October 2002 - Kraftwerk - mailman.xmission.com

Re: [Kraftwerk] re: Album Cancellation
by Andréas Hagström 11 Oct '02

11 Oct '02

Robert wrote: I belive that the Video for Electric Cafe was produced alongside with the album, I would guess that it could be one reason for the album to be delayed. According to Rebecka Allen: "I did start the video before the music was ready. I started in 1984 and finished it just as the album was completed in 1986." /AndrÃ©as _________________________________________________________________ PÃ¥ MSN hittar du det roliga, intressanta och anvÃ¤ndbara pÃ¥ internet: http://www.msn.se

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Re: startin' a mature discussion again with a formerly highly unreasonable guy ... ;-)
by Oh Jay 11 Oct '02

11 Oct '02

WOW_!!! >:-O i'm indeed VERY_SURPRISED again , after i've read , what the (in)famous "mr. arthurbahn" has written in his - by now i'm even more surprised !!! - properly edited reply below : > i think, oh jay, what many ppl here don't understand: > why are u soooooo aggressive? oh ... that's actually very easy to explain : simply because i prefer to receive the messages of this list compiled in one big message all together , called a ( daily ) digest & when certain people CONSTANTLY_&_CONTINOUSLY use the html format to post their messages here & don't even edit their replies , things like the almost endless amount of highly unreadable crap from people like "dual reaction" ( not only because of the guy's horrible english , which is excusable to some extend !!! ) will make these digests a VERY_HARD_TASK to read & find out , who has posted what in reply to whom !!! *deep_sigh* :-o anyway ... i've once reminded the people very kindly to PLEEEASE_EDIT_THEIR_REPLIES & think of us poor digest receivers , but some jerks simply ignored ALL those kind reminders ... or they were jus' TOO_LAZY or even TOO_STUPID to change it !!! :-/ that's what indeed REALLY_ANNOYS_ME_PERSONALLY & @ some point in time made me sooo aggressive , sorry !!! :-o > ur kinda style of writing is completeley extreme. nope , not @ all !!! ;-) it's jus' like AN_INDIVIDUAL_HANDWRITIN' & it's nothin' more or less than MY_INDIVIDUAL_"VIRTUAL"_STYLE_OF_EXPRESSION , which is simply UNIQUE in its way ... no matter , if u like it or not !!! *G+* ;-) but i know that some people sadly DON'T_LIKE this kind of ***_INDIVIDUALITY_*** & that's what makes me sad & disappointed too !!! *sigh* :-o > y not be a little bit friendlier? i was ... & also can be VERY_FRIENDLY to reasonable people , who act like mature individuals , like almost ALL my friends on this list & elsewhere too know very well !!! *sincerest_look* fyi : in the end it's ***_ALL_*** jus' a matter of RESPECT for each other's INDIVIDUALITY_&_STYLE , as long as this individuality & style is NOT_ONLY supposed to be SILLY_&_DELIBERATELY_ANNOYIN' , which some people certainly think of my individuality & style , but ONLY because they DON'T or simply WON'T understand me & my way of doin' things like i use to do it , so they jus' DON'T or WON'T respect ANYTHIN' that's diff'rent from THEIR_NORM , which is rather sad & really DOESN'T_FIT to a real "kraftwerkfan" ... imho , of course !!! :-o > nobody wants to hurt u. nobody! well ... MAYBE u think so , but otoh u ( & some others as well !!! :-o ) did jus' that , arthur !!! *deep_sigh* :-o > best wishes (und das mein ich so *g*) ... & to your surprise i would even say "peace , borther !!!" in this case , as this was THE_FIRST_MESSAGE since A_VERY_LONG_TIME that showed me that u REALLY_CARE ... again ... for what reason soever & so i'll take your word for granted & finally settle this argument & can only hope & pray that somebody will tell this "dual reaction" guy now , how to properly post a message here & also how to EDIT his replies & DON'T post in html format any longer !!! *indeed_very_hopeful_look* 'nuff said for now , folx !!! :-) however ... many greetinx TO_Y'_ALL_!!! ;-) oh jay , who's hopin' for the best , but still expects ... u certainly know the rest of this sentence , don't u , fellows !? *XLG* ;-))) *~\^/~*

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Re: startin' a mature discussion again with a reasonable guy ... ;-)
by Oh Jay 11 Oct '02

