Re: [KLF] What is there left to Kollect?
There was a guy selling an Italian 1-track boot of ME as a "rare white label" on Ebay just before Christmas. His starting price was around £45, and then it dropped to £40 for a second go, iirc. I suspect no one bid because, as he described it as a one-track promo, it was clearly ETERNA 23 (the boot) and not ETERNA 1 (the gold). As far as KLF010RR, I'm sure Record Collector said it was only ever shrink-wrapped with KLF010R, and the double-pack was limited to 500 copes. However, someone on the list recently said that they found a copy of RR, on its own, in the racks of HMV in Oxford Street (again, iirc) back in August 1989. I remember the poster saying "it was the only copy I ever saw, and I bought it instantly". In any case, it seems to be fairly well acknowledged that KLF010RR exists as a single 12", rather than a double back, although the precise number of copies out there seems very slight. Does anyone on the list have an original UK copy? Also - when was KLF010IR (Deep Shit/Lover's Side Extended) available on Ebay? I must have missed that one! And talking of Deep Shit, aren't there two tracks - "Deep Shit" and "Deep Shit Part III" (aka The Illegal Remix)? This is where the IR (Illegal Remix) in KLF010IR comes from - because it starts with KSTJ and then veers off into the Queen and I. Presumably, this track (Part III) can't be the same as the flexi-disc recorded in 1988, can it (because KSTJ wasn't recorded then - K & J weren't famous enough, for a start!)? Also, I'm sure having a "Part I" and a "Part III" but NOT a "Part II" is some sort of joke, or reference to something, but I can't remember what. Illuminati? Deep Shit Part III (the illegal remix) would have been a really funny joke if KSTJ had been a big hit single, I suppose (like January: What Time is Love and its bagpipes). But like so many other KLF projects, it fell flat when KLF010 failed to chart.
Message Received: Jan 10 2007, 05:08 AM From: "Simon Glass" <tygerbc@yahoo.com> To: "All bound for Mu-Mu Land." <klf@mailman.xmission.com> Cc: Subject: Re: [KLF] What is there left to Kollect?
So the Deep Shit you saw, was it pressed on vinyl? One sided? And is it the same Deep Shit that we've discussed previously, being AYNIL/The Queen and I (I forget which) with added Bill ranting at the start? I Appreciate you didn't get to listen to it but perhaps someone else knows as I for one didn't know this existed, or was even rumoured to exist
Regarding sleeves for E-Train, i've seen a scan of a sleeve for either E-Train or Go To Sleep somewhere, i think it was black and blue, but not sure if it was genuine. Again could someone confirm?
I've seen KLF010RR on ebay so I guess that was the German import. I was only aware of one version existing with a red stamp on the sleeve or wrapper but otherwise bearing similarities to the usual KLF010R? And didn't know it wasn't produced in the UK so this list is proving to be quite educational of late!
I'm still convinced I saw some kind of white label of ME on ebay very recently but didn't catch the end price, and perhaps it was a white label of the Italian release if such a thing exists
tbc.
Len Goody <len7@btinternet.com> wrote:
I must admit, the fake pressings of Love Trance on ebay are starting to bore me now. Does anyone really want to pay £350 for a marble effect bootleg? Hopefully if people stop bidding on them, the sellers stop selling them and ultimately the pressers stop pressing them. I feel sorry for the fortunate few who have a genuine Adrenalin copy because its value has surely dropped over the last couple of months.
With regards to KLF010RR, I too have only ever seen the German import. Never in 10 years of searching have I ever come across a genuine KLF Comms copy. Nor have I seen a pressed version of E-Train (8T) or the sleeve, however I wouldnt be surprised if it exists somewhere. Does anyone know if the sleeve text and large number '5' is turqouise or luminescent green as I think that is what colour the labels are? I'm curious as to what colours it is? A few labels have been sold on ebay but I guess the sleeve is far more attractive to the Kollector even minus the vinyl.
