August 2002 - Kraftwerk - mailman.xmission.com

Nit-pickin' chart numbers
by Lech 23 Aug '02

23 Aug '02

Tom noted: > /.../ I guess Frank Sinatra always had to sing New York, New York or else... Sure, from an American perspective "Autobahn" is the only Kraftwerk recording to chart decently. However, back in Germany "Die Roboter" is their highest charting single. (Reaching #5 back in '78 - "Autobahn" only got as far as #9. Also, the '82 re-issue of "Das Model" passed "Autobahn", reaching #7 in Germany, and #1 in the UK - where "Autobahn" only got as far as #11 in '75.) As for most successful album, both "Autobahn" & "Computerwelt" reached #7 in the German album charts, and while "Autobahn" shifted some 450.000 copies in the US in its time, "Die Mensch-Maschine" sold 600.000 copies in Germany alone back in '78.(*) So, while a lack of "Autobahn" mightn't be enough to send bottles smashing into the precious Kling Klang set-up, a void of robots and models could. -- Champagne for my real friends. Real pain for my sham friends. (*) Main sources for this intel were the official Guinness books about British hits by Tim Rice, Paul Gambaccini and Jonathan Rice, the official Billboard books by Joel Whitburn, The Rock in Deutschland encyclopaedia, and the various books on Kraftwerk. You lil' nit-pickers, you...

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RE: [Kraftwerk] Nit-pickin' chart numbers
by Marcelo Figueroa 23 Aug '02

23 Aug '02

If Kraftwerk don't play 'Tour de France' at Paris next September, I think french fans never never will not forgive them. Marcelo Figueroa -----Mensaje original----- De: Eric Gartner [mailto:kraftwerk@audiferous.com] Enviado el: Viernes, 23 de Agosto de 2002 08:37 Para: kraftwerk(a)mailman.xmission.com Asunto: Re: [Kraftwerk] Nit-pickin' chart numbers Actually, I think there is a higher chance they would play "Musique Non-Stop" or "The Robots" than "Tour de France". -Eric _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? InformaciÃ³n de Estados Unidos y AmÃ©rica Latina, en Yahoo! Noticias. VisÃtanos en http://noticias.espanol.yahoo.com

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Re: [Kraftwerk] Organisation - Record prices
by Der Automat 23 Aug '02

23 Aug '02

In case any of you are interested, I've got a (pirate) spare copy of Tone Float in cassette format. You can mail me privately. DER AUTOMAT

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Just trying to mix things up
by Tom 23 Aug '02

23 Aug '02

Paul Mennes (omegaChance) had it exactly right! I was just trying to rattle some cages :) Just ignore me on this one. Regardless of what they play it will be great. Actually, I'm just really jealous of all the people that will get to see them in Europe soon. I would be going insane right now if I had the chance to go. About 15 years ago, Tangerine Dream played the states and I really wanted to see them. The NYC shows were sold out. I never considered buying tickets from a scalper. I thought, "That will be too expensive!" The Washington DC show was not sold out, I wanted to go with a sure thing, so I bought a ticket for that show. I had to drive there, and spend an afternoon in DC on a Sunday in the middle of August. There is no life in DC in the Summer on a Sunday, time moved so slow!!!! The show was great, I left and drove as far as I could, then got a hotel room for the night. I woke up at 5:00 in the morning and then drove directly to work. It would of been much easier and cheaper to buy tickets from a scalper in NYC. Save 10 Euros everyday from now until then and get there real early and buy any ticket you can, it may be your last chance. In October, the money spent will be worth it. Thanks, Tom

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Re: Changes on the set list
by Oh Jay 23 Aug '02

23 Aug '02

From: omegaChance <omegaChance(a)firemail.de> > Something tells me 'The Man Machine' wont be there, why that ??? nah ... i suppose that "the model" will be dropped again & i must admit that i really disliked this song's new(er) live version on their '98 world tour !!! :-/ > and 'Airwaves' will be absent, but the newer song will still be there... fyi : "airwaves" was only played as a kind of intro to one of their newer songs in '97 / '98 , so i supppose that IF they still play that new song , they'll also play "airwaves" as an intro to it !!! ;-) > I expect Computer Love to be back, i didn't , but it would indeed be nice to hear it again ... in a new live version !!! ;-) > maybe Expo 2000, most likely !!! *G+* ;-) > and farther-along versions of 'Tribal' and all the other newer ones... yep ... that's what i think so too !!! ;-) imho , they'll ONLY drop "the model" & play "expo 2000" instead !!! :-o not exactly , what i would like to call "very innovative" , but @ least u'll be surprised , if they would really change their complete set list more drastically then !!! *BWG* ;-))) however ... many greetinx , oh jay ;-) *~\^/~*

