words can not describe how i feel right now... the concert was f*cking amazing!!!!!!! this was the first time i saw them live and it were the best 2 hours of my life!!!! i can't give a set list because i'm to blown away to remember ;-), what i do remember is that they started off with a special version of expo 2000 and ended with numbers/computerword and music non stop during the concert they had some problems with their equipment (at one point i had the impression one of them was rebooting his laptop) which caused sometimes that the bass fell away and one song (i think the robots) was ended quite suddenly. so maybe they had to postpone the luxembourg concert because of that reason kraftwerk, better then sex... (or at least equal :-)) g http://www.dertaschenrechner.tk --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo!
I was there too !!!!!!!! Here's a list of songs that were played during the 2 hour concert... Expo 2000, The Model, Neon Lights, Trans Europe Europe, The Robots, Autobahn, Radioactivity, Airwaves, Homecomputer/It's more fun to compute, Pocketcalculator, The man machine, Numbers/Computerworld and finally Boing Boom Tschak/Music Non Stop (not neccessarily in that order)... ords can not describe how i feel right now... the concert was f*cking amazing!!!!!!! this was the first time i saw them live and it were the best 2 hours of my life!!!! i can't give a set list because i'm to blown away to remember ;-), what i do remember is that they started off with a special version of expo 2000 and ended with numbers/computerword and music non stop during the concert they had some problems with their equipment (at one point i had the impression one of them was rebooting his laptop) which caused sometimes that the bass fell away and one song (i think the robots) was ended quite suddenly. so maybe they had to postpone the luxembourg concert because of that reason kraftwerk, better then sex... (or at least equal :-))
Expo 2000, The Model, Neon Lights, Trans Europe Europe, The Robots, Autobahn, Radioactivity, Airwaves, Homecomputer/It's more fun to compute, Pocketcalculator, The man machine, Numbers/Computerworld and finally Boing Boom Tschak/Music Non Stop
(not neccessarily in that order)...
No new experimentations, huh? I guess that drives a nail in the coffin of new album rumors, for the near future. Was Airwaves the "extended" techno version from the '98 shows? And Neon Lights! :) What I would like to know is if, other than the setlist, things sounded any different from the 98 shows.... maybe someone on the list is lucky enough to see Kraftwerk in both 1997-98 and 2002? Hopefully, Kraftwerk will play with the setlist a little between between shows so that we get a variety, but somehow I doubt they will. ;) -Eric
No new experimentations, huh? I guess that drives a nail in the coffin of new album rumors, for the near future.
*sigh* Soooo....when can we expect mp3s of this concert, eh? :) :) :) Signed, omegaChance http://www.mp3.com/omegaChance
I'm sure it was a great concert and I'm happy that a bunch of lucky guys managed to see them for the first time on stage. The lack of any new material is disappointing... seems that they, after spending long years in transfering the same old music/data from one media to another, are now planning to spend another decade in finding new means of playing/controlling it. Probably they'll decide to develop their own operating system ;-) I would have much preferred having R&F playing just three, new, complete songs with a couple of old synths than this bug-ridden multimedia show. Ciao, Luca
I've seen them both in 2002 and 1997 (Karlsruhe). Airwaves was indeed the extended techno version, but it didn't sound exactly the same as back in 1997 (maybe this was version 0.3 beta). The experimentation part was this: No more synths on stage, only laptops (Sony Vaio), I think I've seen that at least Ralf had a keyboard in front of his laptop, the other seem to have some kind of controllers, but Ralf was definitely playing some chords sometimes... And he forgot to sing a line or two :-) and sang another couple a bit off key... Also nice was the mix of using German and English in the same song, for different verses, and of course, it was Belgium... Pocket Calculator in English and French. It did sound different, because of the problems they seemd to have with the laptops (or the Cubase SX software), sometimes certain parts of the music (mostly the bass) seemed to have disappeared, on other occasions a lead sounded like it was started a half a measure to early or late, or at a completely wrong time. But again, it wasn't really that bad, actually, it was showing us that they were actually in control of the sound, otherwise it could have been just a computer on stage, playing all the tunes. Oh yeah, they left the robots/dummies in Duesseldorf. The sound itself was massive, surround from all 4 corners of the (small) concerthall, and with deep, very deep basses. As far as I could tell, most of the sounds played were samples, but some seemed to come from softsynths, because they just sounded different from the original tracks and the previous concerts. Sometimes there was too much reverb (and it seemed to be coming from Florian, because the others were looking at him, with big questionmarks on their faces). Of course, Florian just stood there, sometimes even with both hands behind his back. I got the impression this show was a dress rehearsal for the next shows, because of all the errors that occured, but nevertheless, it was a great show. The videoclips from the 3 big beamers were very high quality, although sometimes it seems that the beamer on the right (audience view) didn't like to play along, just the left and middle were showing some things (during Autobahn). Anyway... a great concert, nice to see the old geezers again :-) Leon
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Expo 2000, The Model, Neon Lights, Trans Europe Europe, The Robots, Autobahn, Radioactivity, Airwaves, Homecomputer/It's more fun to compute, Pocketcalculator, The man machine, Numbers/Computerworld and finally Boing Boom Tschak/Music Non Stop
(not neccessarily in that order)...
