Re: [Kraftwerk] Tour de France '03 and Expo 2000
I would prefer to think that the new Tour de France may have something to do with Ralf's love of the race rather than selling out and just doing a song for money. I realize that they did basically sellout for Expo 2000 .. but Tour de France is different ... they're not writing just to be writing... they're writing about something Ralf loves. This is far different than just throwing together a song for whatever event offers them money. ____________________________________________________________ Get advanced SPAM filtering on Webmail or POP Mail ... Get Lycos Mail! http://login.mail.lycos.com/r/referral?aid=27005
Yes, I can agree with you, but why release an album about TdF after 20 years? IF the "brand new songs" are about the race too, it's ok... but if not, TdF 03 will seems like a good opportunity to make some money. I would prefer a new album with a leitmitv, another center theme, not TdF, a topic about they spoke 20 years ago... Same song, same sleeve... oh, come on... is it really a NEW albom, or just a new tdf single, to get some extra money at the 100th race, with some bonus tracks (the new ones)? No problem with private mails... :-) peace Nicolau www.kraftworld.hpg.com.br ----- Original Message ----- From: "owlwatcher_974" <owlwatcher_974@lycos.com> To: "Nicolau Centola" <ncentola@terra.com.br>; "Music, non-stop." <kraftwerk@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 7:48 PM Subject: Re: [Kraftwerk] Tour de France '03 and Expo 2000
I would prefer to think that the new Tour de France may have something to do with Ralf's love of the race rather than selling out and just doing a song for money. I realize that they did basically sellout for Expo 2000 .. but Tour de France is different ... they're not writing just to be writing... they're writing about something Ralf loves. This is far different than just throwing together a song for whatever event offers them money.
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Especially seeing as they've already re-released Tour de France once already... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nicolau Centola" <ncentola@terra.com.br> To: <owlwatcher_974@lycos.com>; "Music, non-stop." <kraftwerk@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 12:08 AM Subject: Re: [Kraftwerk] Tour de France '03 and Expo 2000
Yes, I can agree with you, but why release an album about TdF after 20 years? IF the "brand new songs" are about the race too, it's ok... but if not, TdF 03 will seems like a good opportunity to make some money. I would prefer a new album with a leitmitv, another center theme, not TdF, a topic about they spoke 20 years ago... Same song, same sleeve... oh, come on... is it really a NEW albom, or just a new tdf single, to get some extra money at the 100th race, with some bonus tracks (the new ones)?
No problem with private mails... :-)
peace
Nicolau www.kraftworld.hpg.com.br
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I would prefer to think that the new Tour de France may have something to do with Ralf's love of the race rather than selling out and just doing a song for money. I realize that they did basically sellout for Expo 2000 .. but Tour de France is different ... they're not writing just to be writing... they're writing about something Ralf loves. This is far different than just throwing together a song for whatever event offers them money.
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le 20/06/2003 1:08, Nicolau Centola à ncentola@terra.com.br a écrit :
why release an album about TdF after 20 years?
Why not ? *imo* It's a *great* idea... a *timeless* one, like Kraftwerk since 1974! The legendary *100 years old* Tour de France still fits perfectly since a century THE man + machine concept. I always thought a single was not enough for a strong theme like the Tour de France. So a whole album... even 20 years later, a kind of 'timeless' way to celebrate the centenary... not illogical :-)
IF the "brand new songs" are about the race too, it's ok... but if not, TdF 03 will seems like a good opportunity to make some money.
You are from Brazil and I certainly share your *probable* passion for football :-) (*btw* Cameroon beat Brazil last night in the fifa confederations cup! oops! *sorry* :-/), and as you are so far away and don't seem to feel the real cycling / TdF culture that we used to have here in Europe so I can understand your opinion.... ;-) Ralf and Florian must be true cycling fans and they are certainly more interested sincerely by the race itself and it's emotionnal context etc (that must inspire their music!) than the money all around. Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm afraid ASO (the TdF organizer) didn't give them any € to release this "soundtrack"... I really would like ASO to replace their silly official "pseudo-classical" Tour de France hymne by a true Kraftwerk Tour de France hymne (and then pay R&F for that...). (well, wait and see, I'm still dreaming until the 5th july - day of prologue) :-/
I would prefer a new album with a leitmitv, another center theme, not TdF, a topic about they spoke 20 years ago... Same song,
'same title' doesn't mean necessarily 'same song'...
same sleeve... oh, come on... is it really a NEW albom,
I hope !!
or just a new tdf single, to get some extra money at the 100th race, with some bonus tracks (the new ones)?
NO !!!
[...] So why don't they did it in 83? It sounds to me as new "hey, let's get some extra money" project. "Let's make a "new album", putting 3 or 4 news songs. All that stupid fans will buy it, we make a dozen concerts, some
...whatever title or "concept" within a "new" album, stupid (and also non-stupid ;-)) fans will buy it *anyway* :-)
What's the next big soundtrackable event?
FIFA World Cup Brazil 2014 :-))) Peace, _ /o o\ Filtre4Pole \ ~ / I I - -
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