Hi all, Oh Jay, I appreciate your words of caution and bow to your knowledge of Kraftwerk media relations. However, all I stand to lose is the time it will take to claim back the 68Euros I paid for the tickets. Cite de la musique have stuck their necks out far enough (and so too have Kraftwerk) to get it chopped off. We spend our good time scribbling away about the genius of these guys; if they cancel or it is a hoax (as you keep suggesting), it would lower my estimation of them as people. Perhaps that sounds a little strong but we are not talking about an ensemble who tour regularly where disappointments often occur due to ill health or 'over-exertion' on the tour circuit (Noel Gallagher of Oasis a good example). We are talking about a group who must surely realise, that to announce a concert (which someone has at Cite de la musique) and then to retract is actually quite cruel given the long wait and sheer anticipation by the fans. Together with the pertinent points Wolgang Flur has made about their reluctance to collaborate and 'cliquey' behaviour over the years - should this concert turn out to be bullsheeze, my estimation of them would go right down. We're pragmatists here in England. I'd be interested to hear if my 80's aceeeed and 90's rave-going compadres agree with anything I've said. If you're reading this Kraftwerk; if you can't make the show don't waste our time. I'm getting too old for bullshit and there are about a 10 other bands on my wishlist that I would also like to see this year. As for the prodigy single - it may be crap but you dismiss them all too easily considering their global domination of the dance music arena with the Jilted Generation and Fat of the Land albums. Should we all dismiss KW after their Jingle, no, I think they have earned just enough credits to hold our attention a bit longer. It's a good job they made some timeless tunes. But having spent an evening in the company of The Prodigy at Brixton Academy - opening with a one-hour breakdance session with some of the dirtiest cut and paste scratch licks followed by a very loud and gloriously-received 'Smack my bitch up', it is their live performance that has shaken the music world. And 'the Prodg' play when they say they are going to play. You're a bit sensitive Oh Jay - and a bit precious about Kraftwerk. All this talk of DVD's double CD's limited edition videos from subscribers is getting to your hid mon. You're a punter just like the rest of us. If people **** you around and cancel concerts for no good reason, then treat them like they treat you. Erase them. I would not be contributing to this list if KW had already pulled the plug on a concert I had paid tickets for and they had offered no good reason. If you are right about this Paris concert, I will not be here long. Anthony
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We spend our good time scribbling away about the genius of these guys; if they cancel or it is a hoax (as you keep suggesting), it would lower my estimation of them as people.
Although I HOPE that Kraftwerk ARE to perform these concerts and also that this heralds a release of new material, in any form, I must admit to having doubts. Though if those concerts were for a venue in the UK I would have already obtained one ;o). Being a Kraftwerk fan ensures your emotions go on a rather large roller coaster! ;o)) Please remember that at this stage we do not know if this is KRAFTWERK who have been involved in the setting up of these concerts... it could be a hoax by others... we all remember that SHORT INTRODUCTION TO KRAFTWERK CD.. don't we? So if it turns out to not happen don't automatically assume that KRAFTWERK are to blame. Keep Werking John www.keepwerking.co.uk
France is worth the trip, anyway. I was just there in October; didn't even think about any kind of Kraftwerk. Go for it. amir anthony.ristic@btopenworld.com wrote:
Hi all,
Oh Jay, I appreciate your words of caution and bow to your knowledge of Kraftwerk media relations.
However, all I stand to lose is the time it will take to claim back the 68Euros I paid for the tickets. Cite de la musique have stuck their necks out far enough (and so too have Kraftwerk) to get it chopped off.
We spend our good time scribbling away about the genius of these guys; if they cancel or it is a hoax (as you keep suggesting), it would lower my estimation of them as people. Perhaps that sounds a little strong but we are not talking about an ensemble who tour regularly where disappointments often occur due to ill health or 'over-exertion' on the tour circuit (Noel Gallagher of Oasis a good example).
We are talking about a group who must surely realise, that to announce a concert (which someone has at Cite de la musique) and then to retract is actually quite cruel given the long wait and sheer anticipation by the fans.
Together with the pertinent points Wolgang Flur has made about their reluctance to collaborate and 'cliquey' behaviour over the years - should this concert turn out to be bullsheeze, my estimation of them would go right down.
We're pragmatists here in England. I'd be interested to hear if my 80's aceeeed and 90's rave-going compadres agree with anything I've said.
If you're reading this Kraftwerk; if you can't make the show don't waste our time. I'm getting too old for bullshit and there are about a 10 other bands on my wishlist that I would also like to see this year.
As for the prodigy single - it may be crap but you dismiss them all too easily considering their global domination of the dance music arena with the Jilted Generation and Fat of the Land albums. Should we all dismiss KW after their Jingle, no, I think they have earned just enough credits to hold our attention a bit longer. It's a good job they made some timeless tunes.
But having spent an evening in the company of The Prodigy at Brixton Academy - opening with a one-hour breakdance session with some of the dirtiest cut and paste scratch licks followed by a very loud and gloriously-received 'Smack my bitch up', it is their live performance that has shaken the music world. And 'the Prodg' play when they say they are going to play.
You're a bit sensitive Oh Jay - and a bit precious about Kraftwerk. All this talk of DVD's double CD's limited edition videos from subscribers is getting to your hid mon. You're a punter just like the rest of us. If people **** you around and cancel concerts for no good reason, then treat them like they treat you. Erase them.
I would not be contributing to this list if KW had already pulled the plug on a concert I had paid tickets for and they had offered no good reason.
If you are right about this Paris concert, I will not be here long.
Anthony
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