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RE: [Kraftwerk] Kraftwerk at VH1
by Der Automat 17 Dec '02

17 Dec '02

On November 06th, 2002 Roman Aksenenko wrote: > Hi 18 of Dec. 2002 @ 1:30 CET will show greatest hits of Kraftwerk again. AFAIK the date will be Thursday 19th of December of 2002. At 1.00h CET Depeche Mode's greatest hits will also be aired. DER AUTOMAT

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Re: [Kraftwerk] KW Live at Electraglide 2002
by mige iranzo 16 Dec '02

16 Dec '02

What's your FTP? PD: Viva la Renault Ellypse!!! /\ /\ S T O P Â¯Â¯()Â¯Â¯ R A D I O A C T I V I T Y /\ Â¯Â¯ >From: "tWiNgO" <twingo(a)xs4all.nl> >Reply-To: kraftwerk(a)mailman.xmission.com >To: <kraftwerk(a)mailman.xmission.com> >Subject: [Kraftwerk] KW Live at Electraglide 2002 >Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 23:11:43 +0100 > >A 1h34min recording is rolling into my FTP right now.. >just 3 days after the gig :) > >Viva internet!! > > /twingo > >(and a .mov file with a video-track-scan of Osaka is also already available >thx to Technopop) > > >_______________________________________________ >Kraftwerk mailing list >Kraftwerk(a)mailman.xmission.com >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kraftwerk _________________________________________________________________ Charla con tus amigos en lÃnea mediante MSN Messenger: http://messenger.microsoft.com/es

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Electraglide 2002 - Meeting Fritz + Henning.
by rhodri kasperbauer 16 Dec '02

16 Dec '02

At around 5am, 8 hours since the start of Elctraglide, we were watching Andy Weatherhall, when my wife noticed someone smiling at her. It was Fritz and Henning, who were both watching the dj from the back of the hall. They turned out to be thoroughly friendly and talkative (we think they are a little shy around girls, less so with boys... maybe it's part of the pact you make when you join Kraftwerk). Out of courtesy, it was just as much a conversation in which they were asking us questions, as we were of them. What's of interest to you readers is Kraftwerk, so be it: Fritz used a great combination of hand and facial gestures when discussing the audience's reaction to the concert. He gave the impression that it was not the greatest of audiences, but was ok given the context. They were taking the train to Osaka, as it was "faster", then it would be back to Germany for Xmas before Australia. They play 'The Model' in Japan because of Ralf, it's his decision, he likes to play it here; it seemed that they were amused by this, maybe that it pointed to the dyanmacs in the band. The new stage design (i.e. under stage lighting) is, in part, to make it easier to tour...which led on to discssing past canecllations... The US/Canada Tour in 1991 was something they really wanted to do, that it was cancelled was because of the prohibitive cost of moving equipment then. Fritz Hilpert first met Ralf + Florian when they were doing the English-language version of 'The Model' The Robots, the wire-frame suits...haven't necessarily gone for ever, these things go in cycles. I pointed out that the suits and robots were part of the publicity, so there was a certain expectation that they would be present... We also talked about their pre-kraftwerk sound work... They are obvioulsy very keen and enthusiastic about the constantly-evolving developments that have gone into the mulit-format video projections and Doepfer controllers, etc. They are very much part of Kraftwerk, something that isn't clear from the anonymity that surrounds being part of The Organization. They were happy to sign the 3-D Expo 2000 sleeve we'd brought. Henning at first studied the sleeve, wanting to know how much it cost and where it came from, then ponderig where to sign it. When we get access to a scanner, we'll post the photos taken with Fritz and Henning. As someone mentioned, just to confirm, it was not the usual voice intro. at the start of the concert. There also seemed to be a very brief segment of 'the new song that they have been playing before Music Non-Stop (1997-1998)..it could be heard playing just as the curtains were about to open - then it disappeared (did anyone record the show via their moibile, who can confirm this?) . Talking of disappearing, Ralf had to help to get the curtain closed at the end. I may have given an incorrect impression before - we met some very friendly Japanese people - be they those organisers who gave us their Kraftwerk-related memorbilia, and, those working on the food and drink stalls - throughout the 9 hours of Electraglide. But it would have been good to have spent some time with other enthusiastic true fans...however, meeting Fritz and Henning was a very pleasant and special bonus! Wishing you all what you wish! __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

