May 2002 - Kraftwerk - mailman.xmission.com

another clarification
by ..::=|X|=::.. 30 May '02

30 May '02

from "Der Automat": > With all due respect, this is not correct. > FYI, the first hip-hop song of the history was Afika Bambaataa's > "Don't Stop... Planet Rock", [blah... blah... blah...] that's simply laughable. i'm sorry, but i don't like to waste my time any longer with people, who just lack the knowledge to discuss such topics in a reasonable way, brother! go and check the plain facts first, before you post anything here again. thank you! ..::=|X|=::..

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the ingredients of hip hop
by ..::=|X|=::.. 30 May '02

30 May '02

(or: splitting hairs vs. stating the plain facts) > The new thing was called "rap" in NYC back in the '70's. > Been there, done that! > And "rap" was in Jamaica decades ago; D.J.'s called it "toasting." > Hip Hop is a lifestyle from the freakin' 80's. > > amir okay brother, as you like to split hairs by now, then here we go: hip hop is indeed a lifestyle that contains rapping by the so called mc(s) (master(s) of ceremony), deejaying, breakdancing, beatboxing (which amazed kraftwerk so much that they decided in 1986 to do a track called "boing boom tschak" to open their "electric cafe" album!) and -last but not least- spraying or graffiti art. all of those parts that finally made up, what's called hip hop in general were already introduced "on the streets" on n.y.c. in the mid-70s and not just in the last 70s or early 80s. that's just another plain fact! go back and check your history, brother! peace, y' all! ..::=|X|=::..

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Re: [Kraftwerk] "Free To Be" CD
by Lew Hugh 30 May '02

30 May '02

Strange that its in my HMV along with Expo 2000 , Tour de France was re-issued in the late 90's with a video I beleive. But i havnt got it yet for the fact that its £5 ! ! Oh well when I have some cash handy I shall get it hehe >From Lewis PS If you go on Amazon.co.uk Ive seen it there... Or try www.opalmusic.com they're really nice people & I get most of my music from there :)) >From: webmaster(a)slystone.com >Reply-To: kraftwerk(a)mailman.xmission.com >To: kraftwerk(a)mailman.xmission.com >Subject: [Kraftwerk] "Free To Be" CD >Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 21:37:16 -0400 > > > >Brian Davis wrote: > > > I found "Tour De France" on Napster, last year but I haven't been able >to > > find that CD. Is it out of print? > >------------------ >10 Speed is a group who did this song. >Sounds like KW under a different name. >http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=Aom9yxdfb2oly > > > > > > > > I've found a new appreciation of "Techno Pop" from "Electric Cafe". I've > > been playing it in my truck > >----------------- >Headphones on late at night. Perfect rhythms all around. > >amir > > >_______________________________________________ >Kraftwerk mailing list >Kraftwerk(a)mailman.xmission.com >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kraftwerk Mooo! 2 yr all! }:8) _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com

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Re: Kraftwerk digest, Vol 1 #164 - 12 msgs
by ..::=|X|=::.. 30 May '02

30 May '02

From: Brian Davis <jita1(a)comcast.net> > Well, last year, it drew in over 1 million folks over a three day period. > Not too bad. indeed, brother! the electronic music festival in detroit is one of the best festivals of this kind worldwide and can be compared to the sonar music festival in spain. the electronic beats festival in germany is just a little fart compared to it! anyway, as kraftwerk have very good connections since years to some prominent people in detroit (the whole underground resistance / submerge posse around "mad" mike banks, for example), i suppose that you should try to contact them and ask, if they can contact kraftwerk then maybe!? if you don't succeed, just let me know and i'll forward your request to kraftwerk, but only if your interests are really genuine and you're not just another fan, who wants to bother his "idols"! peace, brother! ..::=|X|=::..

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Hip Hop Origins
by Nat Heidler 30 May '02

30 May '02

I recently had the pleasure of seeing the movie "Scratch" http://www.scratchmovie.com/ The films covers the history of Hip-Hop from the early 70s to just a few years ago. Kept waiting to see someone cite Kraftwerk as an influence, but no show. I highly reccomend this movie if it's showing your town. Nat Somewhere in Kansas, USA

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Re: Kraftwerk digest, Vol 1 #162 - 12 msgs
by ..::=|X|=::.. 30 May '02

30 May '02

From: webmaster(a)slystone.com > "Rapper's delight" by the Sugar Hill Gang wasn't out until maybe '79. > The only hip hop back during T.E.E. and Man Machine > was by a bunny rabbit fleeting a cannabis field. the fact that the first so called hip hop track or production was just released in 1979 doesn't mean that the underground movement called hip hop doesn't existed already for years "on the streets" of new york city, brother! that's just a plain fact and not just my humble opinion. i suggest that you visit n.y.c. and check out the true history of hip hop and talk to the people, who already made hip hop in the mid-70s (before t.e.e. was released!), which i did! peace, brother! ..::=|X|=::..

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RE: New KW forum
by Stephen Sherry 29 May '02

29 May '02

Hi, Due to problems with the server I have relocated the forum to this new address http://cgi-bin.spaceports.com/~kwforum/ SO please join!!! Stephen ' Anyone who swims with the current will reach the big music steamship; whoever swims against the current may perhaps reach the source ' http://www.mp3.com/mainevent http://www.maineventmusik.co.uk http://www.stationmp3.com/mainevent _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.

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Re: [Kraftwerk] Hip Hop Origins
by muziknut2＠juno.com 29 May '02

29 May '02

>>> As far as the origin of hip-hop, you have to go back to the 1960s to a NY group called "The Original Poets" <<< PUHLEEZ! They're called THE LAST POETS, and they were one of the original spoken-word groups. Sure, spoken-word, with its jazz-like cadences were an influence on hip hop, but it isn't the ORIGIN of hip-hop. If you say it like that, you have to go back to Africa, where almost everything has its origin! The so-called "godfather" of hip-hop was Kool DJ Herc, who came from Jamaica, bringing the sound-system idea to the South Bronx. Rhyming over the beat of the sound-system DJ came next--we're talking 1975, here. www.zulunation.com has hip-hop history and knowledge for your dome. Peace.

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Re: [Kraftwerk] (OT) Cybugs
by Rob Evans 29 May '02

29 May '02

>I've been there, as I live in Milan. >Nice, but.... strange, no mention about Kraftwerk!!! ;-) Probably forgotten them Rob _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

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(OT) Cybugs
by Der Automat 29 May '02

29 May '02

"Cybugs, can the machines think?" is the title of an exhibition on the history of the robots taking place at the Triennale palace of Milan (Italy), up to July 28th. http://www.cybugs.info http://www.triennale.it Via Alemagna 6 Milano info(a)triennale.it DER AUTOMAT ®

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