Paris shows further observations
Having seen 2 of the Paris shows (1st and last) I thought I'd stick my oar in and add a few further observations that no-one else seems to have picked up on, along with a couple of personal thoughts... APRES SHOW No beer, just wine, mineral water or champage at the bar... very civilised! INTRO MUSIC The familaiar warm-up music from previous tours (that low level computer "data" noise) has been replaced with a constantly-evolving pattern using the same sound as the "Antenna" home-page from www.kraftwerk.com. About 10 mins before KW came on, I saw the front-of-house guy set a DAT (or possibly minidisc) going, solo the signal on the desk to check the level in headphones, and then slowly fade up the track. Gotta say I quite like this... it could be the basis of a great new track. EXPO2000 Not just based on the Underground Resistance main mix, but also contains elements of the DJ Rolando mix (the opening arpeggaited riff), along with bits of KW's original (the "stab" riff, and the lead "string" melody, but sped-up to the new tempo). Topically, I don't think the phrases "Expo" or "2000" were used at all, though all the others were, particuarly "Planet Of Visions" which surely would be a more appropriate title now. There was also that "Germany/Detroit/so electric" stuff from the UR mixes. Curious how this is the most open KW have been in collaborative terms... recycling material from other peoples' remixes. They obviously like the whole Detroit/UR vibe a lot. NEON LIGHTS As reported, quite like the 1981 live version, i.e. faster than the original album take. It basically splits into 2 neat sections, the first with vox from Ralf (one verse in English, the next in German), then, after a small breakdown, the syncopated bass riff starts and the lead line meanders nicely above it. Great to hear them do this track, seemingly one of most fans' favourites, but to be honest I reckon they could have done a bit more with it. The rhythm is very rigid, and surely would lend itself to a nice shuffle-groove if you were to update it more completely. Just a thought... POCKET CALCULATOR Must be the funkiest song of the show. Taking off further from "The Mix" version, the rhythm is not always straight house-style, but often morphs into a great breakbeat-style groove, which together with the choppy stab-like synth, rocks like mad. After a verse in English, Ralf sings the rest in French. Must say that I didn't mourn the loss of the hand-held devices at all; I think the music and graphics more than make up for that, and also allow KW to kind of grow-old gracefully, not having to attempt to boogie down at the front any more. Did kind of miss Florian's occasional mad calculator soloing though! MUSIC NON STOP/CONSOLES On the final midnight show, I got a good opportunity to look at what they were actually doing onstage, as I was watching from the second balcony, and moved right down the side of as far as you could go. Besides the laptops, all of the consoles are the same size, but have subtle differences. Henning and Fritz's seem identical; a small musical keyboard to the right, and rows of switches and faders to the left, with Fritz making particular use of these, creating reverb and delay FX on the drums. They also appear to have some kind of jogwheel on the top left. Ralf's console has a more full-length keyboard across the whole of the front, while Florian's has the shorter keyboard but replaces the fader panel with some kind of green-lit LED-covered device showing text; I'm guessing that this is something to do with the famous "Robovox" unit spotted on previous tours. I really do believe that they are doing most of the mixing on-stage; the front-of-house guy only had a dozen faders pushed up, seemingly in stereo pairs, and I'm guessing that 8 of these are the straight stereo feeds from the 4 KWers onstage. When it was time to make their exit, an illuminated "pathway" on the floor at Florian's side lights up, guiding the guys away. On the first show, Florian and Fritz gave shy little waves, otherwise I didn't notice any of them acknowledge the audience in any way at all. Robots to the end! AND FINALLY... Afterwards, I was chatting to a couple of fans who I'd seen before at previous shows. One told me that he's spoken to Gunther(?) from KW's crew, who told him that they were taking the show to Japan and then to Australia in Dec and Jan. Must say that this makes sense, given that they were going to play Australia at the end of the last tour. When pressed about when they would be touring more fully, Gunther said "they have to finish the album first"! Whether this is a joke or not, I've no idea, but don't hold your breath. Cheers, Staggboy.
