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Tango name
by ncentola 04 Oct '02

04 Oct '02

There´s no official name for tango. As you can see at http://www.kraftworld.hpg.ig.com.br/concerts/98rjsetlist.html KW consider Airwaves/Tango song just as Airwaves. Of course, just the intro is Airwaves, the rest is a completely new song. IMHO they don´t have a name for it at that moment. Anyone had access to an official set list from Paris? Maybe they named this song now. A good indication that KW will release a new album is put name on the songs, don´t you think? :-) peace Nicolau www.kraftworld.hpg.com.br > Where does the name Tango (name of the Airwave techno extension) came = > from ? > > Is this an official name or only a fan choice ?

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Re: [Kraftwerk] Guenther Spachtholz
by Tomek 04 Oct '02

04 Oct '02

> > You remember correctly! I have Guenther's autograph "Guenther Video" > > wouldn't it sound much better "guenther salesman"? *rotflol* ;-))) > > *hehe* > > > however (stolen from oh jay *rofl*) > > best wishes from the rhineland > > arthur "Guenther Video" "Geunther salesman" Other version: Guenther KW'Babysitter or KW'mother *hehe* Tomek

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Another lucky french :)
by I've got a LASER, Earthman! 04 Oct '02

04 Oct '02

Hello everyone :) I was at the 2 first concerts in Paris (wasn't at the 3rd one only because I was bringing with me my ex-boyfriend and a good friend of mine alog on the thursday -my life in 4657 volumes) I browsed the archive and I have a few remarks to add : - stereo was a mess in both events :( - Ralf was using is hand I think mostly because he had troubles with the mic picking up the grappe of the sound system just near him. - Florian was much more alive at Frankfurt MusikMesse ;) (I was one of the people exhibiting on the "superbooth" -superbooth.com for 2 pics of Florian) - the engineer at the console had lots of trouble to cope with the audio coming in, the final mix was blurry, one satellite on thursday evening (level of the 2nd balcony, right side, middle) was out and scratching horribly during 4 song (at last the guy managed to diminished the whole thing) -On thursday there was JPG and JMJ (sigh, he's not dead :( ) in the beautiful people, the wednesday there was Jack Lang ex minister of culture and other thing who is always showing himself as he was still in charge. But on the reality side, he never made much for electronic music. (others still, but the little world of the gay club scene is not that interesting ;) -On the hardware stuff, i'm wondering what were the 2 big "cubes" behind the stage they were standing on. Returns seemed to be on the corners of the scene on front (the guys here who were screaming near the security can maybe tell if it was the case) -The album haha when it was announced officially 2 years ago and regularly postponed the french magazine TRAX was in the end making fun of it. Maybe If I can see Florian next Messe, I'll try to ask. -Next saturday I go to a gay monthly club here KABP, one of the organizers was also working for the Villette Numérique, I'll look after some news he can have, he's a die hard fan too :) -The guys in man machine shirts on wednesday, you were great! :) Well, it was the first time I could see them live, and I ENJOYED that a lot :) whatever the technical problems (burn Steinberg burn ;) Denis D)

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Concert intro noodle
by Enrique Correa 04 Oct '02

04 Oct '02

Der Automat wrote: > Please let me add that the intro was the same of http://www.kraftwerk.com. Denis replied: >> As I said: not exactly >> web = loop (for size reasons) >> intro = noodle (not quite repetitive) Could any concert goer make a connection between that intro and the last track of the E2K remix EP? Enrique

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Re: [Kraftwerk] first Paris Gig
by Der Automat 04 Oct '02

04 Oct '02

daniel doppler wrote: > first on the stage there were only 4 keybords and 4 laptops over I did only see 1 keyboard (HALion) in Ralf's place. > - 7 : the model - stage white - classic 50' film with with added images to the classic video-clip. > - 10 : airwaves and tribal - green Definitely no Tribal, just Airwaves. Oscilloscope(s) signals at the videoscreen. > I've not recognized the two other members of the band, it seems that > they have not a lot of work to do. They were Henning Schmitz and Fritz Hilpert, afaik. Please let me add that the intro was the same of http://www.kraftwerk.com. And a curiosity: At the beginning of Tour de France rendition appeared the cover of the record itself with the faces of both Wolfgang Fluer and Karl Bartos. I could be wrong, but it seems to me that a blurred image of Elektric Music's TV's cover record could be seeing at the videoscreen when Pocket Calculator played. BTW, during Autobahn, we saw some of Emil Schult's pictures but not the Emil's signature itself. DER AUTOMAT

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Re: [Kraftwerk] kraftwerk@vooruit,Gent
by Enrique Correa 04 Oct '02

04 Oct '02

Luca wrote: > The lack of any new material is disappointing... seems that they, > after spending long years in transfering the same old music/data > from one media to another, are now planning to spend another > decade in finding new means of playing/controlling it. Probably > they'll decide to develop their own operating system ;-) When you spend twenty years reprogramming / remaking old songs, something is wrong, and for what I've seen, there's no stop to this "modernization" of KW tunes. They are just obsessed with this task. This only tells me one thing, they are not, nor will ever be, completely satisfied with Kling Klang's output. They gave birth to some truly unbelievable tunes, and instead of leaving them alone, they just keep coming back to them and do surgery and manipulation where none is really needed. Enrique

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Re: [Kraftwerk] Guenther Spachtholz
by Tomek 04 Oct '02

04 Oct '02

> Somebody asked: > > Did any of the members (Fritz?) change some discs during the show? > Tomek replied: > >> Fritz? Och, no! Guenther "Video" Spachtholz > > If I remember correctly, this Guenther guy is the same one that takes > care > of the Kling Klang merchandising, in other words, he is the ones who > receives the order, packs it in neatly and ships it to your door. > Enrique You remember correctly! I have Guenther's autograph "Guenther Video" :-) Fantomasz prezentuje Kraftwerk - Hallo form Poland Tomek

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Re: [Kraftwerk] KW in Paris
by Der Automat 04 Oct '02

04 Oct '02

Georg Jajus <Georgie(a)blackbox.net> wrote: > To all people from france on the list: Could you please post if there are > some reviews in newspapers or so? Tiny ad (with photo of the robots) of the concerts at the French weekly magazine Les Inrockuptibles nº 357 (25 September - 1 October), page 15. http://www1.lesinrocks.com/ DER AUTOMAT

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Seriously Jealous
by Tom 04 Oct '02

04 Oct '02

Glad to hear the concert was fun. Also happy to hear the songs are changing and there are interesting new tech glitches. It make the Robots so much more human. No humor on the list? I'm not sure about that, it is usually entertaining. One off topic question. Why do people think Stella Artois is such a good beer? I've had it in bottles and draft here in the states and I was not impressed. There are about 1000 better beers in Europe to drink than that. Am I missing something? Tom

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Re: Two more questions on the Paris show...
by Enrique Correa 04 Oct '02

04 Oct '02

newpower(a)interlog.com wrote: > The refinement and further mechanization/computerization of Kraftwerk is > exactly what they said they wanted to do for years. Do you need a new > interview to explain? It's all in their lyrics: > "I programme my home computer > Beam myself into the future" > They plan to do things they couldn't do yesterday. Their man/machine project > is still the most relevant thing going. And with so many musical clones out > there more musical statements aren't really necessary. It's a Kraftwerk world > and you're living in it. KW were amongst the few who envisioned a computer world, and yet, spent years just trying to catch up to it. Enrique

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