No new experimentations, huh? I guess that drives a nail in the coffin of new album rumors, for the near future.
Was Airwaves the "extended" techno version from the '98 shows?
And Neon Lights! :)
What I would like to know is if, other than the setlist, things sounded any different from the 98 shows.... maybe someone on the list is lucky enough to see Kraftwerk in both 1997-98 and 2002?
Hopefully, Kraftwerk will play with the setlist a little between between shows so that we get a variety, but somehow I doubt they will. ;)
-Eric
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Great sypnosis, Leon! I take it Henning and Fritz were there as well, eh? Sony Vaio laptops...Yes, that will be my choice if I ever get to pick up a nice laptop... Signed, omegaChance http://www.mp3.com/omegaChance
Sony Vaio laptops...Yes, that will be my choice if I ever get to pick up a nice laptop...
Ewwww! I thought they were Mac heads! Anyway, I have an equipment question: there's a drum machine that has similar sounds to the Roland TR-707 but has a richer sound. Which machine is this? Peace.
le 24/09/2002 7:08, MuzikJunky à MuzikJunky@earthlink.net a écrit :
Anyway, I have an equipment question: there's a drum machine that has similar sounds to the Roland TR-707 but has a richer sound. Which machine is this? Peace.
Very difficult question, there are so many machines that sound like the Roland TR-series... - including various samplers, clones and software emulation...- Maybe the Quasimidi 309, the Jomox Airbase09, a Roland GrooveBox...or just that old good TR-808 ??? Greetings, _ /o o\ Filtre4Pole \ ~ / I I - -
Very difficult question, there are so many machines that sound like the Roland TR-series... - including various samplers, clones and software emulation...- Maybe the Quasimidi 309, the Jomox Airbase09, a Roland GrooveBox...or just that old good TR-808 ???
Definitely NOT the 808, although I think it's the greatest musical instrument ever invented! Not a Roland machine, anyway--it has "snappier" claps. Any other suggestions? Peace.
le 26/09/2002 6:48, MuzikJunky à MuzikJunky@earthlink.net a écrit :
Definitely NOT the 808, although I think it's the greatest musical instrument ever invented! Not a Roland machine, anyway--it has "snappier" claps. Any other suggestions? Peace.
Yes! ...take a visit to: http://www.vintagesynth.org/roland/707.shtml This site will provide you links to classified alternative gear (and more, if it's not enough ). The must is that you can check the sounds ( real audio demos )... Hope you'll find and identify there that so mysterious TR707-like machine! Peace. _ /o o\ Filtre4Pole \ ~ / I I - -
Leon Mols schrieb:
I was there too !!!!!!!!Here's a list of songs that were played during the 2 hour concert...Expo 2000, The Model, Neon Lights, Trans Europe Europe, The Robots, Autobahn, Radioactivity, Airwaves, Homecomputer/It's more fun to compute, Pocketcalculator, The man machine, Numbers/Computerworld and finally Boing Boom Tschak/Music Non Stop(not neccessarily in that order)...
Well, the same procedure as every year, James? 90% of this setlist is simular to their 1981 concerts. Big deal! Now when I read the setlist, I'm glad I didn't waste my money. No, not even one, new song(s), even the "tribal" song has been cancelled, plus a missing "Tour de France" and no robots. Thumbs down, both of them. Gruesse aus Wien, Georgie
oops.... Tour de France was on the setlist .... Missed that one..... I probably was too impressed :-)
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Leon Mols schrieb:
I was there too !!!!!!!!Here's a list of songs that were played during the 2 hour concert...Expo 2000, The Model, Neon Lights, Trans Europe Europe, The Robots, Autobahn, Radioactivity, Airwaves, Homecomputer/It's more fun to compute, Pocketcalculator, The man machine, Numbers/Computerworld and finally Boing Boom Tschak/Music Non Stop(not neccessarily in that order)...
Well, the same procedure as every year, James? 90% of this setlist is simular to their 1981 concerts. Big deal!
Now when I read the setlist, I'm glad I didn't waste my money.
No, not even one, new song(s), even the "tribal" song has been cancelled, plus a missing "Tour de France" and no robots. Thumbs down, both of them.
Gruesse aus Wien, Georgie
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Leon Mols schrieb:
oops.... Tour de France was on the setlist .... Missed that one.....
I probably was too impressed :-)
BTW, how were the security checks? And, please, if there is someone from belgium on the list can answer this question: Any reviews in belgium newspapers? Gruesse aus Wien, Georgie
The security checks were pretty strict, I managed to see a guy who smuggled in a camera, but the flash betrayed him... The camera was taken away... My carstereo frontpanel was looked at, so was my mobile phone, possibly to check for hidden recording devices. Leon
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Leon Mols schrieb:
oops.... Tour de France was on the setlist .... Missed that one.....
I probably was too impressed :-)
BTW, how were the security checks?
And, please, if there is someone from belgium on the list can answer this question: Any reviews in belgium newspapers?
Gruesse aus Wien, Georgie
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