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Schwingungen Award
by Lord Ruthven 30 Mar '02

30 Mar '02

Here's a report on Winfried Trenkler's "Schwingungen" award in Duisburg. Kraftwerk and Neu! are mentioned there. (German language.) http://www.taz.de/pt/2002/03/30/a0232.nf/text.ges,1 jan _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Re: Re: [Kraftwerk] acetate (Autobahn tape)
by Dirk Matten 30 Mar '02

30 Mar '02

kraftwerk(a)mailman.xmission.com schrieb am 30.03.02: > > >> Or a matter of economics? Record at half the speed and you have double > > >> the amount of tape! > > > > > > Sure, but for a professional studio, this shouldn't be an issue! > > > > Oh-oh, don't forget: Kraftwerk had no money at that time. Conny Plank was > > not their engineer, he was the producer of Autobahn, so probably it was HIS > > money they spent! > > Oh, come on, that would mean that Conny Plank was on the verge of bankruptcy, > wouldn't it. I don't know the open reel tape price in 1974, but with a high > quality tape (say Maxell XL-1) today, I'd just save about 20 Euros by reducing > the speed. And if this was an issue, I wouldn't even be able to offer some cups > of coffee to the musicians in the studio. But maybe you're right, I can't verify > it as I wasn't there - it just seems to me that what Dirk meant was that Conny > Plank chose 7.5 ips for sonic reasons. *************************** Quite right. Kraftwerk had money and paid for the rent of Conny's 16-track-recorder. They did the basic tracks at Kling Klang. It was played by Ralf Hütter and Florian Schneider-Esleben. Sound effects and mountig "Autobahn" was done by Conny Plank when I was visting him. I was present, when Autobahn was born. Dirk Matten, ZeitZeuge > > > _______________________________________________ > Kraftwerk mailing list > Kraftwerk(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kraftwerk ______________________________________________________________________________ Die Nummer, die sich jeder merkt: Ihre 01212 Wunschrufnummer von WEB.DE! Jetzt sichern: http://freemail.web.de/?mc=990001

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Kraftwerk in clubs
by Oleg Rekutin 30 Mar '02

30 Mar '02

Well, I just got back from a Plaid show in Cambridge, MA. The opening DJ, Mira Calix, played Kraftwerk's "Numbers" (a slight remix, with a stronger kick drum and stretched out lots), and a lot of people in the crowd were loving it. There was a moment of cheers when people recognized the track coming on. I know I was loving it! One, two. Also, Kraftwerk was played on another tour from Warp Records, at which I was present. I think they do this pretty much every time. - Oleg

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Re: Re: [Kraftwerk] acetate (Autobahn tape)
by Dirk Matten 29 Mar '02

29 Mar '02

It's not a copy of the master, it's the generation before the master-tape, which has single ended noise reduction. It is the original of the music Kraftwerk played. What ca be better? Dirk Matten kraftwerk(a)mailman.xmission.com schrieb am 29.03.02: > Rob Evans wrote: > > > > Rick Jansen <rja(a)euronet.nl> wrote: > > > > >But... this thing wasn't even touched by Kraftwerk... It doesn't even > > >contain something really special, apart from a bit better sound quality. > > > > I remember, Rick, you are not a big fan of the Autobahn album..and I must > > confess neither am I, but there are crazy people who would kill to get hold > > of the Autobahn master tape and we have to remember that. They follow no > > logic. > > ??? I really love Autobahn... I remember it being played on the radio, > and it's effect on me, (I was 14 then) I had never heard such sounds, but > of course, they didn't say which band this was. Verry frustrating. It was > the first album I bought, even before I had a record player. Am I not a big > fan of Autobahn? :-) > > What I object to is that this tape is blown up to proportions it doesn't > have (for me at least). It's a copy of something that was sent to the record > company for production. It's not a different mix. It's not the master tape > either. (A copy of a master isn't a master by definition.) It's more like a > first print of a famous photo. Nice, but not worth 4 figures. Maybe in lire > (last day tomorrow!). > > Rick Jansen > -- > Web: http://www.euronet.nl/~rja/ > email: rja(a)euronet.nl > > Any spam mail sent to me results in counter measures. > > _______________________________________________ > Kraftwerk mailing list > Kraftwerk(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kraftwerk ________________________________________________________________ Keine verlorenen Lotto-Quittungen, keine vergessenen Gewinne mehr! Beim WEB.DE Lottoservice: http://tippen2.web.de/?x=13

