June 2003 - Kraftwerk - mailman.xmission.com

Re: [Kraftwerk] Concert Classics
by Georg Jajus 26 Jun '03

26 Jun '03

Well, didn't we have the same discussion some years ago ;-) ? > Soleil Lapierre <lapierrs(a)cuug.ab.ca>: > > Well, it was released on silver CD by a major label with professionally > made cover art and sold in normal consumer record stores. I'd say that > makes it an official release. Bootlegs don't get sold in record > stores. Except maybe used record stores. Here in austria, I bought the "Concert Classics" at the Virgin Megastore in vienna which definitly _d o e s n o t_ sale 'illegal' CD's or bootlegs. Gruesse aus Wien, Georgie -> "Yippee-ki-yay, motherfucker!" ( John McClane / 'Die Hard')

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"New" t-shirts at KlingKlang
by Andréas Hagström 26 Jun '03

26 Jun '03

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Single track listing
by Enrique Correa 26 Jun '03

26 Jun '03

Phil wrote: > Forgive me if this has already been posted. > From Amazon.co.uk... > Track Listing (for the new single, UK version) > 1. Tour De France (Radio Version) > 2. Tour De France (Kling Klang Analog Mix) > 3. Tour De France (Remix Francois K) Yes, it has been posted.... back in 1999 to be precise. The info you presented us with refers to the CD release of our beloved and classic Tour de France, not the brand new Tour de France 2003 single. We forgive you, Phil. BTW, the tracklisting for the TdF '03 goes something like "ettape 1, ettape 2, etc etc" While we're at it, it seems that not even emimusic.de has the tracklisting for the TdF 2003 album. All they posted, so far, is: track 1, tba, or something to that effect. Only ONE TRACK! Not even a cover pic... oh well... E

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Tour de France 2003 the NEW ALBUM
by Enrique Correa 25 Jun '03

25 Jun '03

I wrote: > While we're at it, it seems that not even emimusic.de has the > tracklisting for the TdF 2003 album. All they posted, so far, is: > track 1, tba, or something to that effect. Only ONE TRACK! just thought about something! what if they go Tubular Bells/Oxigene/etc... on us? and release a whole thirty-some' minutes long album of nothing but Tour de France 2003! everything's pointing towards that direction, only one track listed on emimusic.de and so far everything has been named TdF '03 this, TdF '03 that. Anyway, just bring it on.. it's all good baby! E

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France 2 vs Antenne 2
by Alex Brega 25 Jun '03

25 Jun '03

Here in Italy in my zone,I am able to catch Antenne 2 french tv station. Are Antenne 2 and France 2 the same thing ? _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail

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Re: [Kraftwerk] "Tour de France 2003"
by owlwatcher_974 24 Jun '03

24 Jun '03

The single and the album are listed on the amazon.com website too. -- --------- Original Message --------- DATE: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 10:31:59 From: Georg Jajus <Georgie(a)blackbox.net> To: kraftwerk(a)mailman.xmission.com Cc: > >The CD-Maxi of "Tour de France 2003" is now listed at amazon.de: > >http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000A1M9U/georgieshomep-21 > >Gruesse aus Wien, >Georgie >-> > >"Yippee-ki-yay, motherfucker!" > >( John McClane / 'Die Hard') > > >_______________________________________________ >Kraftwerk mailing list >Kraftwerk(a)mailman.xmission.com >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kraftwerk > ____________________________________________________________ Get advanced SPAM filtering on Webmail or POP Mail ... Get Lycos Mail! http://login.mail.lycos.com/r/referral?aid=27005

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RE: [Kraftwerk] New tune.
by Toby Frith 24 Jun '03