le 29/09/2002 20:06, Mark J Stagg à staggman@tesco.net a écrit :
(...) When pressed about when they would be touring more fully, Gunther said "they have to finish the album first"! Whether this is a joke or not, I've no idea, but don't hold your breath.
imo: this is not a joke... a new album is really planned. I was the first and only one on this list who gave this info ( or rumour? ) a few weeks ago, but nobody seemed to care... ;-) Greetings, _ /o o\ Filtre4Pole \ ~ / I I - - WARNING: Any cancellation always possible! ( as if you didn't know...;-)
We'll believe when we hold it in our hands. There's been a rumour of a new album every summer since 1987. 4000 days and waiting since "The Mix". Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "Filtre4Pole" <catmeow@wanadoo.fr> To: <kraftwerk@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 12:48 AM Subject: Re: [Kraftwerk] Paris shows further observations le 29/09/2002 20:06, Mark J Stagg à staggman@tesco.net a écrit :
(...) When pressed about when they would be touring more fully, Gunther said "they have to finish the album first"! Whether this is a joke or not, I've no idea, but don't hold your breath.
imo: this is not a joke... a new album is really planned. I was the first and only one on this list who gave this info ( or rumour? ) a few weeks ago, but nobody seemed to care... ;-)
each rumour is a joke *lol* is anybody interested in an video (aprox-time 30secs. aprox 4.4.mb) of an video from the street, in which the klingklang is? btw: electram: i do not up it on your site *lol* ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Reed" <gentle.anarchist@virgin.net> To: <kraftwerk@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 1:55 AM Subject: Re: [Kraftwerk] Paris shows further observations
We'll believe when we hold it in our hands. There's been a rumour of a new album every summer since 1987.
4000 days and waiting since "The Mix".
Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "Filtre4Pole" <catmeow@wanadoo.fr> To: <kraftwerk@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 12:48 AM Subject: Re: [Kraftwerk] Paris shows further observations
le 29/09/2002 20:06, Mark J Stagg à staggman@tesco.net a écrit :
(...) When pressed about when they would be touring more fully, Gunther said "they have to finish the album first"! Whether this is a joke or not, I've no idea, but don't hold your breath.
imo: this is not a joke... a new album is really planned. I was the first and only one on this list who gave this info ( or rumour? ) a few weeks ago, but nobody seemed to care... ;-)
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Hello Arthur, ab> is anybody interested in an video (aprox-time 30secs. aprox 4.4.mb) of an ab> video from the street, in which the klingklang is? We are interested in these video, of course... We have two forms: you can send by FTP or e-mail. Please send to our e-mail: kraftwerk@technopop.com.br We publish in our site and give all the credits ab> btw: electram: i do not up it on your site *lol* Why not? We thought that we did a good work... We don't hide nothing. Don't forget us... Best regards, Marcelo Duarte Dante de Conti http://kraftwerk.technopop.com.br Brasil
i'll up it on my site and you can download it...ok? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Electram" <electram@terra.com.br> To: "arthur brehm" <kraftwerk@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 4:17 AM Subject: Re[2]: [Kraftwerk] Paris shows further observations
Hello Arthur,
ab> is anybody interested in an video (aprox-time 30secs. aprox 4.4.mb) of an ab> video from the street, in which the klingklang is?
We are interested in these video, of course... We have two forms: you can send by FTP or e-mail. Please send to our e-mail: kraftwerk@technopop.com.br We publish in our site and give all the credits
ab> btw: electram: i do not up it on your site *lol*
Why not? We thought that we did a good work... We don't hide nothing. Don't forget us...