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Re: Re: Re: [Kraftwerk] acetate (Autobahn tape)
by Dirk Matten 29 Mar '02

29 Mar '02

Sekt korrekt! Dirk Matten kraftwerk(a)mailman.xmission.com schrieb am 29.03.02: > Dirk Matten wrote: > > > >It's not a copy of the master, it's the generation before the > >master->tape,which has single ended noise reduction. > >It is the original of the music Kraftwerk played. > >What can be better? > > Which is why I think it would be worth four figures (UK Pounds). Others > disagree with me because it is not the master. But by what you say, it is > actually more noteworthy than the master tape itself. > > Rob. > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > > > _______________________________________________ > Kraftwerk mailing list > Kraftwerk(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kraftwerk ________________________________________________________________ Keine verlorenen Lotto-Quittungen, keine vergessenen Gewinne mehr! Beim WEB.DE Lottoservice: http://tippen2.web.de/?x=13

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Re: Re: [Kraftwerk] acetate (Autobahn tape)
by Rob Evans 29 Mar '02

29 Mar '02

Dirk Matten wrote: >It's not a copy of the master, it's the generation before the >master->tape,which has single ended noise reduction. >It is the original of the music Kraftwerk played. >What can be better? Which is why I think it would be worth four figures (UK Pounds). Others disagree with me because it is not the master. But by what you say, it is actually more noteworthy than the master tape itself. Rob. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.

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Re: [Kraftwerk] Metropolis in Filmmuseum (for the Dutch only)
by Rob Evans 29 Mar '02

29 Mar '02

>Sorry to mention this so late, I was too busy having lots of sex. I don't understand why you have to raise this issue. Rob. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

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Re: [Kraftwerk] acetate (Autobahn tape)
by Rob Evans 29 Mar '02

29 Mar '02

Rick Jansen <rja(a)euronet.nl> wrote: >But... this thing wasn't even touched by Kraftwerk... It doesn't even >contain something really special, apart from a bit better sound quality. I remember, Rick, you are not a big fan of the Autobahn album..and I must confess neither am I, but there are crazy people who would kill to get hold of the Autobahn master tape and we have to remember that. They follow no logic. >Why not start selling canned air taken from the city of Duesseldorf, >those molecules surely must have been breathed by Huetter or Schneider, >or maybe even by both of them. Come on guys, be realistic. I think it is realistic to suggest that some people would pay for that too. >Now, if someone would have a tape of Technopop... Well, I would like to get hold of it on bootleg at least....... Rob. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

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Re: [Kraftwerk] acetate (Autobahn tape)
by Rob Evans 29 Mar '02

29 Mar '02

Rick Jansen wrote: >??? I really love Autobahn... Am I not a big >fan of Autobahn? :-) Ah...I remember a comment you made (I have a good memory for this sort of thing) which went something like..."there are many points during Autobahn where it is very easy to go to the other side of the record"...and stuff like that. Trust me, you do not like it. Maybe you are not getting much sex like Oh Jay suggested Rob. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

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Re: [Kraftwerk] KW CD burn...Best of Kraftwerk
by Enrique Correa 29 Mar '02

29 Mar '02

amir wrote: > "Sex Machine" by Sly & the Family Stone is 13 minutes of electronica > from way back in 1969. I'm sure Ralf Hutter took note of it. speaking of which... I have "(just an) illusion" by Imagination on repeat since a half an hour now... it's hard to stay still while listening to it... I love that song. E

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