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Wolfgang Fluer News
by Klaus Zaepke 15 Dec '02

15 Dec '02

Wolfgang Fluer did the German translation of "Rosa Helikopter" by the Peaches: http://www.svd.se/dynamiskt/Noje/did_3731504.asp (Swedish language) Klaus Zaepke

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(Fwd) Buch und mehr
by Klaus Zaepke 15 Dec '02

15 Dec '02

Marko Schmidt ("germankraft(a)web.de") asked me to forward the following to the list. He looks for reliable information about Kraftwerk chart positions and awards for his WWW page at http://www.germankraft.de/charts.htm Klaus Zaepke ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- From: "Germankraft" <germankraft(a)web.de> Subject: Buch und mehr Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 12:17:18 +0100 [...] Koenntest Du folgenden Text in Englisch mal in die Liste schreiben: Fuer eine Uebersicht an Chart-Positionen, Auszeichnungen/Preise und Gold und Platin Schallplatten suche ich noch verlaessliche Daten. Was ich schon habe steht unter www.germankraft.de/charts.htm Ein schoenes Wochenende und vielen Dank. Marko

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The Setlist of Makuhari
by v2kaoru＠mac.com 14 Dec '02

14 Dec '02

Hi all, Here is a setlist of Tokyo. It was a very nice the show started from NUMBERS! (not The Robots nor EXPO 2000) ---- Intro Mine Dame und Herren... 1. Numbers 2. Computer World 3. It's more fun to Compute / Home Computer 4. Pocket Calculator (Dentaku) 5. EXPO 2000 6. The Man-Machine 7. The Robots 8. Tour de France 9. Autobahn 10. The Model 11. Neon Lights 12. Sellafield... / Radioactivity 13. Trans Europe Express / Metal on Metal Encore: Boing Boom Tschak / Music Non Stop ---- KAORU aus Tokio Japan P.S. See You tomorrow at the Zepp Osaka!

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Tokyo Shows
by Thiago Medeiros 14 Dec '02

