July 2003 - Kraftwerk - mailman.xmission.com

The Mix! Is it an origianl album or not?
by ian tyson 29 Jul '03

29 Jul '03

> > > > >>"First new album in 17 years", people who say that have absolutely no > > >>clue... > > > > >What do you mean? The Mix was a remix compilation, not "a new album" as > > >such. You say the article is wrong about that? > > > > In my humble opinion The Mix was certainly a "new album". It is more >than >a > > simple remix compilation. A remix album is usually a producers reworking >of > > master recordings. I think of The Mix as a concept album. An > > interpretation of KW by KW themselves (KW through the looking glass!). >The > > album may use previous compositions, but it is digital rerecordings >creating > > new sounds by the artists themselves. I think that concept has been >lost >on > > a lot of people. > >I think you are over-interpretating too much. The Mix has no new >compositions on it, and that is what matter to the simplified thinking of a >music journalist. "A lot of people" is not who we talk about here, but the >general press, who need to simplify matters for the general audience. Thus, >The Mix does not count as a "new album", no matter how much artistic merit >you think went into it. >glenn Yes Glenn I agree with what you say. I did say that I "would not like to say the article was wrong" I just had my own view. My little essay was for the KW mailing list and not for the "general audience" fed by the "simplified thinking of the music journalist". I really don't care what the music press say, I don't really like pop/rock music anyway and I think KW are well above what goes on in that environment. Just wondered if the dedicated KW observers shared my point of view, "a lot of people" reffered to a lot of the KW mailing list. I wouldn't expect the readers of the general music press to accept my indepth or over-interpetion of KW (or any other music group for that mater). And probably "a lot of people" on the KW list will think I've got head up Herr Hutters arse as well. But hell I only ever write to the list every four years so (and I usually inadvertantly end up creating a flame war as well). So anyway I agree with both of you. It just depends in whether you are part of the "general audiance" or true kw enthusiasts I suppose. ian t .k _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail messages direct to your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile

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RE: [Kraftwerk] My first impression of Tour de France Soundtracks
by Enrique Correa 28 Jul '03

28 Jul '03

somebody in the list whispered: > ...put a low quality Mp3s (in dont want promote piracy) > in your ftp server... and Joakim firmly replied: >> Sorry, but I don't think that would be very wise. Thank you for taking that approach, Joakim. I would like to hear that album as much as everybody here, but I don't want to do it via file sharing. I will wait patiently. A few more days are nothing compared with the many years of waiting since their last album. I live in the USA, and the scheduled release here is August 19th, so the best and fastest thing for me to do was ordered it online through amazon.uk, where the scheduled release is much sooner. I've paid a few extra dollars, but a new KW release is worth it. The one criticism I have about these release dates is that I don't understand why they don't release the record simultaneously worldwide. That would of cut down piracy a bit. E

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TdF Soundtracks
by Tomasz Kirmuc 28 Jul '03

28 Jul '03

Today I had the chance to hear the entire album (it was promotional copy with cat. number KW3 available only for journalists). The good news is that the whole album is 57:02 minutes long (which is not topical in case of Kraftwerk). As mentioned before: it's concept album - the sub-title 'Soundtracks' gives good impression what you might expect. It all sounds like (e.g.) real soundtrack for some movie about Tour de France or cycling. And I also feel the presence of this 'romantic' spice which I liked from TEE. Already known 'Vitamin' has good hit potential. I hope it will be released as another single and wih accompaning video-clip (on heavy rotation on MTV & VIVA :-) For those who have the disc already: could you please check Track 5 (Chrono) at 00:39-00:40. It seems there is some mastering-error at this point (I hope the 'retail' version will be OK). One thing I regret: the three 'new' tracks from 1997 have gone somewhere. I hope they are not vanished completely, as they were logical bridge between 'old' and recent Kraftwerk. We all have been waiting for this for so many years - it's great to finally have new album from THEM. This music is step forward for me. Ralf & Florian: besten Dank! It's quite good album! All Werkers: please go to shop around the corner and buy the album as soon as it's released! It's worth of it (I'm going to buy it in both: vinyl and CD version - I have strange feeling that it will sound even better pressed on good_old_analogue_vinyl_long_play). And I keep my fingers crossed for another European tournee soon! TK

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Kraftwerk: VH1.com/Sonicnet Artist Update - 07/22/03
by Der Automat 28 Jul '03

