October 2003 - Kraftwerk - mailman.xmission.com

Tour de France 2004
by Filtre4Pole 23 Oct '03

23 Oct '03

<today 23/10/2003> Since it has been confirmed to be a true Kraftwerk related topic... ...official presentation of the 91th Tour de France cycliste (july 3th-25th 2004) Map, stages, profiles,... info: http://www.letour.fr Maybe, perhaps, _ /o o\ Filtre4Pole \ ~ / I I - - PS: keep the *old* list alive !

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Norwegian article on Kraftwerk and MTV Awards
by joarg＠hsr.no 23 Oct '03

23 Oct '03

The Norwegian newspaper Aftenposten has an article about Kraftwerk and the fact that they will perform at the MTV Europe Music Awards: http://www.aftenposten.no/kul_und/musikk/article.jhtml?articleID=653119 The article is basically recounting the story of the group, with a couple of pictures. Joar -- Joar Grimstvedt, joarg(a)hsr.no /// WWW: Enigma/Sandra http://www.five.no/joarg/ /// Eschew obfuscation.

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leitmotiv
by ncentola 22 Oct '03

22 Oct '03

So sorry, but considering that all the lists except two (this one and the new one) have almost zero traffic, don´t you think that is not necessary to send copies to all of them? And IMHO (I don´t know all the other opinions, but I saw some questions about it in the past) it´s not significant for KW fans if a russian band is named Numbers or if there´s a song called Machine Man at the new album of french band X. Just my opinion, of course. No flames, please. Or private, if you want... :-) But probably you´re right. I will unsubscribe all the list except the new one. And of course this one, because it´s IMPOSSIBLE to do it... hehehe So I will have just half traffic I have now. peace Nicolau > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 12:29:03 +0200 > From: "Der Automat" > Subject: RE: [Kraftwerk] Another reason > To: "Music, non-stop." > Message-ID: <00b401c3972b$45e48d20$f161a3d4@y5m9j9> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Nicolau Centola wrote: > > > Ok, just one more reason: I get this kind of message (see below) FOUR > TIMES!!! Is it really necessary??? > > > Hey, do not blame on me. That's not a reason why we all ought to move to the > new list. You have received this message four times just because of you're > subscribed to four Kraftwerk lists. If you don't see/know that then you're > more shortshighted than I thought of. And I say that with all due respect, > by the way. A hint: unsubscribe from the lists that annoy you. And that IS a > solution. > > DER AUTOMAT > > >

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Exclusive Karl Bartos news on Side-Line
by Der Automat 22 Oct '03

22 Oct '03

The following is quoted from Side-Line music magazine website: Mon Oct 20, 2003 http://www.side-line.com/news_comments.php?id=244_0_2_0_C Exclusive: bogus download new album Karl Bartos hits the 100.000 counter Posted by: Side-Line info(a)side-line.com on Oct 20, 03 | 12:01 am | Profile http://www.side-line.com/members/profile_view_ind.php?id=1 A bogus MP3 from "Communication", the new album of ex-Kraftwerk Genius Karl Bartos, has been downloaded over 100.000 times in the last 4 weeks through several p2p filesharing networks so we learned from Bartos who gave an exclusive interview to Side-Line. Bartos: "The MP3 was launched on several p2p networks such as Kazaa to find out the effect of file sharing on album sales. Obviously, the MP3 was unplayable once opened." How Sony tracked down the numer of downloads remains an open question. With his first album under his own name, Karl Bartos is to start a UK tour today October 20th supported by the band Client. Bartos released previous material under the name of Electric-Music-Project ("Esperanto", "Electric Music") featuring collaborations with eg. Johnny Marr. More exclusive news (including some Kraftwerk revelations) in our January 2004 issue Side-Line 46. You can order your subscription / seperate issues below (including issue 46)! Send article http://www.side-line.com/tellafriend.php?id=244_0_2_0 Comments http://www.side-line.com/news_comments.php?id=244_0_2_0_C -unquoted- By the way, according to http://www.allmusic.com in 1999 an album under the title "Esperanto Plus" was released on SPV by Elektric Music. I suppose it is the Japanese edition of Esperanto. DER AUTOMAT

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[Kraftwerk] Karl Bartos in MOJO magazine + Kraftwerk in "The MOJO Hall of Fame"
by Der Automat 22 Oct '03

