainless fasteners..and yes....(laughing) the best cushions. This last 15 months have been EXTREMELY busy; hiring new help was impossible because all the good people are gone. We had a tremendous BACKLOG and we caught a break only when Pacific Seacraft employees (let go) began filtering into our shop looking for work. We did add some additional crew in the Laminating Shop and because of that we are caught up. Pacific Seacrafts Bankruptcy was good for us. Bad for the dozens of good people who are out of work. The FIRST question of anyone buying a new boat should be 'How is the construction quality'? First and foremost that is the most important issue. I can say that everyone has experienced and will continue to experience a BACKLOG of orders; especially if the boat is as popular as a Montgomery Sailboat. When we had an 8 month backlog and I actually turned down 2 M_17 orders so we could catch our breath. It is impossible to work any harder or any faster. Now that were caught up we can get back to our normal 50-70 days (depending on model and options). Also custom work really adds to the production time. One beautiful M_17 we did we cut the V berth out of and installed an oval bulkhead, custom shelves and inline potti area; with 4 bronze ports she is an amazing boat, but custom work takes time. Expect delays if you go radical on the interior. (I think BONES has a photo of that one...) We are really one of the only builders that entertain changes and options to satisfy the customer. This new Passagemaker M_17 were building (and installing a windvane on tomorrow) is going to be amazing. Other actual boat factories that produce boats for DEALERS (that Tod mentioned) like Precision and Compac are built on Factory Production lines for a large Dealership Network. Dealers who have these boats in stock can supply them right away. But ask for major changes on a future production boat and the wait will be many months. International Marine builds boats faster with more employees but those boats are piss poor sailers (upwind) and many arrive with a list of problems that are pathetic. That's not me. So try not to focus on the TIME factor. We can only go so fast. Hiring additional help is not an option because by the time you train someone the season gets slow and you have to lay them off. I can't do that. I have people that have been with me for 20 years; I keep us small and efficient on purpose. So be surprised if we hit the delivery time; which we do quite often. Be a little disappointed when we miss it; but get over it when you see your boat. Dozens of you know me; you've arrived to see me rig your boat, pack you up and shake your hand. (Heck...Gary Hyde even brought me a bottle of wine..!..Thanks Gary.!) One man bought a new M_15 from us and a new M_17 a year later.! The C word...Cushions. I inspect everyboat before it leaves for home. Scott's boat was leaving for the Bay Area early Friday morning; I was at the boatshop at 10:30 PM Thursday night, sleeping at the picnic table just inside the door, waiting for the cushion guy to arrive with the (late) promised cushions. He drove up, woke me up and I watched as he stacked them on the deck. We left. My man arrived at 3AM and hooked up the boat and slid the cushions inside the boat. I should have loaded them myself then I would have noticed they looked good but didn't have the required 'Squeeze' factor. Let's move on, shall we....? Fair winds Bob Eeg (949) 489-8227 Boat Builder

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Re: M_Boats: racing my M23
by Larry E Yake 02 Apr '11

02 Apr '11

>So when is the next San Juan trip? Annual? Bi-annual? >Jeff Probably semi-annual. Larry

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Mast Rake Forestay
by Hughston, Larry 16 Jun '10

16 Jun '10

Bob. I had the shrouds shortened in order to rake the mast 8 to 10 inches. Now the bow line adjuster is too short. Do I go with a longer pinned adjuster or is there a short t-buckle I can use? The adjuster on now is a shorty, about 5 inches. The adjuster is about 3 inches too short. ----Thanks Bob. -----Larry Hughston hull no. 189 / M-15 in Sacramento

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M15 for sale in Nor Cal on Craigslist
by George Morrison 26 Apr '10

26 Apr '10

I already own a M15, so I can't use another. But this sure sounds like a good deal/quick sale! Plus it's very rare to see any M-Boats for sale! http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/boa/1042037932.html George "M" M15 319 San Jose, CA

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shallow water
by Tom Jenkins 04 Apr '10

04 Apr '10

Folks, As an ex-Potter sailor with a 17, I just can't seem to give up the desire to pull into a sandy or muddy beach and jump off for a stroll. I hate to bring this up again, but I am wondering if sand or mud will inevitably jam the centerboard if I come in until the keel touches. Anybody actually tried this, and what happened? Bob has a picture of two 15s on his Montgomery website doing just this, but I don't know how different the keel and centerboard arrangements are. Finally, if the centerboard should jam with some debris, is there any way to pull or push it down without swimming upside down with a pry bar? Thanks, Tom Jenkins M17 #626 Scintilla

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Re: M_Boats: Plexiglass / Lexan
by Neil Dorf 31 Mar '10

31 Mar '10

Jerry, Thanks for the reply. Hope yourTucson trip was enjoyable. Can the Lexan cutting be done with a dremmel tool and the appropriate disc? -----Original Message----- From: jerry <jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org> Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 2:48 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Plexiglass / Lexan They are undercut at 45 degrees, which we did on a router. If you have and are familiar with routers, get a carbide 45 degree bit and carefully make a pattern off the old one. I don't think you could cut one with a bandsaw; it would chip and fuzz up too much.. Have fun! jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: <ndorf(a)surfbest.net> To: <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 12:42 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Plexiglass / Lexan >I would like to redo my M15 port lights with new Lexan and was > thinking I could use the existing ones as a template for the new > ones. But I can't tell for sure until I remove them if they would > actually lay flat or are slightly concave. > > It looks like what's entailed is removing all the screws and I > suppose there is some silicone caulking / adhesive sealant > underneath... > > > Anyone know, or attempted this? > > thanks, Neil [The entire original message is not included]

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Re: M_Boats: Plexiglass / Lexan
by ndorf＠surfbest.net 30 Mar '10

30 Mar '10

Thanks all, I think I'll try the toothpaste first. If nothing else my port lights will smell better :-)

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Trailer boarding ladder photo
by Bob From California 30 Mar '10

30 Mar '10

Randy has one of my new M_17s and just posted a neat photo on Trailersailor.com on his new Boarding Ladder that is mounted on his Pacific Trailer. Here is the Link: http://bbs.trailersailor.com/forums/montgomery/index.cgi/read/1188 Fair winds, Bob. www.montgomeryboats.com (949) 489-8227

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Re: M_Boats: Plexiglass / Lexan
by ndorf＠surfbest.net 30 Mar '10

30 Mar '10

Does anyone know of a paste / polish / cleaner that is actually safe and effective to use on the Montgomery portlights for removing spots and fine scratches? Or is that a pipe dream?

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