According to something I found on the web, there are over 700,000 people in the U.S. with the family name Lee. So calling Lee Sedol by "Lee" doesn't really eliminate the ambiguity. —Dan
On Feb 24, 2016, at 8:29 AM, Allan Wechsler <acwacw@gmail.com> wrote:
I wanted to add a comment regarding Lee Sedol's name. In accordance with standard Korean practice, "Lee" is his family name, and "Sedol" is his personal name. (There are additional weirdnesses: the surname that is spelled "Lee" in the West is actually pronounced "ee", and spelled accordingly in Korean letters. The "L" was present historically, but has been lost in modern pronunciation.)
In Western formal writing, people can be referred to by bare family name; if we choose to do so with Lee Sedol, we should call him "Lee", not "Sedol". (In Korean formal writing, I don't think one uses the bare family name in this way, because they have a family-name crisis: half the population has one of four family names, so referring to a person by bare family name introduces too much ambiguity.)
On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 11:03 PM, Warren D Smith <warren.wds@gmail.com> wrote:
$1 million match now set for march 9, 10, 12, 13, 15 in Four Seasons Hotel, Seoul 2016; video will be streamed live on YouTube here: https://www.youtube.com/c/DeepmindAI plus televised all over E.Asia. One game per day starting 1pm Seoul time. This time is 11pm/8pm on the DAY BEFORE for USA eastern/western time zone. Chinese rules with a komi of 7.5, each game expected to take about 5 hours. Match commentators will include Michael Redmond 9 dan, the only professional Western Go player to achieve 9 dan. Redmond will commentate in English, others in other languages.
Demis Hassabis said most Go players are giving Sedol the edge over AlphaGo. "They give us a less than 5 percent chance of winning … but what they don’t realize is how much our system has improved," he said. "It's improving while I'm talking with you." I would imagine Hassabis et al can assess how much it improved... they presumably have an objective basis for believing they'll be able to beat Lee Sedol... and Fan Hui, the European Go Champ AlphaGo beat, is now on the AlphaGo team as some kind of advisor. An interview with him is here:
https://www.usgo.org/news/2016/01/chinese-professionals-react-to-the-histori...
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