Sorry guys, I traveled and could not rerad the digests. And now I have 23 digest of KW list. I'm only on the second and discovered that the flame battles returned to the list. I remember, long time ago, we all had a flame battle (including me) with Oh Jay. I unsubscribed that time. I think now many people will do it. Did you think of new members that saw it? They will never return and we will never have new members. I would not discuss about the topics of that and this time, but IMHO the responsible for all this shit is Oh Jay. He NEVER think that's another points of view here. Or probably he's the owner of this list? By the way, who is the moderator of this list? Please a name, because we have to know who can make a big decision. Who should be banned? Eduardo or Oh Jay? Both of them? I really don't know. Worser than have selling on this list is have falme battles. We have more to do than read this kind of shit. Would like to flame? Go to the private mails, please, as I said the other time... Sorry if the list already decided this flame battle. The messages I read are from two weeks ago, I know, but I could not be silent with so violent comments made by Oh Jay. I have a personal point of view about him, but it's mine. I will not discuss about it on this list. Sorry again if this topic is not on the list anymore. I have still 21 digests to read, and I'm really tired with it. I would like to read here nice information about our band, not children fighting about nothing. I have two boys (5 and 11 years) and THEY fight for nothing. Not adults. And please, don't answer this one. It's just my point of view. I would not start a new battle. PEACE!! Nicolau www.kraftworld.hpg.com.br PS - By the way, Oh Jay. please don't make comments about people who don't write a good english. Most of us are from non english countries, and I would not like to have that kind of comments. If your english is better than the others, keep it with you. Otherwise, you don't speak one word in portuguese, and I don't make jokes with you about it. PEACE AGAIN
dear mr. centola , this time , i'm NOT_AT_ALL interested in discussin' about ANYTHIN' that u've written in your message below about me , because i jus' consider it a waste of time & energy ... & i really have better things to do than debatin' endlessly with people like u , who simply WON'T understand me & my position !!! :-/ fyi : i'm NOT the owner nor a moderator of this list , BUT the founder & one of the moderators of the kraftwerkfans yahoo! group !!! btw : i'm also NOT_AT_ALL interested in ruminatin' my position about that eduardo guy , who's also from brazil , because i've finally & FOREVER chosen NOT to talk to people like him EVER again ... for reasons concernin' my personal health , because ALL that i've got from such silly "discussions" are really bad headaches & stomach aches !!! *sigh* :-o hopefully u , eduardo & maybe also others will RESPECT my decision NOT to talk to them NEITHER_ON_NOR_OFF_LIST about ANYTHIN' like this again !!! I'M_DONE_WITH_IT_!!! FINALLY_&_FOREVER_!!! PLEASE_TRY_TO_RESPECT_THAT , okay ??? however ... FAREWELL , mr. centola !!! oh jay *~\^/~* From: "Nicolau Centola" <ncentola@terra.com.br>
Sorry guys,
I traveled and could not rerad the digests. And now I have 23 digest of KW list. I'm only on the second and discovered that the flame battles returned to the list. I remember, long time ago, we all had a flame battle (including me) with Oh Jay. I unsubscribed that time. I think now many people will do it. Did you think of new members that saw it? They will never return and we will never have new members.
I would not discuss about the topics of that and this time, but IMHO the responsible for all this shit is Oh Jay. He NEVER think that's another points of view here. Or probably he's the owner of this list? By the way, who is the moderator of this list? Please a name, because we have to know who can make a big decision. Who should be banned? Eduardo or Oh Jay? Both of them? I really don't know. Worser than have selling on this list is have falme battles. We have more to do than read this kind of shit. Would like to flame? Go to the private mails, please, as I said the other time...
Sorry if the list already decided this flame battle. The messages I read are from two weeks ago, I know, but I could not be silent with so violent comments made by Oh Jay. I have a personal point of view about him, but it's mine. I will not discuss about it on this list. Sorry again if this topic is not on the list anymore.
I have still 21 digests to read, and I'm really tired with it. I would like to read here nice information about our band, not children fighting about nothing. I have two boys (5 and 11 years) and THEY fight for nothing. Not adults.
And please, don't answer this one. It's just my point of view. I would not start a new battle.
PEACE!!