28 Jul '03

From: VH1.com/Sonicnet <3-6262-29-188-automat=offcampus.net(a)reply.vh1agent.com>: ARTIST UPDATE: KRAFTWERK JULY 22, 2003 Hello Der Automat, As requested, here is your VH1.com Artist Update for Kraftwerk. ALBUMS Check out this new album from Kraftwerk! Tour De France 03 * Release date: 07.22.03 Label: Astralwerks http://www.vh1.com/partners/redirects/ns_redirect.jhtml?url=/artists/az/kraf twerk/348919/album.jhtml&pid=29&mjid=6262 See all Kraftwerk albums: http://www.vh1.com/partners/redirects/ns_redirect.jhtml?url=/artists/az/kraf twerk/albums.jhtml#albums_anchor&pid=29&mjid=6262 RADIO VH1 Say It Loud (Black History) A soundtrack for freedom and equality, featuring the songs and voices of black history. For more coverage of Black Music Month, please visit VH1.com's Say It Loud area. http://www.vh1.com/partners/redirects/ns_redirect.jhtml?url=/music/radio/sta tions/say_it_loud/station.jhtml&pid=29&mjid=6262 IDM (Leftfield Techno) Intelligent dance music, experimental techno, and assorted bleeps for armchair listening. http://www.vh1.com/partners/redirects/ns_redirect.jhtml?url=/music/radio/sta tions/idm/station.jhtml&pid=29&mjid=6262 See all Radio VH1 stations that play Kraftwerk: http://www.vh1.com/partners/redirects/ns_redirect.jhtml?url=/artists/az/kraf twerk/radio_list.jhtml&pid=29&mjid=6262 RELATED LINKS Kraftwerk Artist Main Page http://www.vh1.com/partners/redirects/ns_redirect.jhtml?url=/artists/az/kraf twerk/artist.jhtml&pid=29&mjid=6262 © 2002 MTV Networks DER AUTOMAT

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Elektrokardiogramm
by Svensson, Joakim 28 Jul '03

28 Jul '03

Did anybody on the lists hear (and perhaps record) this? I'm just very curious about what it'll sound like. Beside that - what's the deal with KW and Spain? TdF 2003 was also - as far as I know - first aired in Spain. Joakim -----Original Message----- ...Julian Ruiz played "Elektrokardiogramm" from the forthcoming Kraftwerk album... This message contains information that may be privileged or confidential and is the property of the Cap Gemini Ernst & Young Group. It is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are not authorized to read, print, retain, copy, disseminate, distribute, or use this message or any part thereof. If you receive this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete all copies of this message.

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RE: [Kraftwerk] My first impression of Tour de France Soundtracks
by Svensson, Joakim 28 Jul '03

28 Jul '03

Sorry, but I don't think that would be very wise. I really would not like to risk any sales for KW - even though I think I can trust most people on the list to buy the album, but a public distribution of the MP3 would be a high risk. Also - I've redistributed material from public TV and radio transmissions, but that's a different thing (perhaps not from a legal point of view, but in my opinion that's closer to marketing). Joakim _____ ...put a low quality Mp3s (in dont want promote piracy) in your ftp server... This message contains information that may be privileged or confidential and is the property of the Cap Gemini Ernst & Young Group. It is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are not authorized to read, print, retain, copy, disseminate, distribute, or use this message or any part thereof. If you receive this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete all copies of this message.

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Vitamin - text
by Svensson, Joakim 28 Jul '03

28 Jul '03

I've transcribed the text of Vitamin, sorry for the German spelling. Kadmium Calcium Eisen Magnesium Carbohydratprotein A, B, C, D vitamin /Repeat/ Adrenaline Endorfin Elekrolüt K-enzym Carbohydratprotein A, B, C, D vitamin Mineral Biotin Zink Selen ??? (something beginning with "erkam" ???) Carbohydratprotein A, B, C, D vitamin Adrenaline Endorfin Elekrolüt K-enzym Carbohydratprotein A, B, C, D vitamin Kadmium Calcium Eisen Magnesium Carbohydratprotein A, B, C, D vitamin Adrenaline Endorfin Elekrolüt K-enzym Carbohydratprotein A, B, C, D vitamin Mineral Biotin Zink Selen ??? (something beginning with "erkam" ???) Carbohydratprotein A, B, C, D vitamin Joakim This message contains information that may be privileged or confidential and is the property of the Cap Gemini Ernst & Young Group. It is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are not authorized to read, print, retain, copy, disseminate, distribute, or use this message or any part thereof. If you receive this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete all copies of this message.

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Vitamin song
by Alex Brega 28 Jul '03

28 Jul '03

I have downloaded and already listened several times at the extract from BBC radio. It reminds me Expo 2000 a lot,because of strong similarity on Rhythm and lead melody (for example Ralf Keyboard, this sound like the live performed Man-Machine,too). I like the mechanic rhythm and metallic drums. About the lyrics, Ralf is talking (this seems to be his new singing-way) about Cadium(?), Calcium, Magnesium, Carboidrate and another chimical composite. A B C D Vitamin. Alex P.S.I am very curios on discovering how Elektrokardiogramm song is.... _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail

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DVD / LP Bootleg news
by Alex Brega 28 Jul '03

28 Jul '03

I am interested on buying a copy,too. There is a direct contact to Kling Klang label ? Is this label German or English ? Maybe some musik-shops in Germany are selling it ? Or simply I have to wait for bid on Ebay.com ? Any buying information is welcome. Brega Alex nicolabrega(a)libero.it _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail

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Karl Bartos London concert review
by Klaus Zaepke 28 Jul '03

28 Jul '03

http://wisdomcore.com/live/bartos_ica.html Klaus Zaepke

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