May 2008 - montgomery_boats - mailman.xmission.com

Montgomery Sailboats are in high demand
by Bob Eeg 15 Jul '13

15 Jul '13

And are built with top-notch quality. There is nothing in the market place faster, better built and as good looking as a Montgomery Sailboat. I don't run a factory; I run a very small boatshop. I built to order on a boat by boat basis. I do a lot of custom work when asked. Bronze ports, Stainless ports, extra ballast, Custom electrical systems, Idasailor rudders, anchoring packages..etc. This work is labor intensive. Quality takes time. I have 3 employees. These people are highly experienced in Laminating, construction, assembly and finish. Woodworking and other skills result in a absolutely beautiful sailing vessel. I use the best sails the best rigging, the best custom stainless fasteners..and yes....(laughing) the best cushions. This last 15 months have been EXTREMELY busy; hiring new help was impossible because all the good people are gone. We had a tremendous BACKLOG and we caught a break only when Pacific Seacraft employees (let go) began filtering into our shop looking for work. We did add some additional crew in the Laminating Shop and because of that we are caught up. Pacific Seacrafts Bankruptcy was good for us. Bad for the dozens of good people who are out of work. The FIRST question of anyone buying a new boat should be 'How is the construction quality'? First and foremost that is the most important issue. I can say that everyone has experienced and will continue to experience a BACKLOG of orders; especially if the boat is as popular as a Montgomery Sailboat. When we had an 8 month backlog and I actually turned down 2 M_17 orders so we could catch our breath. It is impossible to work any harder or any faster. Now that were caught up we can get back to our normal 50-70 days (depending on model and options). Also custom work really adds to the production time. One beautiful M_17 we did we cut the V berth out of and installed an oval bulkhead, custom shelves and inline potti area; with 4 bronze ports she is an amazing boat, but custom work takes time. Expect delays if you go radical on the interior. (I think BONES has a photo of that one...) We are really one of the only builders that entertain changes and options to satisfy the customer. This new Passagemaker M_17 were building (and installing a windvane on tomorrow) is going to be amazing. Other actual boat factories that produce boats for DEALERS (that Tod mentioned) like Precision and Compac are built on Factory Production lines for a large Dealership Network. Dealers who have these boats in stock can supply them right away. But ask for major changes on a future production boat and the wait will be many months. International Marine builds boats faster with more employees but those boats are piss poor sailers (upwind) and many arrive with a list of problems that are pathetic. That's not me. So try not to focus on the TIME factor. We can only go so fast. Hiring additional help is not an option because by the time you train someone the season gets slow and you have to lay them off. I can't do that. I have people that have been with me for 20 years; I keep us small and efficient on purpose. So be surprised if we hit the delivery time; which we do quite often. Be a little disappointed when we miss it; but get over it when you see your boat. Dozens of you know me; you've arrived to see me rig your boat, pack you up and shake your hand. (Heck...Gary Hyde even brought me a bottle of wine..!..Thanks Gary.!) One man bought a new M_15 from us and a new M_17 a year later.! The C word...Cushions. I inspect everyboat before it leaves for home. Scott's boat was leaving for the Bay Area early Friday morning; I was at the boatshop at 10:30 PM Thursday night, sleeping at the picnic table just inside the door, waiting for the cushion guy to arrive with the (late) promised cushions. He drove up, woke me up and I watched as he stacked them on the deck. We left. My man arrived at 3AM and hooked up the boat and slid the cushions inside the boat. I should have loaded them myself then I would have noticed they looked good but didn't have the required 'Squeeze' factor. Let's move on, shall we....? Fair winds Bob Eeg (949) 489-8227 Boat Builder

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Don't forget to sign up in the Owners Regisrty
by Nebwest2＠aol.com 03 Jun '08

03 Jun '08

The new MSOG Owners Registry is up and running. So far around 35 boats are registered with more being added every day. Sign up is free through Yahoo groups. Once you join you will be able to organize your view of the registry by whatever criteria you want, (hull #, owners name, boat name, state, etc). The website is _http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Montyowners/_ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Montyowners/) Many of the boats have web links listed to locations of the web where you can view photos of them. There is also a "links" section to web links specific to Montgomery Sailboats. Let's see how many boats we can get listed! Feel free to email me with any questions or comments @ _nebwest2(a)aol.com_ (mailto:nebwest2@aol.com) Enjoy Sean M23 "Dauntless" _www.havasumontgomerys.piczo.com_ (http://www.havasumontgomerys.piczo.com) **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4&?NCID=aolfod00030000000002)

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Re: M_Boats: Sail slugs
by John R. Butler 01 Jun '08

01 Jun '08

I have sailed M-15s with bolt ropes & slugs, (also the very old Cape Cod Catboat with mast hoops, my much loved "The Old Cat," check my link to her in my address below) and MUCH prefer slugs. To stop jamming in the track, I spray the slugs with a good lube most every time I sail. And my very simple solution to keep them from falling out: run a long cotter key at the lowest point you want them down. (I have fed a few stops to Davy Jones, too.) Holes further up allows me to stop the boom and furled sail higher for standing under the boom when cruising along with my built-in electric drive in a calm, or going slowly into a new cove. No, my e-mail address is not salacious, it just refers to my last sailboat, "The Old Cat." Check her out at <http://www.unicorn- systems.com/theoldcat.htm> ...