14 Dec '02

Hello Friends, Since I didn't make it to Japan for the shows, did anyone record any of the shows? I'm crazy to listen to the setlist and crowd reaction. ---------------------------------- "Asa me o samashite Saisho ni Kangaeta koto wa nani?" ----- Original Message ----- From: <kraftwerk-request(a)mailman.xmission.com> To: <kraftwerk(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2002 11:27 AM Subject: Kraftwerk digest, Vol 1 #427 - 3 msgs > Send Kraftwerk mailing list submissions to > kraftwerk(a)mailman.xmission.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kraftwerk > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > kraftwerk-request(a)mailman.xmission.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > kraftwerk-admin(a)mailman.xmission.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Kraftwerk digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. live in Japan (Oystein Moe) > 2. Kraftwerk Electraglide 2002 Review (rhodri kasperbauer) > 3. The Setlist of Makuhari (v2kaoru(a)mac.com) > > --__--__-- > > Message: 1 > From: "Oystein Moe" <oyst1(a)hotmail.com> > To: kraftwerk(a)mailman.xmission.com > Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 07:37:04 +0000 > Subject: [Kraftwerk] live in Japan > Reply-To: kraftwerk(a)mailman.xmission.com > > So, > > yesteray I saw Kraftwerk live at Electraglide 2002, in Tokyo. > > time is running out in my internet caf so I'll be brief, if you want to know > more dont hesitate to ask. > > My main impression after this gig is that they've taken much of The Mix out > of the songs, many of the songs are back to the '70s arrangements more or > less. I've never seen them play Neon Lights before, that was great. They > have dropped the slow intro to Tour De France, and it started much like the > Kevorkian mix. Ralf plays keyboards, the others don't. (Henning added a new > bassline to the end of Music Non Stop though, that was tastic). One giant > backdrop, three video projectors. Most of the time the films are not in sync > with the music but Metal on Metal proves it can be done. Many of the films > are completely different to 1997/8. > > The Japanese crowd seemed to enjoy the show, but having dropped most of the > 1991 thump, and playing more of the slow songs, this music is really hard to > dance to! Ralf started out in english on Pocket Calc and then did all of the > japanese lyrics (best reception of the night). > > More to come if you need. > > Oh, and lots of new shirts, new to me at least, but no cycling shirts in > sight. > > Oystein > > _________________________________________________________________ > Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 03:00:25 -0800 (PST) > From: rhodri kasperbauer <kasperbauer(a)yahoo.com> > To: kraftwerk(a)mailman.xmission.com > Subject: [Kraftwerk] Kraftwerk Electraglide 2002 Review > Reply-To: kraftwerk(a)mailman.xmission.com > > Greetings, > > Sometimes in life it really is worth dong the things > you really want to...like going to Tokyo! This will > all ramble on, but hopefully give some of the gist of > being there. > > Would they even play? Would it be delayed? Well, we > finally got our flight tickets the day before, with > information that tickets should be available on the > door - for a location with a capacity of 20,000? > > Arrival in Japan at 8pm, doors to Electraglide open at > 9pm. Customs and immigration were also not simple - > they seemed to find it hard to understand that our > address in Japan could be the Makuhari Messe (former > 'Nippon Convention Centre') for one night only. > Anyway, then it was a dash to the bus (cheaper than a > U.S. $100-200 taxi fare), and, faster than the 3 > trains we would have needed to take (1.5 hours). > > Electraglide was being held in Chiba area, half way > between Tokyo and Narita airport. Get to bus stop > near hall - no sign of people. Start walking through > the Convention Halls - to get to 1-3, the location. > > Very obvious that this is a very young audience, > seemed to be mainly teenagers? (quite a difference > from U.S. tour of 1998). Luckily tickets were on sale > on door, so we were quickly in. People running the > event didn't seem much older. Really no security > check, especially as there were lockers to rent > inside! > > So, we have 3 halls - 1 live music, 1 djs,1 for > food/drink/hmv/merchandise. The merchandise was a > little disappointing the only t-shirts being 'man > machine'/'pocket calculator'/robots/new to me was the > 'lap tops and wire frame outfits. Definitely the most > poular stall, even if prices for the other shirts > (Wetherhall/Tim deluxe/ Electraglide 2002) were the > same. Given that everyone was given their free light > stick and Electraglide carrier bag (to put all their > purchases in)..it would