11 Oct '02

first of all , let me say that i'm indeed positively surprised about soleil's reaction to my "threat" , because the great majority of u certainly remembers that we both had "our lil' flame war" about another topic some time ago & i've even killfiled his addy for a week or so , but after we've jus' recently exchanged some private messages , it seems that he not only KNOWS , but also UNDERSTANDS , why i'm sooo annoyed about certain individuals & their totally unreasonable , if not to say utterly silly or even plain stupid behavior here !!! From: Soleil Lapierre <lapierrs(a)cuug.ab.ca> > Terrorism is never the answer, OJ. well ... u ( & maybe lots of others too ) may call this "virtual terrorism" , but i simply call it SOME_DISCIPLINARY_ACTIONS_!!! that's indeed A_BIG_DIFF'RENCE ... imho , of course !!! ;-) > You're succeeding only in identifying yourself > as the biggest problem poster on the list. yes , i'm indeed postin' ABOUT "the biggest problem" on this list ... currently !!! *sly_grin* ;-) > Here's something more useful to post. thanx a lot for doin' that , soleil , but i suppose that utter ignoramuses like "mr. arthurbahn" , "dual reaction" etc. simply DON'T_CARE_AT_ALL about it !!! *deeply_disappointed_sigh* :-o > Note especially the last point in the courtesy section, which should > describe the next action of anyone who is annoyed with the current > situation. [ ... ] > * If someone else is misbehaving on the list, please report > the problem to the list owner rather than trying to deal with it > yourself. honestly , i can only hope that AS_MUCH_PEOPLE_AS_POSSIBLE will do jus' this !!! *utmost_honest_look* MAYBE we'll even get an answer ... sooner or later & this absent list owner comes back to seriously kick some asses here !!! *hopeful_look* yeah , i know ... i'm GUILTY of havin' violated the list rules or guidelines more than once in the past myself , but i've ***_NEVER_EVER_*** started a flame war or somethin' like that & i've ONLY reacted to some totally unreasonable individuals & their "misbehavior" here & if the owner decides to boot me off the list too , it's perfectly okay for me ... but ONLY as long as utter ignoramuses like "mr. arthurbahn" , "dual reaction" etc. will be booted too , to FINALLY_BRING_SOME_JUSTICE_BACK to this by now utterly silly kindergarten , which once was a healthy & sane community of fellow "kraftwerkfans" !!! *sigh* :-o i'll THEN , BUT_ONLY_THEN even respect his decision to not only remove , but also ban me from this list !!! *sincerest_look* > Robomoderation > > The list software watches for certain kinds of "problem" postings and > forwards them to the list owner for handling. If your message does not > appear on the list in a reasonable amount of time, this is likely what has > happened. Email the list owner if you have any questions about a missing > message. well ... i really DON'T think that this kind of "robomoderation" was EVER in effect here ... since the list was moved to become a mailman list !!! yes , it has indeed worked - albeit VERY_FAULTY_!!! :-/ - @ the time as this silly major(malfunction)domo program was in effect to handle the postings to the list !!! *sigh* :-o anyway ... as u can clearly see by now , i've ***_NOT_*** reposted the whole last digests to the list , but i've decided to repost them ONLY to those people - without further commentary , of course !!! - , who haven't edited their replies @ least slightly & still post their messages in html format here , to actually annoy THEM as much as they've annoyed me personally , so DON'T_WORRY , folx ... i'm MUCH_MORE_REASONABLE than u might have expected from your new "list dictator" !!! *hehehe* ;-))) however ... many greetinx to all my friends & fellow "kraftwerkfans" here , oh jay , who's indeed STILL_HOPIN' for some INSIGHT_&_UNDERSTANDIN' ... especially for all the by now really pooor daily digest receivers of this list !!! *still_hopeful_look* *~\^/~* > --__--__-- > > _______________________________________________ > Kraftwerk mailing list > Kraftwerk(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kraftwerk > > End of Kraftwerk Digest ;-)

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SV: [Kraftwerk] KW Likelihood of forthcoming releases
by johan.andersson＠allers.aller.se 11 Oct '02

11 Oct '02

Otherwise, the coolest thing imaginable would be if they included the full cubase-files, the ultimate interactive multimedia dvd, and maybe the 3d - models used in their videos, that could keep a lot of us fans busy for the next 15 years ;-)))), that is: until they the NEXT DVD or whatever the media is called then... Dreaming / Johan -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Från: dasfestistzuendeaus(a)yahoo.de [mailto:dasfestistzuendeaus@yahoo.de] Skickat: den 11 oktober 2002 13:27 Till: kraftwerk(a)mailman.xmission.com Ämne: Re: [Kraftwerk] KW Likelihood of forthcoming releases Luca Dassi schrieb am 11.10.2002 10:04 Uhr: > You're damn right - the idea of an entire DVD filled with KW data is really > enticing and I'm sure Ralf is concerned about perpetuating his work and > allowing others to "play" with KW music. > Given their attitude at "refining" their current tracks instead of composing > new ones, I think that such a release is a tad more likely to happen than an > entire new album. I'm not quite sure about that, even it would be a charming idea. But we all know: They are presenting their pieces nowadays as a kind of repertory plays (they call it "work in progress", I presume), and concerning remixes they seem to be ticklish. AFAIK, they never gave away the control; each one of the official remixes circulating around has their blessing. I remember that Yello did this some years ago, but it's hardly imaginable to me that KW will ever give their material to other hands without having any possibility to control the results. -jan -- feel free to visit http://www.jan-reetze.de __________________________________________________________________ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de Möchten Sie mit einem Gruß antworten? http://grusskarten.yahoo.de _______________________________________________ Kraftwerk mailing list Kraftwerk(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kraftwerk <<Fil: ENVELOPE.TXT>>