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Re: [Kraftwerk] Anti-Autobahn
by Arnaud de Bonald 23 Aug '02

23 Aug '02

oh no, what a strange idea you have??? I like very much Autobahn played live. btw, they will pplay what they want, not what we want. On 2002-08-21 kraftwerk(a)mailman.xmission.com said: >Hey Everybody, >Do you think there is some way we can start a drive to have >Kraftwerk NOT play Autobahn at the shows next month? Think about it, >we all know how the song goes. Why waste valuable concert time on a >song we've all heard a million times? This would leave extra time >for something like Space-Lab or Europe Endless to be performed live. >Anybody with me on this? >Tom >_______________________________________________ >Kraftwerk mailing list >Kraftwerk(a)mailman.xmission.com >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kraftwerk Net-Tamer V 1.13 Beta - Registered

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Autobahn or not?
by Paul Mennes 23 Aug '02

23 Aug '02

It's useless to try and influence KW as far as what they will be playing is concerned. How will you hand over this petition? Do they read this list? Do you think they'll give a damn? Besides, it's the artists right to choose what he will do/write/read/play anytime. And as far as Autobahn is concerned: I really love the long albumversion. And I'm hoping for a good version of EXPO 2000, a Senor Coconut version of Pocket Calculator and a whole new albumsworth of new tracks. Well, you can dream, can't you? Idea: could we organise a meeting of Belgian KW-lovers in Gent prior to the concert, say in the afternoon or something? The Vooruit (the venue) has a very nice café.

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RE: Re[2]: [Kraftwerk] New pictures
by electram 22 Aug '02

22 Aug '02

Hello Marcelo, Yes, it can be... But the intention of that message was not commercial. We just received really great new photos, and ever we receive material like this, we try to divide our joy like fan with the members of the list. It can appears promotion of our site, but the spirit is not this... I think other fans with websites related to Kraftwerk must be the same, when new material appears... The site of Arthur is great too, and if he don't want to talk about the news of his site, it's a question of him. Our site is updated every week, and we will try to talk about news when something interesting appears, just it... Regards to all, Marcelo Duarte http://kraftwerk.technopop.com.br Brasil > > Marcelo, I think Arthur was referring to the "way" in > which you wrote the message. > > It's obvious your web site isn't commercial and you > don't want to get money with it. > > Marcelo Figueroa > Cordoba - Argentina > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Información de Estados Unidos y América Latina, en Yahoo! Noticias. > Visítanos en http://noticias.espanol.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > Kraftwerk mailing list > Kraftwerk(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kraftwerk > >

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what about new album?
by catmeow 22 Aug '02

22 Aug '02

Hello happy k'fans! ;-) The french "rocksound" magazine - july/august2002 edition (issiued last june) publishes, as usual, a list detailing the main official forthcoming records (artist/title/record company/release date). Among many others, this list includes the following line: - Kraftwerk: "new" (EMI) - early 2003. The concerts (Paris-La Villette) in september are announced too That's all - no further info. ! Well a new album? more than a rumour? mmmh As far as I can remember, this same magazine also listed, month by month, the "previous never released Kraftwerk album" like this: kraftwerk: "new" (EMI) - summer 1997, :-))) then: --- october 1997, :-)) then: --- late 1997, :-) then: --- early 1998, :-/ then then (cancelled! of course! as we all know) >:-(( So wait & see! Greetings, Pop Corn ( a new-comer on this list waiting since 1986 or 1991 for the next Kraftwerk album ;-) )

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RE: Re[2]: [Kraftwerk] New pictures
by Marcelo Figueroa 22 Aug '02

22 Aug '02

Marcelo, I think Arthur was referring to the "way" in which you wrote the message. It's obvious your web site isn't commercial and you don't want to get money with it. Marcelo Figueroa Cordoba - Argentina _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? InformaciÃ³n de Estados Unidos y AmÃ©rica Latina, en Yahoo! Noticias. VisÃtanos en http://noticias.espanol.yahoo.com

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