regarding 9/11-related posts - and "complaints" about the same: the argument that "this isn't the place" to discuss such matters is a fallacy - as anyone who isn't brainwashed knows, one of the biggest problems is the fact that these things are NOT DISCUSSED ENOUGH and the "helpful" advice given to posters of 9/11-related items to go to "other places" where these things are discussed is really a sham as well - because the people that give that advice are pretty much guaranteed to never visit those so-called "other places" - which is EXACTLY why the discussion should NOT be relegated to only those specified places so here's some REAL advice to 9/11-related posters: when you get "complaints" about the content: IGNORE THEM remember, when anyone bothers enough to take the time to complain about your postings, that means they are brainwashed and/or on the WRONG SIDE, even if they claim to "agree" with what you've said if people really don't want to discuss it, they won't - and they won't complain, either, they'll ignore it, if they really agree and are on the right side only those on the wrong side will complain, not only because they can't stand to lose control of system they want to run like a fascist post office, but because they can't stand the fact that everyone doesn't think exactly like them - and they HATE the fact that there are people SMARTER than them (they also hate people that are less brainwashed, too, even though they have, for the most part, either brainwashed themselves are let themselves willingly be brainwashed - still, though, they recognize someone who isn't - and can't stand to see freedom of thought when they only have freedom FROM thought) SO AGAIN: when "complaints" surface, IGNORE THEM - it is only a trick to get you to stop talking about what you REALLY want to talk about and to start an unrelated argument with them that they will then try to use against you to try to push you out of here, claiming that you are a "disruption" (even though they are the disruptive party) it is a classic tactic used by those with taliban hearts and nazi minds so if you think it's important - share it and KEEP ON POSTING!
that's bollocks. fuck off. take your it away somewhere else. there's plenty of othe rplaces to discuss 9/11. THIS IS NOT ONE OF THEM. ----- Original Message ----- From: <our.webstuff@verizon.net> To: <klf@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 7:07 PM Subject: [KLF] tips for 9/11-related submitters
Cant we get back on to "Other Things" KLF, ORB, B&J, Blacksmoke and that sort of thing???? The 911 thing is FUCKING OLD on this list. Simon, GIVE IT A FUCKING REST!!!!!!!! OR GET THE FUCK OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! RMStringer ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ -----Original Message----- From: klf-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:klf-bounces@mailman.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Mark Reed Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 12:15 PM To: All bound for Mu-Mu Land. Subject: Re: [KLF] tips for 9/11-related submitters that's bollocks. fuck off. take your it away somewhere else. there's plenty of othe rplaces to discuss 9/11. THIS IS NOT ONE OF THEM. ----- Original Message ----- From: <our.webstuff@verizon.net> To: <klf@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 7:07 PM Subject: [KLF] tips for 9/11-related submitters _______________________________________________ KLF mailing list KLF@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/klf
On Fri, Sep 12, 2003 at 04:11:19PM -0600, RMStringer wrote:
Cant we get back on to "Other Things" KLF, ORB, B&J, Blacksmoke and that sort of thing???? The 911 thing is FUCKING OLD on this list. Simon, GIVE IT A FUCKING REST!!!!!!!! OR GET THE FUCK OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No! Becuase that would be considered "supression of information and truth," and we all know how much the "free minded" folk hate that! Feh. In ontopic news, according to the industrial faq (http://www.relst8.net/rmifaq.htm), KLF stands for Killmotherfuckingdepechemode Like rightFuckingnow. -- . \ ` ' / . ._` __^__ '_. Loki Ambridous von Esling [()=()] RELST8 - http://www.relst8.net /_____\ Justified
this is quite odd really, just put [OT] in there? Please (IMO) you can post what you want but dont think that objection turns you into... "those with taliban hearts and nazi minds" I think the people who say 'this mailing list is for KLF talk, so lets talk KLF' do have a point, as its the KLF mailing list. If you truely believe what you have posted then you are very special, actually it's you dictating what people are if they dont agree with you, so you have become the subject of your own post, wow. Having read your post again you look like a passionate person trying to encourage people to post what they want, but actually do the opposite.
remember, when anyone bothers enough to take the time to complain about your postings, that means they are brainwashed and/or on the WRONG SIDE, even if they claim to "agree" with what you've said
This is great, it must be some sort of humour I dont understand, as now, by responding to this post i am now brainwashed!