24 Jun '03

The "Airwaves/Tango" track is perhaps significant here, because maybe it marks their move away from the big kickdrum sound of "The Mix". Maybe they've finally cottoned onto the "clickhouse" and dubtechno stuff by artists such as Basic Channel/Rhythm & Sound and Thomas Brinkmann. I'd love to hear either of those two remix KW. IF TDF does get remixed, and I'm sure it will, I hope that they don't use Orbital or UR again. (except Mad Mike perhaps) -----Original Message----- From: Erik Jälevik [mailto:erik.jalevik@ntlworld.com] Sent: 24 June 2003 13:04 To: Music, non-stop. Subject: Re: [Kraftwerk] New tune. I have to admit... despite my initial scepticism... that you're right. It does grow on you funnily enough. It didn't have the typical signs of a "grower" when I first heard it but the fact is I am really beginning to enjoy it. At least much more than I ever did Expo or the new live tracks. I still want a remix with some more interesting drum action though... Erik ----- Original Message ----- From: "Toby Frith" <Toby.Frith(a)telegraph.co.uk> To: "Music, non-stop." <kraftwerk(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 9:25 AM Subject: RE: [Kraftwerk] New tune. I'll have to add that although I was a little disappointed at first with TDF '03, it has "osmotically" wormed its way into my affections. I played it non-stop for about an hour last night! I'm not up on technology at all, but it appears that they're using the same sounds as Expo 2000, perhaps concentrating on the space rather than percussion and melody....and rather than layering everything, they are stripping everything away... I really love the way the track changes with the "Tour De France " vocal... it's definitely aimed at the dance-floor, but I don't think that's a bad thing. For a couple of 55 year olds to come up with tracks that still sound "on it" in terms of contemporary techno , that's still an achievement. It reminds me of a mix between Steve Rachmad AKA Sterac and Thomas Brinkmann, AKA Soul Center, whilst the vocodered stuff is quite reminiscent of French duo The Youngsters. It's precise, subtle and quite short, which is as it should be. Plus, although this is an awful adjective to use, it's "upbeat". As Enrique put it, we should'nt really expect any kind of "second coming" with KW, they've already had their zenith with Computer World, let's just enjoy what they decide to regale us with. -----Original Message----- From: Enrique Correa [mailto:enrique.correa@heraeusmtd.com] Sent: 24 June 2003 00:01 To: 'KW' Subject: [Kraftwerk] New tune. Hi all, I was not disappointed at TdF '03, and I make that statement based on the fact that I was not expecting a groundbreaking warm loving melody mixed with intricated percussions. In fact, their new single has so many elements from E2K and the three new tunes, that it's almost naive for anyone to expect a second coming with their new album. I believe the lukewarm reception to TdF '03, E2K and the unreleased tracks played back in '97, has more to do with the missing elements, than with what's in them. There are almost no elements left, other than the vocals, from the band we all grew up with. Ralf and Florian, keep them coming. I'll buy anything from you guys. It's just that with every one of your new releases, you are making me miss Karl and Wolfgang more every time... E _______________________________________________ Kraftwerk mailing list Kraftwerk(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kraftwerk _______________________________________________ Kraftwerk mailing list Kraftwerk(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kraftwerk _______________________________________________ Kraftwerk mailing list Kraftwerk(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kraftwerk

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RE: [Kraftwerk] New tune.
by Toby Frith 24 Jun '03

24 Jun '03

I'll have to add that although I was a little disappointed at first with TDF '03, it has "osmotically" wormed its way into my affections. I played it non-stop for about an hour last night! I'm not up on technology at all, but it appears that they're using the same sounds as Expo 2000, perhaps concentrating on the space rather than percussion and melody....and rather than layering everything, they are stripping everything away... I really love the way the track changes with the "Tour De France " vocal... it's definitely aimed at the dance-floor, but I don't think that's a bad thing. For a couple of 55 year olds to come up with tracks that still sound "on it" in terms of contemporary techno , that's still an achievement. It reminds me of a mix between Steve Rachmad AKA Sterac and Thomas Brinkmann, AKA Soul Center, whilst the vocodered stuff is quite reminiscent of French duo The Youngsters. It's precise, subtle and quite short, which is as it should be. Plus, although this is an awful adjective to use, it's "upbeat". As Enrique put it, we should'nt really expect any kind of "second coming" with KW, they've already had their zenith with Computer World, let's just enjoy what they decide to regale us with. -----Original Message----- From: Enrique Correa [mailto:enrique.correa@heraeusmtd.com] Sent: 24 June 2003 00:01 To: 'KW' Subject: [Kraftwerk] New tune. Hi all, I was not disappointed at TdF '03, and I make that statement based on the fact that I was not expecting a groundbreaking warm loving melody mixed with intricated percussions. In fact, their new single has so many elements from E2K and the three new tunes, that it's almost naive for anyone to expect a second coming with their new album. I believe the lukewarm reception to TdF '03, E2K and the unreleased tracks played back in '97, has more to do with the missing elements, than with what's in them. There are almost no elements left, other than the vocals, from the band we all grew up with. Ralf and Florian, keep them coming. I'll buy anything from you guys. It's just that with every one of your new releases, you are making me miss Karl and Wolfgang more every time... E _______________________________________________ Kraftwerk mailing list Kraftwerk(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kraftwerk

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Conrad Schnitzler
by Der Automat 23 Jun '03

23 Jun '03

Quoted from the UK musicshop Music Non Stop 20/06/2003 newsletter: Conrad Schnitzler "Gold" Marginal t CD £12.95 A real sensation for lovers of electronic music - "Gold" represents unreleased material and recordings from 1974 - 1978 and prooves further more Schnitzlers influence over other German electronic acts such as Kraftwerk and Can. This album is totally recorded by Schnitzler alone and is free from compromise and devoted to his artistic vision - locked up and unheard for almost 30 years - this wonderfull album of electronic music is now finally available. Released 21st June 2003. http://www.musicnonstop.co.uk/store/erol.html -unquoted- DER AUTOMAT

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Re: [Kraftwerk] Bartos interview 2000
by Der Automat 23 Jun '03

23 Jun '03

Anders Wahlbom wrote: > Here it is, as promised: the interview we did with Karl Bartos a few > years ago. Thank you very much indeed, that was very kind of you. > Still, some faces are > curiously absent today, such as a well-known British fan who we can > call P.; in the early to mid-90s he would travel all over Europe to > see an Elektric Music or Kraftwerk concert. Karl remembers him well, > but has some reservations: Excuse me if I seem to be not very bright here but who's P.? Paul Wilkinson maybe? DER AUTOMAT

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