Re: Re: Re: [Kraftwerk] acetate (Autobahn tape)
Conny Plank used a Scully tape machine with 7.5 ips and 15 ips. He had two of these machines. He prefered 7.5 ips. It was recorded without noise reduction. Dirk Matten kraftwerk@mailman.xmission.com schrieb am 29.03.02:
It's not a copy of the master, it's the generation before the master-tape, which has single ended noise reduction.
Just curious:
What tape machine and what brand of tape was used for the original recording? I understand from your website that your copy is 7.5 ips 2-track, but how was the music originally recorded? 15 ips multi-track? Who decided that a noise reducing aftertreatment was necessary, and why wasn't Dolby A or something like this used in the first place (Not that I'm a great admirer of companders.)?
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Conny Plank used a Scully tape machine with 7.5 ips and 15 ips.
These were very nice sounding machines, indeed.
He had two of these machines. He prefered 7.5 ips.
Now that's interesting. I often heard engineers preferred 15 ips over 30 because of a tighter bass sound but never heard that 7.5 ips is even better. Maybe this is also a matter of personal taste and the particular machine involved.
It was recorded without noise reduction.
All the better. Anyway, thanks for the info.
Markus Berzborn <markus.berzborn@t-online.de> wrote:
Now that's interesting. I often heard engineers preferred 15 ips over 30 because of a tighter bass sound but never heard that 7.5 ips is even better. Maybe this is also a matter of personal taste and the particular machine involved.
Or a matter of economics? Record at half the speed and you have double the amount of tape! K
Markus Berzborn schrieb am 29.03.2002 21:35 Uhr MEZ:
Or a matter of economics? Record at half the speed and you have double the amount of tape!
Sure, but for a professional studio, this shouldn't be an issue!
Oh-oh, don't forget: Kraftwerk had no money at that time. Conny Plank was not their engineer, he was the producer of Autobahn, so probably it was HIS money they spent! jan _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Or a matter of economics? Record at half the speed and you have double the amount of tape!
Sure, but for a professional studio, this shouldn't be an issue!
Oh-oh, don't forget: Kraftwerk had no money at that time. Conny Plank was not their engineer, he was the producer of Autobahn, so probably it was HIS money they spent!
Oh, come on, that would mean that Conny Plank was on the verge of bankruptcy, wouldn't it. I don't know the open reel tape price in 1974, but with a high quality tape (say Maxell XL-1) today, I'd just save about 20 Euros by reducing the speed. And if this was an issue, I wouldn't even be able to offer some cups of coffee to the musicians in the studio. But maybe you're right, I can't verify it as I wasn't there - it just seems to me that what Dirk meant was that Conny Plank chose 7.5 ips for sonic reasons.
btw, everyone know that R & F's parents are very rich, so surely if they can offer them Minimoog etc. they can pay for the tapes. I don't think the sales of KW's first two LP's were so high to allow them to buy the Klinklang room + all their equipement. On Sat, 30 Mar 2002 10:43:00 +0100, Markus Berzborn wrote:
Or a matter of economics? Record at half the speed and you have double the amount of tape!
Sure, but for a professional studio, this shouldn't be an issue!
Oh-oh, don't forget: Kraftwerk had no money at that time. Conny Plank was not their engineer, he was the producer of Autobahn, so probably it was HIS money they spent!
Oh, come on, that would mean that Conny Plank was on the verge of bankruptcy, wouldn't it. I don't know the open reel tape price in 1974, but with a high quality tape (say Maxell XL-1) today, I'd just save about 20 Euros by reducing the speed. And if this was an issue, I wouldn't even be able to offer some cups of coffee to the musicians in the studio. But maybe you're right, I can't verify it as I wasn't there - it just seems to me that what Dirk meant was that Conny Plank chose 7.5 ips for sonic reasons.
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Markus Berzborn schrieb am 30.03.2002 10:43 Uhr MEZ:
I don't know the open reel tape price in 1974, but with a high quality tape (say Maxell XL-1) today, I'd just save about 20 Euros by reducing the speed.
Okay, I wasn't there, too. But around 1973 I jobbed in a recording studio as a trainee, and I remember quite well that this professional tape was not the kind of tape you can buy at Karstadt's. I don't remember the prices for professional 16-track-tape, but according to an interview with Heinz-Gerd Lütticke from the mid-seventies (he was then independent producer and promoter after leaving EMI), the price of a master tape ranged around 500 Deutschmarks - and these tapes didn't run 45 minutes, so you needed five or six of those to make a complete album. swingin' eastern! jan -- feel free to visit http://home.t-online.de/home/reetze http://www.felix-bloch-erben.de _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
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