[math-fun] paper still not free after 136 years
Dear Math Fun, This paper J. D. H. Dickson, <a href=" http://plms.oxfordjournals.org/content/s1-10/1/120.extract">Discussion of two double series arising from the number of terms in determinants of certain forms</a>, Proc. London Math. Soc., 10 (1879), 120-122. has some nice sequences in it. I HAVE a photocopy, which I made myself about 45 years ago, but I was hoping that by now it would be freely available on the web, so I could put a link to a free copy into sequence https://oeis.org/A047920 and many others that the paper contains. Fat chance - Oxford Univ. Press will rent it to me for one day for $39.00. No doubt I am naive, but I find this very annoying. It was published by the London Mathematical Society in 1879. Best regards Neil Neil J. A. Sloane, President, OEIS Foundation. 11 South Adelaide Avenue, Highland Park, NJ 08904, USA. Also Visiting Scientist, Math. Dept., Rutgers University, Piscataway, NJ. Phone: 732 828 6098; home page: http://NeilSloane.com Email: njasloane@gmail.com
In a similar vein, I have no access to most research journals, including even the American Mathematical Monthly going back to 1923. —Dan
On Oct 21, 2015, at 9:02 PM, Neil Sloane <njasloane@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Math Fun, This paper J. D. H. Dickson, <a href=" http://plms.oxfordjournals.org/content/s1-10/1/120.extract">Discussion of two double series arising from the number of terms in determinants of certain forms</a>, Proc. London Math. Soc., 10 (1879), 120-122. has some nice sequences in it. I HAVE a photocopy, which I made myself about 45 years ago, but I was hoping that by now it would be freely available on the web, so I could put a link to a free copy into sequence https://oeis.org/A047920 and many others that the paper contains.
Fat chance - Oxford Univ. Press will rent it to me for one day for $39.00.
No doubt I am naive, but I find this very annoying. It was published by the London Mathematical Society in 1879.
Best regards Neil
Neil J. A. Sloane, President, OEIS Foundation. 11 South Adelaide Avenue, Highland Park, NJ 08904, USA. Also Visiting Scientist, Math. Dept., Rutgers University, Piscataway, NJ. Phone: 732 828 6098; home page: http://NeilSloane.com Email: njasloane@gmail.com
A perfect request for Google's book scanning project: take a look at https://books.google.com/books?id=yYjxAAAAMAAJ&dq=Proceedings%20of%20the%20L... or https://goo.gl/3DZxi1 for short. As Dave points out, this work is out of copyright, so last week's appeals court ruling that scanning is fair use is irrelevant in this case: You are entirely welcome to put a scan of your copy up, it's just that Google already did it for you. --Michael On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 12:54 AM, Dan Asimov <dasimov@earthlink.net> wrote:
In a similar vein, I have no access to most research journals, including even the American Mathematical Monthly going back to 1923.
—Dan
On Oct 21, 2015, at 9:02 PM, Neil Sloane <njasloane@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Math Fun, This paper J. D. H. Dickson, <a href=" http://plms.oxfordjournals.org/content/s1-10/1/120.extract">Discussion of two double series arising from the number of terms in determinants of certain forms</a>, Proc. London Math. Soc., 10 (1879), 120-122. has some nice sequences in it. I HAVE a photocopy, which I made myself about 45 years ago, but I was hoping that by now it would be freely available on the web, so I could put a link to a free copy into sequence https://oeis.org/A047920 and many others that the paper contains.
Fat chance - Oxford Univ. Press will rent it to me for one day for $39.00.
No doubt I am naive, but I find this very annoying. It was published by the London Mathematical Society in 1879.
Best regards Neil
Neil J. A. Sloane, President, OEIS Foundation. 11 South Adelaide Avenue, Highland Park, NJ 08904, USA. Also Visiting Scientist, Math. Dept., Rutgers University, Piscataway, NJ. Phone: 732 828 6098; home page: http://NeilSloane.com Email: njasloane@gmail.com
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Are you saying I should be able to download it because google scanned it? Are you able to? Perhaps it is because I do not live in USA but I cannot download it, at least not from the link you gave. On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 7:59 AM, Michael Kleber <michael.kleber@gmail.com> wrote:
A perfect request for Google's book scanning project: take a look at
https://books.google.com/books?id=yYjxAAAAMAAJ&dq=Proceedings%20of%20the%20L...
or https://goo.gl/3DZxi1 for short.
As Dave points out, this work is out of copyright, so last week's appeals court ruling that scanning is fair use is irrelevant in this case: You are entirely welcome to put a scan of your copy up, it's just that Google already did it for you.
--Michael
On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 12:54 AM, Dan Asimov <dasimov@earthlink.net> wrote:
In a similar vein, I have no access to most research journals, including even the American Mathematical Monthly going back to 1923.