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Re: M_Boats: First sail finally!
by Danelle Landis 01 Jun '08

01 Jun '08

Due to my typing fingers being more alert than my brain last night, I asked Tod if BuscaBrisas had been trailered down the Bella Coola hill... BuscaBrisas was sailed *to* Bella Coola, not *from* there! Was Bella Coola the original destination, or did they simply become too enchanted by the scenery to go farther north? Thanks to everyone sharing their experiences with slugs, boltropes, and just the mechanics of handling the mainsail. It had never occurred to me to stand in the cabin to handle the sail. I'm sure hoping that ridiculously expensive pre-feeder makes a big difference. I'll send a report here. And sailing the little boat vs the big boats: I read with interest, Tim's thoughts on sailing different sizes, and am glad I'm not just imagining things... I have really enjoyed the closeness to the wind, the water, the responsiveness of the boat to conditions, and the maneuverability of the M17. Doesn't take a gale force wind to feel like you've had some excitement! Danelle "Ceto" M17 #378 Ketchikan, AK

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Re: M_Boats: bolt rope and sail slugs
by Wcpritchett＠aol.com 31 May '08

31 May '08

Slugs for me too. If they hang up or snag it's usually corrected by changing the slug size. Lubrication isn't necessary on most installations either. Slugs cost about $2.50 each and are seized directly to the bolt rope at 18"-24" spacing...no grommets, shackles or extra reinforcing needed. Davis makes a slug stop that retails for $10. Conversion takes about 30-45 minutes. It's the only way to go in my opinion. Bill in Fl **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4&?NCID=aolfod00030000000002)

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bolt rope and sail slugs
by Flickasf＠aol.com 31 May '08

31 May '08

I added sail slugs to my main. It works great for me because it allows me to do the following: 1. I can lower my main and flake it on the boom easily 2. I can raise and lower the main easily. Bert Felton M15, #365 Zephyr ************** Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4&?NCID=aolfod00030000000002)

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M17 bimini photos
by Gary M Hyde 30 May '08

30 May '08

For those interested, here is my M17 bimini gallery. http://gallery.mac.com/gmhyde1#100120 --Gary Hyde 2005 M17 sailboat #637 'Hydeaway 2' We can't change the wind, but we can trim our sails. Sailing is like "African Queening" thru life.

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Re: M_Boats: Mainsail pre-feeder -Suppliers links
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 30 May '08

30 May '08

Defender, and some others I have used, good service form all. Mauri Pro _http://mauriprosailing.com/index.html_ (http://mauriprosailing.com/index.html) , Annapolis Performance Sailing _http://www.apsltd.com/home.asp_ (http://www.apsltd.com/home.asp) Sailing Services _http://www.sailingservices.com/_ (http://www.sailingservices.com/) Jamestown Distributors _http://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/main.do_ (http://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/main.do) Fasta Craft _http://www.fastacraft.com/index.html_ (http://www.fastacraft.com/index.html) oh... these are just too fun! The Maestro or is that Il Mostro? _http://www.jerrymontgomery.org/_ (http://www.jerrymontgomery.org/) North Star Marine (on eBay) _http://stores.ebay.com/North-Star-Marine-Supplies_ (http://stores.ebay.com/North-Star-Marine-Supplies) pyacht.com _http://www.pyacht.com/online-store/scstore/shophome.html_ (http://www.pyacht.com/online-store/scstore/shophome.html) Layline _http://www.layline.com/_ (http://www.layline.com/) Ballenger Spars _http://www.ballengerspars.com/_ (http://www.ballengerspars.com/) Team One Newport _http://www.team1newport.com/_ (http://www.team1newport.com/) Feather Canoes _http://www.feathercanoes.com/index.html_ (http://www.feathercanoes.com/index.html) build one next winter project great boats good people! I have no dealings with these guys - but a fun sites! LiveSailDie! _http://livesaildie.com/_ (http://livesaildie.com/) Garry Hoyt _http://www.garryhoyt.com/index.html_ (http://www.garryhoyt.com/index.html) Waterkeeper Alliance _http://www.waterkeeper.org/_ (http://www.waterkeeper.org/) Tracker Marine eBay overstocks - CHEAP _http://stores.ebay.com/TRACKER-MARINE-GROUP_ (http://stores.ebay.com/TRACKER-MARINE-GROUP) Use these sites to 'burn off' that extra time you have laying around! GO. LB/GF! M-17 # 316a 'that ain't bad gelcoat -it's "patina"! Team Geezer Racing.....Old and in the Way Arizona Sailing Squadron **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4&?NCID=aolfod00030000000002)

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Re: M_Boats: Bella Coola
by John R. Butler 30 May '08

30 May '08

True story about road the residents built! Google bellacoola and scroll down. John R. Butler, on the beach six more long weeks :( theoldcat(a)cox.net

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Re: M_Boats: Mainsail pre-feeder
by John R. Butler 30 May '08

30 May '08

West Marine is a fine source, they have plenty of my bucks, but I always check Defender < www.defender.com > first, usually cheaper, just as dependable. If not listed, email < custserv(a)defender.com > with all available info. I have found Special Orders are often cheaper, too. John R. Butler, still beached theoldcat(a)cox.net

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