hi Because this list does not have owner ( http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kraftwerk ) and there is problem with the subscription a brand new international mailinglist has been established. See the details at http://kraftwerk.hu/antenna/ ( http://www.kraftwerk.hu/antenna/ ) Direct link: http://www.activerecord.com/mailman/listinfo/kraftwerk The new international Kraftwerk mailinglist is intented to be an effective, cheap and comfortable connection between the Kraftwerk fans from all over the world. Please, join the new list. It has owner (who takes care about it), can be moderated and, of course, has easy subscription. The founder of the new list has tried to contact Lazlo(?) several times but no answer... Nobody can subscribe / is allowed to subsrcribe. It is impossible 'to be IN' this list... (nonsense...) There may be a 'dozen of KW fans' who would like to share their free opinion. This is why we need it. Thank you and waiting for your subscription! best rgds, Powerplant