Best regards, Marcelo Duarte Dante de Conti http://kraftwerk.technopop.com.br Brasil
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Hello Arthur, ab> i'll up it on my site and you can download it...ok? Great! Weare curious about these video, like all the fans. When the video be published, please send an advert to the list. Best regards, Marcelo Duarte Dante de Conti http://kraftwerk.technopop.com.br Brasil ab> ----- Original Message ----- ab> From: "Electram" <electram@terra.com.br> ab> To: "arthur brehm" <kraftwerk@mailman.xmission.com> ab> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 4:17 AM ab> Subject: Re[2]: [Kraftwerk] Paris shows further observations
Hello Arthur,
ab> is anybody interested in an video (aprox-time 30secs. aprox 4.4.mb) of ab> an ab> video from the street, in which the klingklang is?
We are interested in these video, of course... We have two forms: you can send by FTP or e-mail. Please send to our e-mail: kraftwerk@technopop.com.br We publish in our site and give all the credits
ab> btw: electram: i do not up it on your site *lol*
Why not? We thought that we did a good work... We don't hide nothing. Don't forget us...
Best regards, Marcelo Duarte Dante de Conti http://kraftwerk.technopop.com.br Brasil
i try to put it into a smaller format... avi is in aprox 4.4mb. i try to put down the rate in max 2mb. the video shows the complete street from the klingklang-side and from the other side: the klingklang... i think, you will be surprised *g* ----- Original Message ----- From: "Electram" <electram@terra.com.br> To: "arthur brehm" <kraftwerk@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 3:50 PM Subject: [Kraftwerk] Kling Klang video
Hello Arthur,
ab> i'll up it on my site and you can download it...ok?
Great! Weare curious about these video, like all the fans. When the video be published, please send an advert to the list.
Best regards, Marcelo Duarte Dante de Conti http://kraftwerk.technopop.com.br Brasil
ab> ----- Original Message ----- ab> From: "Electram" <electram@terra.com.br> ab> To: "arthur brehm" <kraftwerk@mailman.xmission.com> ab> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 4:17 AM ab> Subject: Re[2]: [Kraftwerk] Paris shows further observations
Hello Arthur,
ab> is anybody interested in an video (aprox-time 30secs. aprox 4.4.mb) of ab> an ab> video from the street, in which the klingklang is?
We are interested in these video, of course... We have two forms: you can send by FTP or e-mail. Please send to our e-mail: kraftwerk@technopop.com.br We publish in our site and give all the credits
ab> btw: electram: i do not up it on your site *lol*
Why not? We thought that we did a good work... We don't hide nothing. Don't forget us...
Best regards, Marcelo Duarte Dante de Conti http://kraftwerk.technopop.com.br Brasil
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Hello Arthur, Whre exactly are the video? We search your site www.klanghof.de and we can't found the video. Can you show us the link to correct page? Best regards, Marcelo Duarte Dante de Conti http://kraftwerk.technopop.com.br Brasil ab> i try to put it into a smaller format... ab> avi is in aprox 4.4mb. i try to put down the rate in max 2mb. ab> the video shows the complete street from the klingklang-side and from the ab> other side: the klingklang... ab> i think, you will be surprised *g* ab> ----- Original Message ----- ab> From: "Electram" <electram@terra.com.br> ab> To: "arthur brehm" <kraftwerk@mailman.xmission.com> ab> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 3:50 PM ab> Subject: [Kraftwerk] Kling Klang video
Hello Arthur,
ab> i'll up it on my site and you can download it...ok?
Great! Weare curious about these video, like all the fans. When the video be published, please send an advert to the list.
Best regards, Marcelo Duarte Dante de Conti http://kraftwerk.technopop.com.br Brasil
ab> ----- Original Message ----- ab> From: "Electram" <electram@terra.com.br> ab> To: "arthur brehm" <kraftwerk@mailman.xmission.com> ab> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 4:17 AM ab> Subject: Re[2]: [Kraftwerk] Paris shows further observations
Hello Arthur,
ab> is anybody interested in an video (aprox-time 30secs. aprox 4.4.mb) ab> of ab> an ab> video from the street, in which the klingklang is?