—Dan
On Oct 21, 2015, at 9:02 PM, Neil Sloane <njasloane@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Math Fun, This paper J. D. H. Dickson, <a href=" http://plms.oxfordjournals.org/content/s1-10/1/120.extract">Discussion of two double series arising from the number of terms in determinants of certain forms</a>, Proc. London Math. Soc., 10 (1879), 120-122. has some nice sequences in it. I HAVE a photocopy, which I made myself about 45 years ago, but I was hoping that by now it would be freely available on the web, so I could put a link to a free copy into sequence https://oeis.org/A047920 and many others that the paper contains.
Fat chance - Oxford Univ. Press will rent it to me for one day for $39.00.
No doubt I am naive, but I find this very annoying. It was published by the London Mathematical Society in 1879.
Best regards Neil
Neil J. A. Sloane, President, OEIS Foundation. 11 South Adelaide Avenue, Highland Park, NJ 08904, USA. Also Visiting Scientist, Math. Dept., Rutgers University, Piscataway, NJ. Phone: 732 828 6098; home page: http://NeilSloane.com Email: njasloane@gmail.com
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Hmm, I have no idea what the restrictions are outside the USA. I am indeed saying that I was able to download a 251-page PDF of the entire scanned volume of ProcLonMathSoc from https://goo.gl/3DZxi1 -- under the gear menu on the top-right, one of the options is "Download PDF". What do you see? How about the link https://play.google.com/store/books/details?id=yYjxAAAAMAAJ&rdid=book-yYjxAA... which (for me) is the free e-book version, from the Google Play store? --Michael On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 9:21 AM, James Buddenhagen <jbuddenh@gmail.com> wrote:
Are you saying I should be able to download it because google scanned it? Are you able to? Perhaps it is because I do not live in USA but I cannot download it, at least not from the link you gave.
On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 7:59 AM, Michael Kleber <michael.kleber@gmail.com> wrote:
A perfect request for Google's book scanning project: take a look at
https://books.google.com/books?id=yYjxAAAAMAAJ&dq=Proceedings%20of%20the%20L...
or https://goo.gl/3DZxi1 for short.
As Dave points out, this work is out of copyright, so last week's appeals court ruling that scanning is fair use is irrelevant in this case: You
are
entirely welcome to put a scan of your copy up, it's just that Google already did it for you.
--Michael
On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 12:54 AM, Dan Asimov <dasimov@earthlink.net> wrote:
In a similar vein, I have no access to most research journals, including even the American Mathematical Monthly going back to 1923.
—Dan
On Oct 21, 2015, at 9:02 PM, Neil Sloane <njasloane@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Math Fun, This paper J. D. H. Dickson, <a href=" http://plms.oxfordjournals.org/content/s1-10/1/120.extract ">Discussion of two double series arising from the number of terms in determinants of certain forms</a>, Proc. London Math. Soc., 10 (1879), 120-122. has some nice sequences in it. I HAVE a photocopy, which I made myself about 45 years ago, but I was hoping that by now it would be freely available on the web, so I could put a link to a free copy into sequence https://oeis.org/A047920 and many others that the paper contains.
Fat chance - Oxford Univ. Press will rent it to me for one day for $39.00.
No doubt I am naive, but I find this very annoying. It was published by the London Mathematical Society in 1879.
Best regards Neil
Neil J. A. Sloane, President, OEIS Foundation. 11 South Adelaide Avenue, Highland Park, NJ 08904, USA. Also Visiting Scientist, Math. Dept., Rutgers University, Piscataway, NJ. Phone: 732 828 6098; home page: http://NeilSloane.com Email: njasloane@gmail.com
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Nope. Cannot download it here in Mexico. Under the gear menu, only "My Library, Help, Advanced Book Search" are available. I don't see any download option at the "play.google.com" store either. :( On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 8:33 AM, Michael Kleber <michael.kleber@gmail.com> wrote:
Hmm, I have no idea what the restrictions are outside the USA. I am indeed saying that I was able to download a 251-page PDF of the entire scanned volume of ProcLonMathSoc from https://goo.gl/3DZxi1 -- under the gear menu on the top-right, one of the options is "Download PDF". What do you see?
How about the link
https://play.google.com/store/books/details?id=yYjxAAAAMAAJ&rdid=book-yYjxAA... which (for me) is the free e-book version, from the Google Play store?
--Michael
On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 9:21 AM, James Buddenhagen <jbuddenh@gmail.com> wrote:
Are you saying I should be able to download it because google scanned it? Are you able to? Perhaps it is because I do not live in USA but I cannot download it, at least not from the link you gave.
On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 7:59 AM, Michael Kleber < michael.kleber@gmail.com> wrote:
A perfect request for Google's book scanning project: take a look at
https://books.google.com/books?id=yYjxAAAAMAAJ&dq=Proceedings%20of%20the%20L...
or https://goo.gl/3DZxi1 for short.
