From: Rick Jansen <rja@euronet.nl>

What I mean to say here is: take some music that at first glance has nothing to do with music we discuss here, and find elements that are quite alike. I'm sure you'll find something that Brahms has in common with The Beatles.

well ... some people really think that they can compare apples with oranges or ev'ry other fruit , ONLY because "fruit is fruit" , which is utterly silly & only lead to confusion & misunderstandings in the end !!! :-/ MAYBE u can even find "somethin'" that brahms has in common with the beatles ... apart from the simple fact that they both were makin' music , but i rather suggest that u wash your ears first , rick , in order to actually hear the HUGE diff'rences in their compositions !!! :-o

Would you think the "Ave Maria" (Schuberts version) has any Kraftwerk connection?

sure , because kw like schubert's music !!! *G+* ;-)

Well, I think Schubert may have used a human sequencer here, playing the same little piano melody, repeated over and over.

are u implyin' that THIS is the "connection" between schubert & kw , rick ??? :-o in that case , u could even compare EV'RY repetitive piano melody used in a "techno" track with schubert's music , which is simply ABSOLUTELY_RIDICULOUS , sorry !!! :-/ anyway ... i suppose that we TOTALLY_DISAGREE here & that ANY kind of further discussion about that topic really DOESN'T make any sense @ all ... @ least NOT for me !!! *sigh* :-o

It was about "why "music is organized noise" & a song is a song & not a track" and why Brahms-Beatles-Stockhausen-Kraftwerk comparisons may be quite valid. DO pay attention, will you dear?

"quite valid" as in UTTER_NONSENSE , sorry !!! :-/ i DO pay attention , but u are talkin' nothin' but crap here , rick !!! *sigh* :-o

Of course a guitar is a synthesizer.

excuse me please , but in what kind of "dream world" do u live then , eh ???

:-O what's next then ??? :-o comparin' ambient music with heavy metal ??? :-/ what kind of drugs are u on , mate ??? *BWG* ;-))) PLEASE get back to THE_FACTS & to a thoughtful discussion , but STOP botherin' us with such a PLAIN_NONSENSE , rick !!! :-/

It's just that the parameters are more or less fixed, unless you're Jimi Hendrix.

your "parameters" are very obviously TOTALLY_OUT_OF_CONTROL & u are also far from bein' ANYTHIN' like jimi hendrix , mate !!! :-o PLEASE_GET_REAL_AGAIN_!!! *sigh* :-o however ... greetinx , oh jay *~\^/~*