We are interested in these video, of course... We have two forms: you can send by FTP or e-mail. Please send to our e-mail: kraftwerk@technopop.com.br We publish in our site and give all the credits
ab> btw: electram: i do not up it on your site *lol*
Why not? We thought that we did a good work... We don't hide nothing. Don't forget us...
Best regards, Marcelo Duarte Dante de Conti http://kraftwerk.technopop.com.br Brasil
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ab> _______________________________________________ ab> Kraftwerk mailing list ab> Kraftwerk@mailman.xmission.com ab> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kraftwerk -- Best regards, Electram mailto:electram@terra.com.br
its not yet on the site... please be patient! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Electram" <electram@terra.com.br> To: "arthur brehm" <kraftwerk@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 10:26 PM Subject: Re[2]: [Kraftwerk] Kling Klang video
Hello Arthur,
Whre exactly are the video? We search your site www.klanghof.de and we can't found the video. Can you show us the link to correct page?
Best regards, Marcelo Duarte Dante de Conti http://kraftwerk.technopop.com.br Brasil
ab> i try to put it into a smaller format... ab> avi is in aprox 4.4mb. i try to put down the rate in max 2mb.
ab> the video shows the complete street from the klingklang-side and from the ab> other side: the klingklang...
ab> i think, you will be surprised *g* ab> ----- Original Message ----- ab> From: "Electram" <electram@terra.com.br> ab> To: "arthur brehm" <kraftwerk@mailman.xmission.com> ab> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 3:50 PM ab> Subject: [Kraftwerk] Kling Klang video
Hello Arthur,
ab> i'll up it on my site and you can download it...ok?
Great! Weare curious about these video, like all the fans. When the video be published, please send an advert to the list.
Best regards, Marcelo Duarte Dante de Conti http://kraftwerk.technopop.com.br Brasil
ab> ----- Original Message ----- ab> From: "Electram" <electram@terra.com.br> ab> To: "arthur brehm" <kraftwerk@mailman.xmission.com> ab> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 4:17 AM ab> Subject: Re[2]: [Kraftwerk] Paris shows further observations
Hello Arthur,
ab> is anybody interested in an video (aprox-time 30secs. aprox 4.4.mb) ab> of ab> an ab> video from the street, in which the klingklang is?
We are interested in these video, of course... We have two forms: you can send by FTP or e-mail. Please send to our e-mail: kraftwerk@technopop.com.br We publish in our site and give all the credits
ab> btw: electram: i do not up it on your site *lol*
Why not? We thought that we did a good work... We don't hide nothing. Don't forget us...
Best regards, Marcelo Duarte Dante de Conti http://kraftwerk.technopop.com.br Brasil
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-- Best regards, Electram mailto:electram@terra.com.br
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Mark Reed wrote:
We'll believe when we hold it in our hands. There's been a rumour of a new album every summer since 1987.
4000 days and waiting since "The Mix".
Mark
----------------- The MIX doesn't count as a bonafide, authentic KW album. The last one was "Electric Cafe." amir
At 07:53 2002-09-30 -0400, webmaster@slystone.com wrote:
Mark Reed wrote:
We'll believe when we hold it in our hands. There's been a rumour of a new album every summer since 1987.
4000 days and waiting since "The Mix".
Mark
The MIX doesn't count as a bonafide, authentic KW album. The last one was "Electric Cafe."
"Electric Cafe" doesn't count either. the last one was "Computer World". beat that. 21 years and counting. ;) / petter
Filtre4Pole <catmeow@wanadoo.fr> writes on Mon, 30 Sep 2002 01:48:16 +0200 (METDST):
imo: this is not a joke... a new album is really planned. I was the first and only one on this list who gave this info ( or rumour? ) a few weeks ago, but nobody seemed to care... ;-)
Greetings,
_ /o o\ Filtre4Pole \ ~ / I I - -
WARNING: Any cancellation always possible! ( as if you didn't know...;-)
A 'new' album is announced since...mmmh, 1992 or so ;-) I remember Fritz Hilpert telling us after the Linz conzert 1997 the new album will come 'soon'...I just think our guys want to have a nice laugh in the backroom of KlingKlang... Gruesse aus Wien, Georgie
le 30/09/2002 10:33, Georg Jajus à Georgie@blackbox.net a écrit :
A 'new' album is announced since...mmmh, 1992 or so ;-) I remember Fritz Hilpert telling us after the Linz conzert 1997 the new album will come 'soon'...I just think our guys want to have a nice laugh in the backroom of KlingKlang...
