i think that peo was mostly right with what he assumed in his message about analog vs. digital !!! *sigh* :-o after kw finished their sessions for the "electric cafe" album in n. y. c. , they headed back to their safe kling klang studio in d-dorf to start upgradin' / updatin' it with the newest & best digital equipment the market @ that time has to offer ... & spend WAY_TOO_MANY_TIME on doin' jus' this , than to actually werk on some really new material ... & not jus' on their new digital versions of their ol' traxxx to release "the mix" album in 1991 !!! :-/ that's also one of the main reasons , why wolfgang ( who's contribution simply wasn't necessary anymore ... as the percussion player that he jus' was ... in ralf & florian's minds !!! :-/ ) & karl ( who's a creative person with his very own ideas ... but with not so much patience & inclination to upgrade / update the kling klang studio with digital equipment , than to werk on new songs instead !!! ;-) & also emil ( who was completely "unimportant" in the upgrade / update process !!! :-o ) become practically "unemployed" members of kw @ that time !!! :-/ what kw really needed durin' this process were some skilled sound engineers like fritz & henning ... & that's also the main reason , why those two became kw's new "employees" in the end ... & wolfi , karl & emil became "useless" for ralf & florian !!! *sigh* :-o anyway ... i still suppose that kw use A_LOT of older or even newer analog equipment ... like the doepfer instruments - only for example !!! *sly_grin* ;-) however ... many greetinx , oh jay ;-) ~*~ jvr network program - june 2002 : http://mitglied.lycos.de/cybernetx/program.html ( incl. live stream via internet ) studio webcam - live : http://stream.ok-bremen.de/studio.html radio show archive : http://friends.schallreflektor.com/ohjay/alien_disco playlist archive : http://mitglied.lycos.de/cybernetx/playlists brand new website release soon @ http://www.jointventureradio.net & also http://www.jointventureradio.org *~\^/~*
Oh Jay wrote:
after kw finished their sessions for the "electric cafe" album in n. y. c. , they headed back to their safe kling klang studio in d-dorf to start upgradin' / updatin' it with the newest & best digital equipment the market @ that time has to offer ... & spend WAY_TOO_MANY_TIME on doin' jus' this , than to actually werk on some really new material ... & not jus' on their new digital versions of their ol' traxxx to release "the mix" album in 1991 !!! :-/
The reason for this may also be that..They were able to! Face it, once artists become famous and rich, they no longer have to produce, and it's very easy to get caught in the "playing around"-process, just like ol' Ralfie and Flori have...
that's also one of the main reasons , why wolfgang ( who's contribution simply wasn't necessary anymore ... as the percussion player that he jus' was ... in ralf & florian's minds !!! :-/ ) & karl ( who's a creative person with his very own ideas ... but with not so much patience & inclination to upgrade / update the kling klang studio with digital equipment , than to werk on new songs instead !!! ;-) & also emil ( who was completely "unimportant" in the upgrade / update process !!! :-o ) become practically "unemployed" members of kw @ that time !!! :-/
Yep, I totally agree on that.
what kw really needed durin' this process were some skilled sound engineers like fritz & henning ... & that's also the main reason , why those two became kw's new "employees" in the end ... & wolfi , karl & emil became "useless" for ralf & florian !!! *sigh* :-o
I think what KW really needs is to throw out all equipment, become poor again, be forced to fight for a record contract, i.e. be pushed into making new records again. Unless something like that happens we'll never hear from them again. When old people get stuck, they tend to get STUCK.
anyway ... i still suppose that kw use A_LOT of older or even newer analog equipment ... like the doepfer instruments - only for example !!! *sly_grin* ;-)
I don't think so, actually. I'm pretty certain it's all computers these days. Cheers, Peo
~ -----Original Message----- ~ From: kraftwerk-admin@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:kraftwerk- ~ admin@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Per-Olof Karlsson ~ Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2002 7:02 AM ~ To: kraftwerk@mailman.xmission.com ~ Subject: Re: [Kraftwerk] Re: Analog vs. Digital ~ ~ I don't think so, actually. I'm pretty certain it's all computers these ~ days. ~ ~ Cheers, ~ Peo Not exactly. Even though computer software synthesizers can do amazing things like the analog modular systems can they still have a different sound. Really good analog synths, like Doepfer A100, Alesis Andromeda 6 and all the other new modular systems sound a lot better then digital. They both have there own strengths though and Kraftwerk has the best of both worlds!!!! ;) Take a look at there equipment used on the last tour... way back when!! LOL I know they like to be on the cutting edge of the music industry so they'll have both!! :D So, there's some things digital synths can do what analog can't and there's things analog can do that digital can't...... when it comes to sound fat and rich!!! I have synthesizers that are part digital and part analog. They sound really phat!!!! ;) Analog has a smoother, rich sound but with older analog synths... they were unpredictable and unstable. Their oscillator tuning would drift as well as filters would go out of tune. Digital synths have come a long way especially with Waldorf's Q..... One of the programmers for Waldorf came up with one of THE BEST FILTERS yet on a digital synth. It was modeled from the older PPG Wave 2.2 and 2.3 (((which Gary Numen used A LOT))) Digital synths are a lot more stable and actually stay in tune!!! ;) Even R & F use some Waldorf equipment.. the Microwave 1.... both digital and analog. (((I have one too heh heh ))) I'm sure R & F are "gear junkies" just like the rest of musicians are!!! ;) Regards, Christian Claycomb UniQue Werkx http://www.ampcast.com/uniquewerkx http://www.mp3.com/christianac http://www.soundclick.com/bands/uniquewerkx_music.htm http://stage.vitaminic.co.uk/unique_werkx/
~ ~ I don't think so, actually. I'm pretty certain it's all computers these ~ days. ~ ~ Cheers, ~ Peo
Not exactly. Even though computer software synthesizers can do amazing things like the analog modular systems can they still have a different sound. Really good analog synths, like Doepfer A100, Alesis Andromeda 6 and all the other new modular systems sound a lot better then digital. They both have there own strengths though and Kraftwerk has the best of both worlds!!!! ;) Take a look at there equipment used on the last tour... way back when!! LOL I know they like to be on the cutting edge of the music industry so they'll have both!! :D
So, there's some things digital synths can do what analog can't and there's things analog can do that digital can't...... when it comes to sound fat and rich!!! I have synthesizers that are part digital and part analog. They sound really phat!!!! ;) Analog has a smoother, rich sound but with older analog synths... they were unpredictable and unstable. Their oscillator tuning would drift as well as filters would go out of tune.
Digital synths have come a long way especially with Waldorf's Q..... One of the programmers for Waldorf came up with one of THE BEST FILTERS yet on a digital synth. It was modeled from the older PPG Wave 2.2 and 2.3 (((which Gary Numen used A LOT))) Digital synths are a lot more stable and actually stay in tune!!! ;) Even R & F use some Waldorf equipment.. the Microwave 1.... both digital and analog. (((I have one too heh heh )))
I'm sure R & F are "gear junkies" just like the rest of musicians are!!! ;)
Regards, Christian Claycomb
Hehe, thanks for an educative reply Christian :) If what you're saying is true then there may still be some hope! I just had a bad digital moment.. I can't for the world in me believe why everybody is so hooked up on digital crap when it's so obviously inferior in most ways ,) Cheers, Peo
With technology gaining faster, more and more people (to now, anyone can) make decent electronic music effortlessly, when at that time it took some time to make it sound good. Digital killed the Analog stars? Signed, omegaChance http://www.mp3.com/omegaChance
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