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Elektrobeats
by Marston, Richard 11 Oct '02

11 Oct '02

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Languages
by Enrique Correa 11 Oct '02

11 Oct '02

omegaChance wrote: > Where do they find all the time to learn these > languages...[...]? "Where do they find all the time?" You are joking, right? E

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Re: the everlastin' wrath of "the mighty & powerful" oh jay is now upon u , suckers !!! *utmost_grrrim* >:-O
by Oh Jay 11 Oct '02

11 Oct '02

From: "Luca Dassi" <kraftwerk(a)xeed.com> > This was bound to happen... well ... if u know that "this was bound to happen" , ***_WHY_*** were u so UTTERLY_STUPID & posted your brainless message here then , eh ??? :-o i'm really sorry , but i ONCE thought that u were an intelligent guy , luca , but by now i think u are as SILLY_&_IDIOTIC - if not to say MENTALLY_RETARDED_!!! - as "mr. arthurbahn" , "dual reaction" & some other people that i don't even have to mention here anymore !!! :-/ > I'm crossing swords with the mighy and powerful OJ. yes ... u did & therefore i've not only actively killfiled your current addy , but will also reserve the right to relentlessly flood u with spam etc. ... whatever i think is appropriate to get rid of u & to annoy u that much that u either SHUT_THE_FAQ_UP or finally leave the list for good , because THERE'LL_BE_***_NO_***_OTHER_OPTION_LEFT for u nor for anybody else , who'll follow in your footsteps !!! PERIOD_!!! btw : as u might remember , i've quit my online "friendship" ( if it ever was one !!! :-o ) with kevin busby - of which we haven't heard since then !!! - & also sent people like rob evans , this eduardo guy from brazil & some others into "virtual" hell , from which they haven't reappeared since then , because all those people have personally annoyed me MORE_THAN_NECESSARY & therefore had to learn it the very hard way ... & so will u ... right now , sorry !!! > Dear fellow, you might remember that you already played this trick > in June and you were spotted by several members. yep , but some of them have overstepped a border , which they shouldn't have crossed - jus' like this time !!! :-/ - & so ... they were "virtually" ***_ELIMINATED_*** by me ... & i'll do jus' the same with u - see above !!! NO_MERCY_WITH_UTTER_IDIOTS & "virtual" death to EV'RYBODY , who annoys me TOO_MUCH_!!! PERIOD_!!! that's MY_LAW & i'll now FORCE it upon U & EV'RYBODY else , who won't follow the rules that i'll set up for this list RIGHT_NOW - see below !!! > You also used another identity in the past (namely, ..::=|X|=::.. ) > to the same purpose (pretending to be a casual poster > while trying to inflame the discussion and denigrate other members) so what ??? it's my damned right to be AS_UNREASONABLE_&_SILLY_AS_Y'_ALL , if u DON'T or - better to say - ***_WON'T_*** listen anymore to reasonable & logical arguments by whomever !!! PERIOD_!!! that's what u'll get NOW for annoyin' me & also others WAY_TOO_MUCH , sucker !!! THERE'LL_BE_***_NO_***_POINT_OF_RETURN_ANYMORE_!!! this is NOW "a full scale war" & i really DON'T_CARE anymore , if this list will be completely destroyed in the end ... or whatever will happen to it , as U & your utterly silly & idiotic ilk simply DON'T_DESERVE anythin' better than this TOTALLY_RIDICULOUS_KINDERGARTEN_BULLSHIT anymore !!! > Could you please, please behave like a grown-up first of all , "mr. arthurbahn" , "dual reaction" & some others - INCL._U_!!! - have to behave like grown-ups ... & THEN , but ONLY_THEN we can maturely discuss some further !!! got that message ??? > and decide whether to stay or go and keep to your decisions for a while? fyi : whenever i said that i would leave this list , it was ONLY to fool such annoyin' individuals like "mr. arthurbahn" etc. & to shut them up then !!! if u would know me a lil' bit better , then u should know by now that I'LL_***_NEVER_EVER_SURRENDER_***_!!! "success or ( either 'virtual' or even real ) death !!!" is MY_ULTIMATE_MAXIM_!!! that's what u should better remember the next time u start messin' around with me !!! > Without hiding behind current or future email aliases? if the people on this list will RESPECT me as oh jay , then i'll ONLY post under this addy , but IF_NOT ... don't even dare to think about the consequences !!! > I believe in freedom of speech me too , but freedom of speech WITHOUT_RESPECT is jus' an empty phrase & as RIDICULOUS as a mailin' list without a moderator or ANYBODY , who takes care of it !!! PERIOD_!!! > we all know that the absence of a moderator bothers you... > nevertheless, it's your problem, not mine. u're DEAD_WRONG_!!! IT'S_***_OUR_***_PROBLEM & therefore i simply WON'T stop to DEMAND a strong moderator or @ least the COMPLETE_RETIREMENT of such annoyin' individuals like "mr. arthurbahn" , "dual reaction" etc. ... or this list will die in flames ... sooner or later !!! ***_PERIOD_***_!!! > This is everyone's playground, these are everybody's rules, so EITHER ev'ryone is playin' nicely & obey those rules from now on ... or they'll have to suffer tremendously under my wrath in the future !!! that's really ALL i have to say in this case !!! > a lot of boys & girls are playing happily together, > if you don't like them just go playing elsewhere. sorry , but i'll rather BURN_DOWN_THIS_"PLAYGROUND" , than to surrender , "mate" !!! open fire on ALL perpetrators !!! oh jay *~\^/~*