As Dave points out, this work is out of copyright, so last week's
appeals
court ruling that scanning is fair use is irrelevant in this case: You are entirely welcome to put a scan of your copy up, it's just that Google already did it for you.
--Michael
On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 12:54 AM, Dan Asimov <dasimov@earthlink.net> wrote:
In a similar vein, I have no access to most research journals, including even the American Mathematical Monthly going back to 1923.
—Dan
On Oct 21, 2015, at 9:02 PM, Neil Sloane <njasloane@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Math Fun, This paper J. D. H. Dickson, <a href=" http://plms.oxfordjournals.org/content/s1-10/1/120.extract ">Discussion of two double series arising from the number of terms in determinants of certain forms</a>, Proc. London Math. Soc., 10 (1879), 120-122. has some nice sequences in it. I HAVE a photocopy, which I made myself about 45 years ago, but I was hoping that by now it would be freely available on the web, so I could put a link to a free copy into sequence https://oeis.org/A047920 and many others that the paper contains.
Fat chance - Oxford Univ. Press will rent it to me for one day for $39.00.
No doubt I am naive, but I find this very annoying. It was published by the London Mathematical Society in 1879.
Best regards Neil
Neil J. A. Sloane, President, OEIS Foundation. 11 South Adelaide Avenue, Highland Park, NJ 08904, USA. Also Visiting Scientist, Math. Dept., Rutgers University, Piscataway, NJ. Phone: 732 828 6098; home page: http://NeilSloane.com Email: njasloane@gmail.com
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Can you get at a proxy server perhaps? WFL On 10/22/15, James Buddenhagen <jbuddenh@gmail.com> wrote:
Nope. Cannot download it here in Mexico. Under the gear menu, only "My Library, Help, Advanced Book Search" are available. I don't see any download option at the "play.google.com" store either. :(
On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 8:33 AM, Michael Kleber <michael.kleber@gmail.com> wrote:
Hmm, I have no idea what the restrictions are outside the USA. I am indeed saying that I was able to download a 251-page PDF of the entire scanned volume of ProcLonMathSoc from https://goo.gl/3DZxi1 -- under the gear menu on the top-right, one of the options is "Download PDF". What do you see?
How about the link
https://play.google.com/store/books/details?id=yYjxAAAAMAAJ&rdid=book-yYjxAA... which (for me) is the free e-book version, from the Google Play store?
--Michael
On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 9:21 AM, James Buddenhagen <jbuddenh@gmail.com> wrote:
Are you saying I should be able to download it because google scanned it? Are you able to? Perhaps it is because I do not live in USA but I cannot download it, at least not from the link you gave.
On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 7:59 AM, Michael Kleber < michael.kleber@gmail.com> wrote:
A perfect request for Google's book scanning project: take a look at
https://books.google.com/books?id=yYjxAAAAMAAJ&dq=Proceedings%20of%20the%20L...
or https://goo.gl/3DZxi1 for short.
As Dave points out, this work is out of copyright, so last week's
appeals
court ruling that scanning is fair use is irrelevant in this case: You are entirely welcome to put a scan of your copy up, it's just that Google already did it for you.
--Michael
On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 12:54 AM, Dan Asimov <dasimov@earthlink.net> wrote:
In a similar vein, I have no access to most research journals, including even the American Mathematical Monthly going back to 1923.
—Dan
On Oct 21, 2015, at 9:02 PM, Neil Sloane <njasloane@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Math Fun, This paper J. D. H. Dickson, <a href=" http://plms.oxfordjournals.org/content/s1-10/1/120.extract ">Discussion of two double series arising from the number of terms in determinants of certain forms</a>, Proc. London Math. Soc., 10 (1879), 120-122. has some nice sequences in it. I HAVE a photocopy, which I made myself about 45 years ago, but I was hoping that by now it would be freely available on the web, so I could put a link to a free copy into sequence https://oeis.org/A047920 and many others that the paper contains.
Fat chance - Oxford Univ. Press will rent it to me for one day for $39.00.
No doubt I am naive, but I find this very annoying. It was published by the London Mathematical Society in 1879.
Best regards Neil
Neil J. A. Sloane, President, OEIS Foundation. 11 South Adelaide Avenue, Highland Park, NJ 08904, USA. Also Visiting Scientist, Math. Dept., Rutgers University, Piscataway, NJ. Phone: 732 828 6098; home page: http://NeilSloane.com Email: njasloane@gmail.com
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On 10/22/15, James Buddenhagen <jbuddenh@gmail.com> wrote:
Nope. Cannot download it here in Mexico. Under the gear menu, only "My Library, Help, Advanced Book Search" are available. I don't see any download option at the "play.google.com" store either. :(
... same for me here in Brussels, Belgium. Best, É.
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