Well, I use winamp for my music and I am quite happy with the player. Tried to install the "MP4 Input Plugin for Winamp 2004-07-09 MP4/AAC input plugin for Winamp2 and Winamp5, based on FAAD2 (supports the same profiles). Includes MP4 tagging comjpatible with Apple iTunes." And the only popup I get is an error report that winamp has to be shut down... what the fcuk is going wrong!? Oh, Jezz, the other files are great! Maarten _________________________________________________________________ Ook een gouden buddy worden in Messenger? Go for gold! http://mobile.msn.com/?lc=nl-nl