if people really don't want to discuss it, they won't - and they won't complain, either, they'll ignore it, if they really agree and are on the right side
I was on the right side before posting this!
only those on the wrong side will complain, not only because they can't stand to lose control of system they want to run like a fascist post office, but because they can't stand the fact that everyone doesn't think exactly like them - and they HATE the fact that there are people SMARTER than them
Again, please tell me this is a joke, referring to my earlier thought "I think the people who say 'this mailing list is for KLF talk, so lets talk KLF' do have a point, as its the KLF mailing list." surely doesnt turn them in fasciest post masters and that they feel the off topic people are smarter than them! Although i wouldnt class myself as smart (especially as i feel I have fallen for some joke I dont understand!!)
(they also hate people that are less brainwashed, too, even though they have, for the most part, either brainwashed themselves are let themselves willingly be brainwashed -
still, though, they recognize someone who isn't - and can't stand to see freedom of thought when they only have freedom FROM thought)
SO AGAIN: when "complaints" surface, IGNORE THEM - it is only a trick to get you to stop talking about what you REALLY want to talk about and to start an unrelated argument with them that they will then try to use against you to try to push you out of here, claiming that you are a "disruption" (even though they are the disruptive party)
it is a classic tactic used by those with taliban hearts and nazi minds
so if you think it's important - share it
and
KEEP ON POSTING!
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You're on drugs aren't you. No, really, it's okay. The hardest thing is admitting you have a problem. I reckon unsubscribing from the list is the best bet. I really don't want my inbox filled with all this shite. Anyone who's still interested in the EP I'm putting together (now known as "Thank You For the Mu(sic)", drop me an email off-list. Actually, I might add a KLF forum here: www.cloud9ine.com/forum/ - if there's anyone left on this list that wants to discuss KLF-related topics that is... Over and f***ing well Out
Yes I'm still interested in the EP. Just following your instructions! :) On Sat, Sep 13, 2003 at 12:12:11AM +0100, Chris Peel wrote:
You're on drugs aren't you. No, really, it's okay. The hardest thing is admitting you have a problem.
I reckon unsubscribing from the list is the best bet. I really don't want my inbox filled with all this shite. Anyone who's still interested in the EP I'm putting together (now known as "Thank You For the Mu(sic)", drop me an email off-list.
Actually, I might add a KLF forum here: www.cloud9ine.com/forum/ - if there's anyone left on this list that wants to discuss KLF-related topics that is...
Over and f***ing well Out
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Yes, I am interested. Both in the EP and a better place to discuss the KLF. :-( ------ Thomas Touzimsky "Sometimes I think of letting go and never looking back and never moving forward so there would never be a past." ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Peel" <munkie@cloud9ine.com> To: "'All bound for Mu-Mu Land.'" <klf@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2003 1:12 AM Subject: RE: [KLF] tips for 9/11-related submitters
You're on drugs aren't you. No, really, it's okay. The hardest thing is admitting you have a problem.
I reckon unsubscribing from the list is the best bet. I really don't want my inbox filled with all this shite. Anyone who's still interested in the EP I'm putting together (now known as "Thank You For the Mu(sic)", drop me an email off-list.
Actually, I might add a KLF forum here: www.cloud9ine.com/forum/ - if there's anyone left on this list that wants to discuss KLF-related topics that is...