have made sense to have a > fuller selection. > > One weird point is the Kraftwerk merchandise sign. > It's that 'high-tech computer script', but the actual > letters have been cut (by hand) out of white gaffa > tape!). > > Further trivia point. HMV were selling all night > (9pm-6am) at the stall next door. So, we have german > language and english language versions of cds..but how > come 'Computer World' is pressed in the UK (no > Japanese versions on sale)..highly ironic, given that > it was the crowd's favorite 'singalong-with-Ralf' > moment. > > Kraftwerk were due originally at 11pm, but signs said > it would be 11.30. About an hour before a few rows > started forming, staring into strobe lights facing the > audience. It was clear that some Japanese people are > very territorial, and, did not want to share their > space. Unlike U.S. audiences in 1998, it was also > clear that this was not the sort of audience that > wants to chat with foreigeners, a kinda of a shame. > > About a half hour before start, there seemed to be > some song playing about 'Music is an Attack', hard to > know if this was pre-arranged by band. The 3 > projectors were noticibly projecting onto the black > curtains, later there was a separate test of each > color of the 'under stage' lighting...then it was time > for the 'website transmission sound' (a different > version, but similar). > > Those strobe lights were removed, the front of stage > was checked, some press (with video camera) seemed to > be asked to remove their equipment (but later came > back). > > And then, to the only really frantic push and shove of > the night, the concert started. Unlike the still > photos I've seen froM Paris, the 3 screens/1 screen > worked very well for me. Basically, you have the > option for a full 'cinemascope-style' projection, or > it can be broken up (without different images running > on parts of the large screen). > > I'll try and think of some interesting points. Between > songs there were some long, very long pauses. For me, > it really did seem that the visuals were working very > much in sync with the sounds (i.e. pocket calculator). > Interesting to see how 'neon lights' had old footage > (from the original film/video), cut in with new, with > (perhaps not surprisingly) no band members appearing > (as they do in the original film. > > To me, it was clear that alot has changed. In some > ways there is a revisit back... Radioactivity started > off sounding akin to the original, building slowly > into the more familiar recent version. > > For me the biggest surprise was that 'The Model' was > back, nice to see the full back+white video (without > band cut-ins). Quite a straight-forward version, with > some emotive and touching singing from Ralf! > > > It was a little sad to see that this young Japanese > audience were somewhat muted. I am sure - given > pre-concert publicity - some were expecting the > 'wire-frame' suits/robots, which didn't appear. But > what they got was excellent sound, brilliant > performances. > > This concert certainly was a different ambience from > those I've seen in 1981/1991/1998, let's just sum it > up - at the end Florian leaves his equipment, makes it > half way to off-stage, then pauses and gives a bow. > > For us, it was superb - the more times you return to > this music the more it comes alive, the more it > expands/contracts/morphs into new directions and forms > > - my wife said that 'the Model' was the best of the > night, I believe 'Expo 200'; so we'll compromise on > 'Music Non Stop'. Anyway, these are some first > observations - more later. > Mit fruendlich grussen, > > Kasperbauer > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > http://mailplus.yahoo.com > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 22:08:59 +0900 > From: v2kaoru(a)mac.com > To: kraftwerk(a)mailman.xmission.com > Subject: [Kraftwerk] The Setlist of Makuhari > Reply-To: kraftwerk(a)mailman.xmission.com > > Hi all, > > > Here is a setlist of Tokyo. > It was a very nice the show started from NUMBERS! > (not The Robots nor EXPO 2000) > > ---- > > Intro > Mine Dame und Herren... > > 1. Numbers > 2. Computer World > 3. It's more fun to Compute / Home Computer > 4. Pocket Calculator (Dentaku) > 5. EXPO 2000 > 6. The Man-Machine > 7. The Robots > 8. Tour de France > 9. Autobahn > 10. The Model > 11. Neon Lights > 12. Sellafield... / Radioactivity > 13. Trans Europe Express / Metal on Metal > > Encore: Boing Boom Tschak / Music Non Stop > > > > ---- > KAORU > aus Tokio Japan > > P.S. See You tomorrow at the Zepp Osaka! > > > > > --__--__-- > > _______________________________________________ > Kraftwerk mailing list > Kraftwerk(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kraftwerk > > > End of Kraftwerk Digest >

