Agreed! I am on both lists (this one AND the Orb list) ... the Orb list contributions seem to consist mainly of Thrash based abuse.Any genuine postings are met either with derision or just totally ignored.Despite the fact that this is for KLF related topics,I think the odd Orb related item would be welcomed by most on here. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.679 / Virus Database: 441 - Release Date: 07/05/2004