22 Oct '03

What you are about to read is posted by courtesy of Gina [thank you very much]: In the back pages of tenth anniversary issue of MOJO magazine, there is this piece which I assume is a regular feature about ex-members of famous bands: HELLO, GOODBYE Originally a classical percussionist, he later became a robot worker in one of the most influential groups of all time. This month... 80. Karl Bartos and Kraftwerk HELLO SPRING 1977 I was 22, and studying music in the Conservatorium in Dusseldorf, and my professor got a call saying that Kraftwerk needed a classically-trained drummer. I knew them because they had an underground reputation for doing strange and arty stuff, so I went with my vibraphone to the Kling Klang studio. It was all white with rough stone walls, a couple of synthesizers, some neon lights, a Farfisa organ and electronic drum heads, built by hand. So I played some pop music, and I was hired. I was used to playing Stockhausen, and was into pop music too, so it was a perfect mixture of both worlds. Ralf and Florian were like artists, strange artists. Usually you have white paper and black notes but they had black paper and white notes. It was fantastic! They also had UV lights and kept turning up the paper to shine the UV light on it. It was so intense, really psychedelic. I dug it very much. Later on they had whisky colas and I had an ordinary cola. Shortly after we had a gig in Cologne at a radio station. The next gig was Paris and the next was New York, Broadway! I ended up in a 10-month tour of America. And then I was back at the opera. Ralf would pick me up in his grey Volkswagen when the opera ended and we'd work into the small hours. My goal had been to become a professor, but I ended up playing electronic music for 15 years. GOODBYE AUGUST 1991 Our productivity decreased so much during the '80s. When we did /Electric Cafe/, we spent three months producing it in Times Square, a nice place to be but in the end every day was alike. We were working, yes, but how much work can you do when you're meeting at 8 o'clock at night and then watching old television programmes and trying to think about a new concept? Then we spent five years working on this mix record [1991's /The Mix/]. To me, this was distorting the past. They had a rigid attitude not to change things, and I felt annoyed that everything was going down the hill and shit. You can buy and sell machinery, but if you lose people's minds and loyalty then you're fucked. But it wasn't like being in Marshmellow Overcoat or something - Kraftwerk were /the/ German band. So it took me two years, maybe longer, to come up with this decision. In August 1991, I gave them the key to the studio and said, I can't do it any more. I think they were surprised. I went home in my car and talked to my girlfriend and, for the first time, thought about a career. Really sad. It takes me by surprise to see they have a new record out called /Tour De France/ - I wrote this track 20 years ago. My new album, /Communication/, is out at the same time; when people compare these records, I think the music will do the job. Interview by Ian Harrison Also in MOJO magazine this month is "THE MOJO HALL OF FAME" #50. KRAFTWERK World changing moment: Kraftwerk play Autobahn on BBC TV's Tomorrow's World, September 25, 1975. IT WAS a strange sight - three men playing electronic pianos, while a fourth hit metal plates with what appeared to be knitting needles. And yet, out of these contraptions came a melody. weird, but beautiful. Kraftwerk were not the first artists to use synthesizers - they had been colouring chart hits for at least five years, but the Dusseldorf alchemists were the first to create a joyful meeting of pre-war nostalgia with ultra-futurism. Autobahn celebrated German engineering, while inventing the `80s. Bowie was impressed. Future members of Cabaret Voltaire and The Human League saved up for synthesizers. And later, DJs in Detroit would rediscover their robotic charm. http://www.mojo4music.com/html/mojo_new_issue.shtml http://www.mojo4music.com/ http://www.mojomag.com/ http://www.mojomagazine.co.uk/ DER AUTOMAT

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Two more Tour de France Soundtracks reviews
by Der Automat 22 Oct '03

22 Oct '03

http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&uid=CASS80305141541&sql=Anr5h8qpzbt n4 http://www.releasemagazine.net/orkraftwerktdfs.htm DER AUTOMAT

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Billboard Chart Positions
by Der Automat 22 Oct '03

