From: "Shaun Vaughan" <shaun@x1.ltd.uk>

Is that not how PVD, Timo Maas, Tiesto etc make their money?

dear shaun , as u very obviously know absolutely NOTHIN' about how this deejay business is werkin' , i'll try to explain a few FACTS to such an illiterate person like u here !!! ;-) FACT is that deejays like pvd , timo maas , paul oakenfold , carl cox , sven väth , etc. are not only deejays , but producers of their own music & the most important FACT is that the record industry actually pays a lot of money to please those deejays with FREE promotional copies of their latest products !!! ;-) this means that , if i get a FREE promotional copy of - let us dream ;-) - the new kw single , their record company & their distributor even EXPECTS that i'll play this record in my radio show or in a club !!! ;-) so the job of a deejay is it to PROMOTE "official" records that they get from record companies all over the world !!! that's what we get paid for !!! ;-) sure , we also play so-called "white labels" of mostly unknown origin & sometimes also "bootlegs" , which are - surprise , surprise !!! ;-) - even openly available - if legally or not is another unsolved mystery in this case ;-) - in record stores for deejays !!! ;-) but if somebody SELLS a bootleg to whomever , wherever , he's "officially" committin' A_CRIME_!!! that's A_PLAIN_FACT_!!! no matter , if u call this "moralizin'" or whatever !!! i jus' want to get THE_FACTS straight here ... once & for all !!! so as u hopefully see by now , shaun , your very weak example doesn't fit @ all !!! :-/

I was just tryin' to make a point,

sorry , but u actually scored even less than zero points with whatever u've tried !!! *sigh* :-o

and you're the one who's getting riled here, not me.

yeah , because i highly dislike such stupidity !!! :-/ this surely ISN'T the place for such infantile arguments , shaun !!! so please do us all a great favor next time & inform yourself @ least a lil' bit better , before u come here & insult ev'ry deejay or whoever witch what u scribble , okay ???

That was not my intention Ojay.

but that's what u actually did ... with or without purpose !!! :-/

But I will repeat my point that even if you own any bootleg stuff yourself then you are just as guilty as Eduardo for trying to sell his gear either on or off the list.

fyi : i've NEVER_EVER sold any bootlegs anywhere & will surely NEVER do that , because i'm not a bootlegger nor a pirate nor anythin' like that !!! oh ... i'm such "a hypocrite" !!! *LOL* ;-)))

You are not supposed to possess it. If you wanna get moralistic

u talk to the wrong person here , shaun !!! :-/ rick is the one u should talk to ... with his hypocritic "holier than thou" attitude !!! :-o it's actually really sad that u still doesn't seem to understand the BIG diff'rence between SELLIN' somethin' on a list like this ... or tradin' / swappin' somethin' with other fans here !!! *sigh* :-o but i'm jus' too tired to explain it over & over again !!! :-/ u have to make up your own mind therefore , shaun !!! ;-)

I suggest you destroy any 'dodgy' stuff in your collection

that's what i did already years ago , because i simply don't want to possess such "stuff" that i don't like or want anymore !!! ;-)

and clear your conscience.

believe it or not , but my conscience is clear , shaun !!! *hehehe* ;-))) quote of the day : "There is no flattery that can heal a bad conscience; nor slander that can wound a good one." - Thomas Watson however ... greetinx , oh jay - "the hypocrite ... & proud of it !!!" *BWG* ;-))) *~\^/~*