Are you sure? afair: not any Kraftwerk album was announced between 1992 and 1997...??? The 1997 album was REALLY planned, then postponed, and finally CANCELLED! As you know, - long time ago! - the very first KW album to be cancelled ( 1983 'Technopop' project ) was followed 3 years later by the true "Electric Café" release... So after the "1997/98 cancellation", we can choose between 2 hypothesis: - Another cancellation :-( - A new album ( why not? ) :-) Let's evaluate now the probabilities: You can give 99 percent ( and even 100 if that makes you *lol* so much! ;-)) ) to the cancellation (or rumour) hypothesis... ( if this is what you want... ;-) ...maybe, perhaps, _ /o o\ Filtre4Pole \ ~ / I I - -
Filtre4Pole schrieb:
(...)
A 'new' album is announced since...mmmh, 1992 or so ;-) I remember Fritz Hilpert telling us after the Linz conzert 1997 the new album will come 'soon'...I just think our guys want to have a nice laugh in the backroom of KlingKlang...
Are you sure? afair: not any Kraftwerk album was announced between 1992 and 1997...??? The 1997 album was REALLY planned, then postponed, and finally CANCELLED!
Well, I remember an interview from 1991 with the 'Schweizer Fernsehen' at their concert in Zuerich, in which Ralf Huetter told that their ( = Kraftwerk) were working on a new album, which will be released the next year ( = would have been in 1992).
As you know, - long time ago! - the very first KW album to be cancelled ( 1983 'Technopop' project ) was followed 3 years later by the true "Electric Café" release... So after the "1997/98 cancellation", we can choose between 2 hypothesis:
- Another cancellation :-(
- A new album ( why not? ) :-)
Let's evaluate now the probabilities:
You can give 99 percent ( and even 100 if that makes you *lol* so much! ;-)) ) to the cancellation (or rumour) hypothesis... ( if this is what you want... ;-)
...maybe, perhaps,
Well, they released "Expo 2000" after 'some years', however: I think they know exactly what they do - and what they don't want to do. Ralf & Florian are pretty clever - not only in things concerning business and money ;-). If they have nothing more to say in the langue of music - they told so much in the past, we - of course - have to respect this. Hey, we're talking about Kraftwerk ;-). I really did belive there will be a new album in 1997, as three (five) new songs were played in Linz / Karlsruhe - songs I really did like - but now I don't belive any more in a new album. They canceled the two new songs from 1997, only "Tango" ("Airwaves"-extension) was left. I mean, their playing 90% the same songs of the 1981 tour - and still all their concerts are sold out. People who go to a Kraftwerk-concert know what they will see - no new songs, but 'new designed' old songs - plus a new stage since 2002 - and still people go crazy. The 1997 Linze concert was the best concert I ever visited. It was simply magic. It's like a favourite film you have - you watch it again and again, know every scene, every sentence. That's what Kraftwerk makes so different, so timeless, so unique. (And, of course, I hope they'll come to austria one day again ;-) ) Gruesse aus Wien, Georgie
le 1/10/2002 11:38, Georg Jajus a écrit :
(...) Well, they released "Expo 2000" after 'some years', however: I think they know exactly what they do - and what they don't want to do. Ralf & Florian are pretty clever - not only in things concerning business and money ;-).
If they have nothing more to say in the langue of music - they told so much in the past, we - of course - have to respect this. Hey, we're talking about Kraftwerk ;-). I really did belive there will be a new album in 1997, as three (five) new songs were played in Linz / Karlsruhe - songs I really did like - but now I don't belive any more in a new album. They canceled the two new songs from 1997, only "Tango" ("Airwaves"-extension) was left.