22 Oct '03

http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&uid=CASS80305141541&sql=TPon5tk6rxl krj Elektric Music Year Single Chart Highest Position 1993 Crosstalk Hot Dance Music/Club Play No. 36 1994 Lifestyle Hot Dance Music/Club Play No. 45 http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&uid=CASS80305141541&sql=TPdm8zefwkh gfj Kraftwerk Year Album Chart Highest Position 1975 Autobahn Pop AlbumsNo. 5 1975 Ralf And Florian Pop Albums No. 160 1976 Radio-Activity Pop Albums No. 140 1977 Trans-Europe Express Pop Albums No. 119 1978 The Man-Machine Pop Albums No. 130 1981 Computer-World Pop Albums No. 72 1981 Computer-World Black Albums No. 32 1987 Electric Cafe The Billboard 200 No. 158 2003 Tour De France Soundtracks Top Electronic Albums No. 3 Year Single Chart Highest Position 1975 Autobahn Pop Singles No. 25 1978 The Man-Machine (LP All Cuts) Club Play Singles No. 39 1978 Trans-Europe Express Pop Singles No. 67 1981 Pocket Calculator/Numbers/Computer World/Computer Love Club Play Singles No. 13 1982 Numbers Black Singles No. 22 1987 Musique Non Stop Hot Dance Music/Club Play No. 1 1987 The Telephone Call (Remix) Hot Dance Music/Club Play No. 1 1987 Musique Non Stop Hot Dance Music/Maxi-Singles Sales No. 6 1987 The Telephone Call (Remix) Hot Dance Music/Maxi-Singles Sales No. 18 1991 Robotronik Hot Dance Music/Club Play No. 42 1991 Robotronik Hot Dance Music/Maxi-Singles Sales No. 42 2003 Tour De France 2003 Hot Dance Singles Sales No. 13 DER AUTOMAT

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The Mix
by Der Automat 22 Oct '03

22 Oct '03

A Spanish film titled "The Mix" was recently (17th October) premiered. The movie is about djs and clubs. http://www.portalmix.com/themix DER AUTOMAT

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Re: KW List: In re your post "KW in Bollywood"
by MuzikJunky 22 Oct '03

22 Oct '03

abcdvitamin, who can't post to the list for some reason, forwarded the link to the film "Koi... Mil Gaya" to me--here it is: http://www.koimilgayathefilm.com/ Peace.

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new and old list
by ncentola 21 Oct '03

21 Oct '03

Guys, why don´t just move to the new list? The traffic here is getting down and probably it will colapse very soon. I know, everyone has a special reason to keep it. I´m on the list since 95 and made some nice virtual friends and few at the real world here. I went to Tribal Gathering to cover it for a brazilian magazine just because the list helped me to get the press pass. And many other reasons. I remember this list was my first connection with Internet in 1995. I have no connection, and a friend, who worked at IBM Brazil, print all the digests and send by post mail to me. So I get a dialed connection and start to post. I have some prints at home yet. BUT, IMHO there´s no future for this list. OK, someone could keep the archive, but it doesn´t matter if Lazlo or Dave own the list. They are not interested in keep it alive, so it´s time to move. Let´s leave our personal reasons here and start a new travel, in a much more well moderated list. What do you think? peace Nicolau www.kraftworld.hpg.com.br > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 05:11:10 -0600 (MDT) > From: Soleil Lapierre > Subject: Re: SV: SV: Activerecord / Xmission (was: Re: [KRAFTWERK] > double, triple and more messages) > To: "Music, non-stop." > Message-ID: > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > On Thu, 9 Oct 2003 johan.andersson(a)allers.aller.se wrote: > > > If I remember correctly, someone sometime mentioned that it was a guy > > called "Dave datta" who originally started this list, but I'm not > > shure... > > That name definitely rings a bell. I know Lazlo Nibble AKA Ernie Longmeyer > has been the list owner for as long as I've been on it, but I don't know > the prehistory. > > -- > /* Soleil */ > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 13:38:13 +0200 > From: johan.andersson(a)allers.aller.se > Subject: SV: Activerecord / Xmission (was: Re: [KRAFTWERK] double, > triple and more messages) > To: kraftwerk(a)mailman.xmission.com > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hmmm, I found his name in the first Archived Digest of this list, it's from January 1993 ! (David Datta) > > Anyone who was on this list in 93 who's still lurking around here? > > Anyone who has the adress to the seachable version of the archive?, I I know there was one around a few years ago... > > Regards / Johan >

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