Good Morning Fezetorial, First let me say that you don't owe me any apologies whatsoever! It was not your fault that Stefan came after me. He just needed a victim and I was handy. I did have some part in making sure your letter was re-posted at least twice. I had saved it in my yahoo notebook for future entertainment! LOL When I re-posted it Stefan was able to ban my ip address, but also went a step further to say that I was Ivan Fan and he had proof because of my ip. And If any of you know Stefan,You also know there is no way to explain anything to him. He has his feeble mind made up and he will never apologize eventhough you have come forward, Which by the way I commend you! That had to be hard to do! Thank You so much . Please know that you are not responsible for the cyboards closing. I remember the posts from that day and to say that Stefan was "rude" is putting it very mildly!! He was down right evil. And all over one man's opinion. I also read Homsanschapo post in the review theard and I thought that he was giving his honest reaction to the NHBTP cd and he bent over backwards trying to explain to Stefan that he was not personaly attacking MWH or their music. I am sorry if I am going over things that happened yesterday and the day before but I have had a lot of email with fans asking what happened. I am trying to say Ivan Fan did not do anything wrong. He (you) only took as much as he could take and decided to "tell it like it is" and for the most part I agree with the things you said in the letter to him. He has managed to insult everyone on that cyboard at least once. Now that you have emailed Stefan and confessed that it was you and not me that composed that letter It will be interesting to see if he emails me with an apology!! HA, HA, HA....I won't hold my breath....so in closing Feze.....You are not the Anti-Christ......Hell you're my hero!! I was sick and tired of being cussed at and put down on a daily basis...And one more thing If you cringe at your letter to Stefan You should see the angry evil exchange I had with him when he was telling me I was a lier and he knew I was "Ivan Fan"...So cheer up don't blame yourself for the board closing It was almost dead anyway And I am sure Stefan will miss all the power and will open the board back up....in the meantime feel free to express your feelings here or on the men without hats yahoo group with out the worry of being verbally abused!!......LOL Peace, Teal aka, tealmorganna, katteal, katherine Fezetorial@aol.com wrote: Hello list, I am the infamous Ivan Fan. I just joined the list (although I was here under a different email address a few years ago) and was a lurker on the MWH board. First my deep apologies to katteal123@yahoo.com as I didnt realize she would be accused of something she didnt do. Although I was registered as a guest, I did list this email address although I guess it's hard to verify now. Also, my apologies to anyone that enjoyed the MWH board if it was indeed my post that led to the board's closing. I kind of cringe when I look at some of the comments I made in my post, but please understand I only made those comments after Stefan ripped apart a fan whose only offense was making an honest opinion about the new album. To act so rude to a person that has looked up to you and supported you for many years is unacceptable in my book, so I thought it was time for Stefan to finally be put in his place. If this was one incident (hey, we all have our bad days) I could maybe understand it, but Stefan has always come across to me as an extremely rude and arrogant person and that post just sent me over the edge. I know I will now be seen as the anti-Christ by some now and I understand that. After all, it is only natural to be defensive about your idols. However, when this idol rips apart the people that support him then I find that indefensible. So once again, my apologies if it was indeed my post that led to the closing of the board. I have sent an email to the MWH site stating I would never post there again if it would mean that the board can be opened up again. Ivan Fan _______________________________________________ Men-Without-Hats mailing list Men-Without-Hats@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/men-without-hats --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month!