Over and f***ing well Out
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On Sat, Sep 13, 2003 at 01:34:27AM +0200, Thomas Touzimsky wrote:
Yes, I am interested. Both in the EP and a better place to discuss the KLF. :-(
well, after all it is september, lots of kids now have internet access again, and mindless free speach... give it a few more weeks and they'll be weeded out -- . \ ` ' / . ._` __^__ '_. Loki Ambridous von Esling [()=()] RELST8 - http://www.relst8.net /_____\ Justified
From http://www.undercover.com.au/news/2003/20030911_blacksmoke.html:
"James Cauty, the founding member of The KLF and The Orb, has released a download to mark the second anniversary of September 11. The track 'Silent Night' is only available as a download and will be only available today (September 11). "I recorded the track a while ago and a few days ago I realized it was going to be the 911 anniversary. We wanted to respond to what was going on" James tells Undercover News. 'Silent Night' is released under the name Blacksmoke. "Blacksmoke is an occasional art collective and musical group" he says. "We have just done an EP called 'Fuck the Fucking Fuckers'. It is a concept EP, the concept being fuck America basically and fuck weapons of mass destruction. It is like a protest record. It is the kind of record that you would want to put on if you are going to go out on a riot. We do feel quite angry about what has been going on with the war". News of the September 11 attack in 2001 broke early afternoon in England. "I was in my workshop. A friend of mine called me and told me to turn the tele on" James says. "I was like everybody else. I was really shocked. After that I couldn't even look at the images. It was too much. Recently, all those images and all those sounds, it feels like it is now okay to comment on it and talk about it. That is how this whole Blacksmoke thing came about. I felt it was okay to say something about it if we wanted to". The Blacksmoke collective features two other members "James Fogerty, he is a 24 year old heavy metal bloke who lives with his parent" he says. "There is myself and Keir who is our project manager. This is an imagined band that is in our heads. We don't exist as a proper rock band to perform or anything. It is a half imagined heavy metal thing. The music we do is extremely noisey". After the success of The KLF, James dropped completely out of the music industry. "I have been doing art, painting" he says. "I did some Blacksmoke stamps of mass destruction which came out 6 months ago. It is quite interesting getting back into music after all his time". The reigniting of his music career is not leading to a reformation of The KLF. "I hear rumours as well" he says. "I do work with Bill (Drummond) on other projects but we are not going to reform or anything like that. Maybe at the end of the world we might do a gig. There are no plans at the moment. I left the whole music thing. I haven't done anything for 10 years. It was only the 911 thing when I started to get some ideas". Unlike in Australia where the hits of KLF still demand daily radio play, James isn't confronted withthe dilema driving along in his car in England and coming across an old KLF song on the radio. "It doesn't come up on the radio. Things have moved on" he says. "I don't really listen to pop on the radio. In the UK it has moved into history which is fine. I like that really. I do still get PRS (royalty) cheques but they are all from Australia". Blacksmoke is not "the new KLF" either. "It is not a big deal like the KLF. It is more underground and angry" he says. "It is not geared towards the charts or radio. It is more angry noise". You can download Blacksmokes 'Silent Night' today only at: www.blacksmoke.org/911.htm This download will be withdrawn on 12th September 2003. by Paul Cashmere" L8rs, Nick ;-)
I did not get this track. Did anyone?? IF so, please up it to my ftp and I can host it for the rest of the list. RMStringer ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ -----Original Message----- From: klf-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:klf-bounces@mailman.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Nick King Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 5:39 PM To: 'All bound for Mu-Mu Land.' Subject: [KLF] 9/11 - On-topic - Jimmy Cauty Interview
From http://www.undercover.com.au/news/2003/20030911_blacksmoke.html:
"James Cauty, the founding member of The KLF and The Orb, has released a download to mark the second anniversary of September 11. The track 'Silent Night' is only available as a download and will be only available today (September 11). "I recorded the track a while ago and a few days ago I realized it was going to be the 911 anniversary. We wanted to respond to what was going on" James tells Undercover News. 'Silent Night' is released under the name Blacksmoke. "Blacksmoke is an occasional art collective and musical group" he says. "We have just done an EP called 'Fuck the Fucking Fuckers'. It is a concept EP, the concept being fuck America basically and fuck weapons of mass destruction. It is like a protest record. It is the kind of record that you would want to put on if you are going to go out on a riot. We do feel quite angry about what has been going on with the war". News of the September 11 attack in 2001 broke early afternoon in England. "I was in my workshop. A friend of mine called me and told me to turn the tele on" James says. "I was like everybody else. I was really shocked. After that I couldn't even look at the images. It was too much. Recently, all those images and all those sounds, it feels like it is now okay to comment on it and talk about it. That is how this whole Blacksmoke thing came about. I felt it was okay to say something about it if we wanted to". The Blacksmoke collective features two other members "James Fogerty, he is a 