"shoot first ask questions later" I suppose that is a good way to put it.and he has yet to apologize for a host of insults but My question was if Ivan did not seem to mind why would Stefan put up such a fuss? he reply was "you would not need one whole hand to count the things Ivan gave a shit about" So his insults are not just limited to the fans. It would appear that even his family suffers from his actions so maybe He needs some help dealing with some deep issues. I was not here in the begininging of the bootlegs controversy I was told he shut down the free stuff but if I recall those boots were getting quite expensive. I don't know! that much about that event.however, I did see Tom Norman's Ivan fan video and he ( Ivan)seems to be fine with the boots! Even proud!The Cyboard is totaly ran by Stefan and if he doesn't like what you say you are banned. and I am am the first to say I have been banned for life. Oh well It won't be long before he drives away the rest of his fans! Lord Hasenpfeffer <mykec@ionet.net> wrote:I suppose Stefan would consider as "hate" my disdain for the callous "shoot first, ask questions later" approach he chose to employ when approaching his former most ardent fans in response to the 7 or so homespun CD-Rs that were being produced and distributed amongst the members of this list 5-6 years ago. His actions were completely unnecessary and he has still not apologized for being so rude. This is not a question of hate, it's a simple matter of avoidance. I hope everyone likes the new CD. I still don't have it. If I never hear it, I'll never cultivate a desire for outtakes and live renditions 15 years from now. Myke -- -================================- Windows...It's rebootylicious!!! -================================- _______________________________________________ Men-Without-Hats mailing list Men-Without-Hats@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/men-without-hats --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.