Re: [math-fun] But officer, they're just a little underinflated
On 2013-11-16 04:26, Fred Lunnon wrote:
CDF player 245 Mb, ~10 mins to download (doesn't inform of progress), 845 Mb on disc. Message "failed to install properly" (Safari under Mac OSX).
Ouch.
Conclusion: U/S. WFL
= Ulfram/Sux? Since the whole subtext is presumably Mathematica marketing, I doubt Wolfram is knowingly restricting cdf players to the US. Anyone else have any luck? It could be great if this worked. Especially with writing such a small file.
On 11/16/13, Bill Gosper <billgosper@gmail.com> wrote:
You take a right turn a bit fast and get some tire squeal a) mostly from the left b) mostly from the right c) about equally from all four. --rwg
I expected a), and yesterday was startled by b), prompting the veridical suspicion my right tires were underinflated.
PS, Adobe reader is *still* trying to write that little 78.8MB .nb. I think Mma is telling me I'm being an idiot. Instead of stupid pdfs and gif vines, I should be writing, e.g., http://gosper.org/trilbertloopsedgescorners.cdf and whoever wants to actually manipulate the graphics can download http://www.wolfram.com/cdf-player/ . Only I worry that this cdf, instead of being 300 times larger than its notebook, is 7 times smaller. When I try to view it by downloading my own cdf player, I'm told that I already have the latest version--Mathematica 9.0.1. So perhaps a few of you w/o Mathematica who feel like downloading Wolfram's player can tell me if the three Graphics3Ds are mouse tumblable. They are in my "cdf previewer", but the doc says all interactivity must use Manipulate. --rwg On 2013-11-16 06:36, Henry Baker wrote: Have you ever considered using non-Adobe pdf readers?
I gave up on Adobe readers when they grew beyond 100MB & incorporated all kinds of security holes & builtin spyware.
SumatraPDF.exe is only 5.15MB.
Ghostscript.exe is 13.5MB; a little slower, but more flexible.
I've heard that some people use Foxit, which is about the same size as Sumatra.
Presumably, Adobe's mistake in this case is to use an O(n^2) or worse (e.g. bubblesort) algorithm while trying to deflate Mathematica's 300fold overinflation. Does any of this other PDFware even attempt this? Apple's preview just took many minutes to further inflate from 78.8 to 160.4 MB!!
Why don't you output "SVG" (Scalable Vector Graphics) format?
I believe that SVG now has native support in almost all browsers, including HTML5.
Sounds tryworthy, if the displayed text is selectable.
For 3D stuff, "STL" format is very popular, but I don't know if there are any STL plugins for browsers yet.
STL is perhaps the only pathway from Mathematica 3D polygons to NeilBs 3Dprinterware. Mma's exporter uses an atrociously inefficient and illegal triangulator that sorely tests Neil's patience and skill.
At 10:49 PM 11/15/2013, Bill Gosper wrote:
PS, Adobe reader is *still* trying to write that little 78.8MB .nb.
--rwg
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