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Kraftwerk Electraglide 2002 Review
by rhodri kasperbauer 14 Dec '02

14 Dec '02

Greetings, Sometimes in life it really is worth dong the things you really want to...like going to Tokyo! This will all ramble on, but hopefully give some of the gist of being there. Would they even play? Would it be delayed? Well, we finally got our flight tickets the day before, with information that tickets should be available on the door - for a location with a capacity of 20,000? Arrival in Japan at 8pm, doors to Electraglide open at 9pm. Customs and immigration were also not simple - they seemed to find it hard to understand that our address in Japan could be the Makuhari Messe (former 'Nippon Convention Centre') for one night only. Anyway, then it was a dash to the bus (cheaper than a U.S. $100-200 taxi fare), and, faster than the 3 trains we would have needed to take (1.5 hours). Electraglide was being held in Chiba area, half way between Tokyo and Narita airport. Get to bus stop near hall - no sign of people. Start walking through the Convention Halls - to get to 1-3, the location. Very obvious that this is a very young audience, seemed to be mainly teenagers? (quite a difference from U.S. tour of 1998). Luckily tickets were on sale on door, so we were quickly in. People running the event didn't seem much older. Really no security check, especially as there were lockers to rent inside! So, we have 3 halls - 1 live music, 1 djs,1 for food/drink/hmv/merchandise. The merchandise was a little disappointing the only t-shirts being 'man machine'/'pocket calculator'/robots/new to me was the 'lap tops and wire frame outfits. Definitely the most poular stall, even if prices for the other shirts (Wetherhall/Tim deluxe/ Electraglide 2002) were the same. Given that everyone was given their free light stick and Electraglide carrier bag (to put all their purchases in)..it would have made sense to have a fuller selection. One weird point is the Kraftwerk merchandise sign. It's that 'high-tech computer script', but the actual letters have been cut (by hand) out of white gaffa tape!). Further trivia point. HMV were selling all night (9pm-6am) at the stall next door. So, we have german language and english language versions of cds..but how come 'Computer World' is pressed in the UK (no Japanese versions on sale)..highly ironic, given that it was the crowd's favorite 'singalong-with-Ralf' moment. Kraftwerk were due originally at 11pm, but signs said it would be 11.30. About an hour before a few rows started forming, staring into strobe lights facing the audience. It was clear that some Japanese people are very territorial, and, did not want to share their space. Unlike U.S. audiences in 1998, it was also clear that this was not the sort of audience that wants to chat with foreigeners, a kinda of a shame. About a half hour before start, there seemed to be some song playing about 'Music is an Attack', hard to know if this was pre-arranged by band. The 3 projectors were noticibly projecting onto the black curtains, later there was a separate test of each color of the 'under stage' lighting...then it was time for the 'website transmission sound' (a different version, but similar). Those strobe lights were removed, the front of stage was checked, some press (with video camera) seemed to be asked to remove their equipment (but later came back). And then, to the only really frantic push and shove of the night, the concert started. Unlike the still photos I've seen froM Paris, the 3 screens/1 screen worked very well for me. Basically, you have the option for a full 'cinemascope-style' projection, or it can be broken up (without different images running on parts of the large screen). I'll try and think of some interesting points. Between songs there were some long, very long pauses. For me, it really did seem that the visuals were working very much in sync with the sounds (i.e. pocket calculator). Interesting to see how 'neon lights' had old footage (from the original film/video), cut in with new, with (perhaps not surprisingly) no band members appearing (as they do in the original film. To me, it was clear that alot has changed. In some ways there is a revisit back... Radioactivity started off sounding akin to the original, building slowly into the more familiar recent version. For me the biggest surprise was that 'The Model' was back, nice to see the full back+white video (without band cut-ins). Quite a straight-forward version, with some emotive and touching singing from Ralf! It was a little sad to see that this young Japanese audience were somewhat muted. I am sure - given pre-concert publicity - some were expecting the 'wire-frame' suits/robots, which didn't appear. But what they got was excellent sound, brilliant performances. This concert certainly was a different ambience from those I've seen in 1981/1991/1998, let's just sum it up - at the end Florian leaves his equipment, makes it half way to off-stage, then pauses and gives a bow. For us, it was superb - the more times you return to this music the more it comes alive, the more it expands/contracts/morphs into new directions and forms - my wife said that 'the Model' was the best of the night, I believe 'Expo 200'; so we'll compromise on 'Music Non Stop'. Anyway, these are some first observations - more later. Mit fruendlich grussen, Kasperbauer __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

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live in Japan
by Oystein Moe 14 Dec '02

14 Dec '02

So, yesteray I saw Kraftwerk live at Electraglide 2002, in Tokyo. time is running out in my internet caf so I'll be brief, if you want to know more dont hesitate to ask. My main impression after this gig is that they've taken much of The Mix out of the songs, many of the songs are back to the '70s arrangements more or less. I've never seen them play Neon Lights before, that was great. They have dropped the slow intro to Tour De France, and it started much like the Kevorkian mix. Ralf plays keyboards, the others don't. (Henning added a new bassline to the end of Music Non Stop though, that was tastic). One giant backdrop, three video projectors. Most of the time the films are not in sync with the music but Metal on Metal proves it can be done. Many of the films are completely different to 1997/8. The Japanese crowd seemed to enjoy the show, but having dropped most of the 1991 thump, and playing more of the slow songs, this music is really hard to dance to! Ralf started out in english on Pocket Calc and then did all of the japanese lyrics (best reception of the night). More to come if you need. Oh, and lots of new shirts, new to me at least, but no cycling shirts in sight. Oystein _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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Ausgezeichnet!
by Marston, Richard 13 Dec '02

13 Dec '02

Alle The www.kraftwerk.com cycle shirt is available again!! www.klingklang.com Now there's a reason to go training again. See you on l'Alpe d'Huez 13/07/13 ;-) This email may contain confidential material. If you were not an intended recipient, please notify the sender and delete all copies. We may monitor email to and from our network.

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