I mean, their playing 90% the same songs of the 1981 tour - and still all their concerts are sold out. People who go to a Kraftwerk-concert know what they will see - no new songs, but 'new designed' old songs - plus a new stage since 2002 - and still people go crazy. The 1997 Linze concert was the best concert I ever visited. It was simply magic. It's like a favourite film you have - you watch it again and again, know every scene, every sentence. That's what Kraftwerk makes so different, so timeless, so unique.
(And, of course, I hope they'll come to austria one day again ;-) )
All right! Georgie, I know what you mean ;-) and... I absolutely agree with you! :-) I have to say that I really understand why Kraftwerk usually prefer "keeping silence" rather than produce a common anodyne album every two years like other artists do... Talking about a "planned KW album" does not mean it will be released... - of course! However, I still believe this project actually exists, though, I'll not be surprised if nothing come from the record plant next... ;-) The "new album" is a low hypothesis: Kraftwerk will release an album if ( and ONLY if ) they completely feel secure... In other words: the next album will be a Masterpiece, or will be... not released. Anyway, new album or not, don't worry, I'll not be disappointed! Let's hope and dream... ;-)) ...maybe, perhaps, _ /o o\ Filtre4Pole ( naïve guy, isn't he? hum! ;-)) \ ~ / I I - -
Am 10/2/02 7:01:11 AM, schrieb Filtre4Pole <catmeow@wanadoo.fr>:
In other words: the next album will be a Masterpiece, or will be... not released.
Anyway, new album or not, don't worry, I'll not be disappointed! Let's hope and dream... ;-))
....maybe, perhaps,
...and I can see the members of this list pointing out every miniscule thing they hate about it and ramble on (if this album scenario of yours happens), and then more people bitch about never getting an album (if it doesn't) Sorry, just a bit irritable today. ________________________ omegaChance http://www.omegaChance.tk
I agree omegaChance wrote:Am 10/2/02 7:01:11 AM, schrieb Filtre4Pole :
In other words: the next album will be a Masterpiece, or will be... not released.
Anyway, new album or not, don't worry, I'll not be disappointed! Let's hope and dream... ;-))
....maybe, perhaps,
...and I can see the members of this list pointing out every miniscule thing they hate about it and ramble on (if this album scenario of yours happens), and then more people bitch about never getting an album (if it doesn't) Sorry, just a bit irritable today. ________________________ omegaChance http://www.omegaChance.tk _______________________________________________ Kraftwerk mailing list Kraftwerk@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kraftwerk --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo!
Hello Mark, We are preparing a page with parts of reviews from several fans about the last Kraftwerk Paris concerts, and we would like to use some parts of your reviews, giving all the respective credits. Do you agree with the use of your review? If you agree, please send your name, city and country, for the credits. Best regards, Marcelo Duarte Dante de Conti http://kraftwerk.technopop.com.br Brasil MJS> Having seen 2 of the Paris shows (1st and last) I thought I'd stick my oar MJS> in and add a few further observations that no-one else seems to have picked MJS> up on, along with a couple of personal thoughts... MJS> APRES SHOW MJS> No beer, just wine, mineral water or champage at the bar... very civilised! MJS> INTRO MUSIC MJS> The familaiar warm-up music from previous tours (that low level computer MJS> "data" noise) has been replaced with a constantly-evolving pattern using the MJS> same sound as the "Antenna" home-page from www.kraftwerk.com. About 10 mins MJS> before KW came on, I saw the front-of-house guy set a DAT (or possibly MJS> minidisc) going, solo the signal on the desk to check the level in MJS> headphones, and then slowly fade up the track. Gotta say I quite like MJS> this... it could be the basis of a great new track. MJS> EXPO2000 MJS> Not just based on the Underground Resistance main mix, but also contains MJS> elements of the DJ Rolando mix (the opening arpeggaited riff), along with MJS> bits of KW's original (the "stab" riff, and