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Re: [Kraftwerk] kraftwerk and whitney houston
by Latthew Marge 11 Oct '02

11 Oct '02

perhaps someone's offended by this? http://yab.yellowalienbabies.co.uk/bobbybeats/bobbybeats%20-%20kraft%20twai…'re%20still%20the%20telephone.mp3 >From: "arthur brehm" <akbrehm(a)web.de> >Reply-To: kraftwerk(a)mailman.xmission.com >To: <kraftwerk(a)mailman.xmission.com> >Subject: [Kraftwerk] kraftwerk and whitney houston >Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 23:10:57 +0200 > >got soulseek now. i found a "piece of music" *harrharr*, >in which whitney houston sings "wanna dance with somebody" to >the music of "nummern". sounds very funny ;-)))) > > >_______________________________________________ >Kraftwerk mailing list >Kraftwerk(a)mailman.xmission.com >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kraftwerk _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

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Re: Fw: [Kraftwerk] Re: the everlastin' wrath of BOREDOM
by Petter Duvander 10 Oct '02

10 Oct '02

ok. so this is a meta-meta-mail to all you meta-mailers out there saying you're sick of this or trying to get everyone not to answer the flames because they only get worse. well GUESS WHAT, WE WERE ALL DOING THAT! the only ones who weren't doing it was YOU. yes YOU! and OH MY GOD, now you've got me to land in OH JAY SHIFT LOCK AND PERSONAL AGGRESSION MODE!! _!_!__!! oh well. this could actually sometimes be more interesting than discussing the colour of Wolfgangs underwear. -----Original Message----- From: "Shaun" <sv(a)creative-genius.fsnet.co.uk> To: <kraftwerk(a)mailman.xmission.com> Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 21:53:52 +0100 Subject: Fw: [Kraftwerk] Re: the everlastin' wrath of BOREDOM FUCKING 'A' Mark, well said! I've just got back from a few days away and came back to find a hundred or so postings that consisted mostly of the neurotic ravings of a few members of this list. I ain't gonna mention names, you know who you are. FUCK OFF AND TAKE YOUR immature rantings somewhere else! I don't want to have to wade thru all this shit everyday, I want to read INTERESTING stuff! Shaun. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Reed" <gentle.anarchist(a)virgin.net> To: <kraftwerk(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 8:45 PM Subject: Re: [Kraftwerk] Re: the everlastin' wrath of BOREDOM Oh Jesus you lot, grow up, shut up, and stop clogging my inbox with your puerile crap. I ain't taking sides. I'm talking to ALL of you. _______________________________________________ Kraftwerk mailing list Kraftwerk(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kraftwerk _______________________________________________ Kraftwerk mailing list Kraftwerk(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kraftwerk

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Autobahn Emil Schult design
by Rafael Salazar 10 Oct '02

10 Oct '02

Hi all, I'm trying to do a big poster with autobahn Emil Schult design. Do you know where can I found a high quality picture (min 300ppp and big size ) for this? Thanx in advance

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