24 year old heavy metal bloke who lives with his parent" he says. "There is myself and Keir who is our project manager. This is an imagined band that is in our heads. We don't exist as a proper rock band to perform or anything. It is a half imagined heavy metal thing. The music we do is extremely noisey". After the success of The KLF, James dropped completely out of the music industry. "I have been doing art, painting" he says. "I did some Blacksmoke stamps of mass destruction which came out 6 months ago. It is quite interesting getting back into music after all his time". The reigniting of his music career is not leading to a reformation of The KLF. "I hear rumours as well" he says. "I do work with Bill (Drummond) on other projects but we are not going to reform or anything like that. Maybe at the end of the world we might do a gig. There are no plans at the moment. I left the whole music thing. I haven't done anything for 10 years. It was only the 911 thing when I started to get some ideas". Unlike in Australia where the hits of KLF still demand daily radio play, James isn't confronted withthe dilema driving along in his car in England and coming across an old KLF song on the radio. "It doesn't come up on the radio. Things have moved on" he says. "I don't really listen to pop on the radio. In the UK it has moved into history which is fine. I like that really. I do still get PRS (royalty) cheques but they are all from Australia". Blacksmoke is not "the new KLF" either. "It is not a big deal like the KLF. It is more underground and angry" he says. "It is not geared towards the charts or radio. It is more angry noise". You can download Blacksmokes 'Silent Night' today only at: www.blacksmoke.org/911.htm This download will be withdrawn on 12th September 2003. by Paul Cashmere" L8rs, Nick ;-) _______________________________________________ KLF mailing list KLF@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/klf
No disrespect but I am frustrated with all the mentions of your FTP site and only being able to get in once out of trying on maybe 15 different occasions, and that one time was terribly slow. 12.208.220.226 KLF Time KLF Time ERROR:> Requested action not taken (e.g., file or directory not found, no access). ERROR:> Failed to establish data socket. Just a comment. -----Original Message----- From: klf-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:klf-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of RMStringer Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2003 12:07 AM To: nickwking@ntlworld.com; All bound for Mu-Mu Land. Subject: RE: [KLF] 9/11 - On-topic - Jimmy Cauty Interview I did not get this track. Did anyone?? IF so, please up it to my ftp and I can host it for the rest of the list. RMStringer ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I got the track, but likewise really, I've found it difficult to get in, be the reason my ISP or whoever. I'll have another go, but only if no one else does. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joshua B" <the1joshuab@comcast.net> To: "'All bound for Mu-Mu Land.'" <klf@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2003 5:26 AM Subject: [KLF] 9/11 - On-topic - Jimmy Cauty Interview
No disrespect but I am frustrated with all the mentions of your FTP site and only being able to get in once out of trying on maybe 15 different occasions, and that one time was terribly slow.
12.208.220.226 KLF Time KLF Time
ERROR:> Requested action not taken (e.g., file or directory not found, no access). ERROR:> Failed to establish data socket.
Just a comment.
-----Original Message----- From: klf-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:klf-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of RMStringer Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2003 12:07 AM To: nickwking@ntlworld.com; All bound for Mu-Mu Land. Subject: RE: [KLF] 9/11 - On-topic - Jimmy Cauty Interview
I did not get this track. Did anyone?? IF so, please up it to my ftp and I can host it for the rest of the list.
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IT is a free service. Renegade.dyndns.org nO passive xfers. RMStringer ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ -----Original Message----- From: klf-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:klf-bounces@mailman.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Dave Clark Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2003 7:38 AM To: All bound for Mu-Mu Land. Subject: Re: [KLF] 9/11 - On-topic - Jimmy Cauty Interview I got the track, but likewise really, I've found it difficult to get in, be the reason my ISP or whoever. I'll have another go, but only if no one else does. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joshua B" <the1joshuab@comcast.net> To: "'All bound for Mu-Mu Land.'" <klf@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2003 5:26 AM Subject: [KLF] 9/11 - On-topic - Jimmy Cauty Interview
No disrespect but I am frustrated with all the mentions of your FTP site and only being able to get in once out of trying on maybe 15 different occasions, and that one time was terribly slow.
12.208.220.226 KLF Time KLF Time
ERROR:> Requested action not taken (e.g., file or directory not found, no access). ERROR:> Failed to establish data socket.
Just a comment.
-----Original Message----- From: klf-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:klf-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of RMStringer Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2003 12:07 AM To: nickwking@ntlworld.com; All bound for Mu-Mu Land. Subject: RE: [KLF] 9/11 - On-topic - Jimmy Cauty Interview
I did not get this track. Did anyone?? IF so, please up it to my ftp and I can host it for the rest of the list.
RMStringer ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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