the lead "string" melody, but MJS> sped-up to the new tempo). Topically, I don't think the phrases "Expo" or MJS> "2000" were used at all, though all the others were, particuarly "Planet Of MJS> Visions" which surely would be a more appropriate title now. There was also MJS> that "Germany/Detroit/so electric" stuff from the UR mixes. Curious how this MJS> is the most open KW have been in collaborative terms... recycling material MJS> from other peoples' remixes. They obviously like the whole Detroit/UR vibe a MJS> lot. MJS> NEON LIGHTS MJS> As reported, quite like the 1981 live version, i.e. faster than the original MJS> album take. It basically splits into 2 neat sections, the first with vox MJS> from Ralf (one verse in English, the next in German), then, after a small MJS> breakdown, the syncopated bass riff starts and the lead line meanders nicely MJS> above it. Great to hear them do this track, seemingly one of most fans' MJS> favourites, but to be honest I reckon they could have done a bit more with MJS> it. The rhythm is very rigid, and surely would lend itself to a nice MJS> shuffle-groove if you were to update it more completely. Just a thought... MJS> POCKET CALCULATOR MJS> Must be the funkiest song of the show. Taking off further from "The Mix" MJS> version, the rhythm is not always straight house-style, but often morphs MJS> into a great breakbeat-style groove, which together with the choppy MJS> stab-like synth, rocks like mad. After a verse in English, Ralf sings the MJS> rest in French. Must say that I didn't mourn the loss of the hand-held MJS> devices at all; I think the music and graphics more than make up for that, MJS> and also allow KW to kind of grow-old gracefully, not having to attempt to MJS> boogie down at the front any more. Did kind of miss Florian's occasional mad MJS> calculator soloing though! MJS> MUSIC NON STOP/CONSOLES MJS> On the final midnight show, I got a good opportunity to look at what they MJS> were actually doing onstage, as I was watching from the second balcony, and MJS> moved right down the side of as far as you could go. Besides the laptops, MJS> all of the consoles are the same size, but have subtle differences. Henning MJS> and Fritz's seem identical; a small musical keyboard to the right, and rows MJS> of switches and faders to the left, with Fritz making particular use of MJS> these, creating reverb and delay FX on the drums. They also appear to have MJS> some kind of jogwheel on the top left. Ralf's console has a more full-length MJS> keyboard across the whole of the front, while Florian's has the shorter MJS> keyboard but replaces the fader panel with some kind of green-lit MJS> LED-covered device showing text; I'm guessing that this is something to do MJS> with the famous "Robovox" unit spotted on previous tours. I really do MJS> believe that they are doing most of the mixing on-stage; the front-of-house MJS> guy only had a dozen faders pushed up, seemingly in stereo pairs, and I'm MJS> guessing that 8 of these are the straight stereo feeds from the 4 KWers MJS> onstage. When it was time to make their exit, an illuminated "pathway" on MJS> the floor at Florian's side lights up, guiding the guys away. On the first MJS> show, Florian and Fritz gave shy little waves, otherwise I didn't notice any MJS> of them acknowledge the audience in any way at all. Robots to the end! MJS> AND FINALLY... MJS> Afterwards, I was chatting to a couple of fans who I'd seen before at MJS> previous shows. One told me that he's spoken to Gunther(?) from KW's crew, MJS> who told him that they were taking the show to Japan and then to Australia MJS> in Dec and Jan. Must say that this makes sense, given that they were going MJS> to play Australia at the end of the last tour. When pressed about when they MJS> would be touring more fully, Gunther said "they have to finish the album MJS> first"! Whether this is a joke or not, I've no idea, but don't hold your MJS> breath. MJS> Cheers, Staggboy. MJS> _______________________________________________ MJS> Kraftwerk mailing list MJS> Kraftwerk@mailman.xmission.com MJS> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kraftwerk -- Best regards, Electram mailto:electram@terra.com.br
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