Nicolau www.kraftworld.hpg.com.br
PS - By the way, Oh Jay. please don't make comments about people who don't write a good english. Most of us are from non english countries, and I would not like to have that kind of comments. If your english is better than the others, keep it with you. Otherwise, you don't speak one word in portuguese, and I don't make jokes with you about it.
PEACE AGAIN
Dear Mr Oh Jay, It's not my intended to talk about this topic too. If you read carefully my message, I just put my point of view to the list, because I got about 20 digests with the same topic. I'm on the list to talk about KW, not to read about any other topic, and the worst, read personal attacks from both sides. Private mail is the correct form to make personal attacks. Not on the list. We don't have to read this. Thanks. Of course I understand you and your point of view. Again, if you read carefully again my first message, you will see I'm not in any side of this discussion. It's not because I'm also from Brazil that I will agree with Mr. Eduardo. I don't. Actually, I consider this kind of discussion, about bootlegs, a kindergarden subject. I will not talk about it anymore. Each one has a point of view, and I'm not good enough to impose my point of view to anyone. Of course I respect your decision to not talk about it anymore, private or on the list. Again, read carefully my message, I didn't write my message for you or for your answer. I just HAD to put MY point of view, because I got home and had 20 digests with the same topic. I have more to do with my private time, and I work with Internet. My address is for business and personal purposes. So, have that kind of shit pissed me off. Finally, I'm writing this one for your personal address AND for the list just because you sent it this way. So please, don't answer it, private or to the list. This is the final tear on flame battles on KW list. This is sincerely what I want. Again, PEACE for all! Nicolau PS - Language is a virus. Thanks Mr Burroughs... ----- Original Message ----- From: Oh Jay To: kraftwerk@mailman.xmission.com Cc: ncentola@terra.com.br Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2002 3:13 PM Subject: Re: [Kraftwerk] Here we go again dear mr. centola , this time , i'm NOT_AT_ALL interested in discussin' about ANYTHIN' that u've written in your message below about me , because i jus' consider it a waste of time & energy ... & i really have better things to do than debatin' endlessly with people like u , who simply WON'T understand me & my position !!! :-/ fyi : i'm NOT the owner nor a moderator of this list , BUT the founder & one of the moderators of the kraftwerkfans yahoo! group !!! btw : i'm also NOT_AT_ALL interested in ruminatin' my position about that eduardo guy , who's also from brazil , because i've finally & FOREVER chosen NOT to talk to people like him EVER again ... for reasons concernin' my personal health , because ALL that i've got from such silly "discussions" are really bad headaches & stomach aches !!! *sigh* :-o hopefully u , eduardo & maybe also others will RESPECT my decision NOT to talk to them NEITHER_ON_NOR_OFF_LIST about ANYTHIN' like this again !!! I'M_DONE_WITH_IT_!!! FINALLY_&_FOREVER_!!! PLEASE_TRY_TO_RESPECT_THAT , okay ??? however ... FAREWELL , mr. centola !!! oh jay *~\^/~*
Nicolau Centola <ncentola@terra.com.br> wrote:
By the way, who is the moderator of this list? Please a name, because we have to know who can make a big decision.
See http://www.studio-nibble.com/lists/guidelines.html (this is also linked to from my FAQ at http://www.kraftwerkFAQ.com, if that is easier to remember). On 2nd January 2002, Ernie Longmire <lazlo@studio-nibble.com> wrote:
The new admin UI will make my admin job easier which should improve the level of service you get as subscribers as well as let me spend more time participating again.
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Feel free to post or email if you have any questions or concerns. Hope you all enjoy the improvements!
So, Nicolau, if you do want to ask the list owner anything, please let us know if he is now replying to emails.
I have still 21 digests to read, and I'm really tired with it. I would like to read here nice information about our band, not children fighting about nothing. I have two boys (5 and 11 years) and THEY fight for nothing. Not adults.
Until such time as the list owner also starts actively supervising or moderating the list, the answer is to filter out messages from "undesirables" in your email reader. I "killfiled" (to use the old- fashioned term) just one email address a few months ago, and the list became endurable again. I hope this helps. Best Kevin (FAQ maintainer, but not the list maintainer!)
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