The rarest item I have ever seen for sale on ebay was the Illegal Remix of Deep Shit KLF010IR, however I guess the holy grail is the WTIL? 004M acetate or a DS flexi-disc...both have yet to be proved that they exist.
John Milne <john@highlandland.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
I was browsing through Ebay earlier today (JAMSCD4 "buy it now" for £100, anyone?) and wondered - what is still worth getting excited about in KLF collecting circles? CHOC ICES, USAPROMOs, Love Trances, etc seem to appear regularly now.
Here's what I think is "still exciting" (even if some might not exist):
CDs: Eternity Project One, History of the JAMs Possum edition, No More Tears (French promo), What Time is Love (the Coma CD with the "Primal Mix"), Marathon "Love Park" (3" CD with Orbital mixes)
Vinyl: KLF010RR (haven't seen one of them for four years, and it was German import); ETERNITY 1 (Ebay once threw up a backwards-mastered 12" of this, I think - but not the three-tracker); KLF8T (the original Last Train, or even the sleeves with "The White Room - Pure Trance 5" written on them); Last Train (Benio Dub)
Any views?
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For one there is none for sale on ebay so its rare enough ( how many were pressed ?), it is a white label and it is one sided as was stated, and i bought it in camden in the early 90's, i did not know it was from italy. I did get a lot of emails about it and varing stories and thoughts that led me to this email list... im sorry if i dont know as much as you about all that is KLF, i stopped Kollecting many many years ago and have only started getting back into things after finding some buys on ebay. If you knowledge is as extensive as you sound could you please give me a ruff value on MPO 24T A2 one sided whitney joins the jams 120 bpm label on both sides in a plain black sleeve, the KLF.de site says 500 pressed ????? Kind Regards Elliott ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Milne" <john@highlandland.fsnet.co.uk> To: "All bound for Mu-Mu Land." <klf@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 11:50 PM Subject: Re: [KLF] What is there left to Kollect? There was a guy selling an Italian 1-track boot of ME as a "rare white label" on Ebay just before Christmas. His starting price was around £45, and then it dropped to £40 for a second go, iirc. I suspect no one bid because, as he described it as a one-track promo, it was clearly ETERNA 23 (the boot) and not ETERNA 1 (the gold). As far as KLF010RR, I'm sure Record Collector said it was only ever shrink-wrapped with KLF010R, and the double-pack was limited to 500 copes. However, someone on the list recently said that they found a copy of RR, on its own, in the racks of HMV in Oxford Street (again, iirc) back in August 1989. I remember the poster saying "it was the only copy I ever saw, and I bought it instantly". In any case, it seems to be fairly well acknowledged that KLF010RR exists as a single 12", rather than a double back, although the precise number of copies out there seems very slight. Does anyone on the list have an original UK copy? Also - when was KLF010IR (Deep Shit/Lover's Side Extended) available on Ebay? I must have missed that one! And talking of Deep Shit, aren't there two tracks - "Deep Shit" and "Deep Shit Part III" (aka The Illegal Remix)? This is where the IR (Illegal Remix) in KLF010IR comes from - because it starts with KSTJ and then veers off into the Queen and I. Presumably, this track (Part III) can't be the same as the flexi-disc recorded in 1988, can it (because KSTJ wasn't recorded then - K & J weren't famous enough, for a start!)? Also, I'm sure having a "Part I" and a "Part III" but NOT a "Part II" is some sort of joke, or reference to something, but I can't remember what. Illuminati? Deep Shit Part III (the illegal remix) would have been a really funny joke if KSTJ had been a big hit single, I suppose (like January: What Time is Love and its bagpipes). But like so many other KLF projects, it fell flat when KLF010 failed to chart.
Message Received: Jan 10 2007, 05:08 AM From: "Simon Glass" <tygerbc@yahoo.com> To: "All bound for Mu-Mu Land." <klf@mailman.xmission.com> Cc: Subject: Re: [KLF] What is there left to Kollect?
So the Deep Shit you saw, was it pressed on vinyl? One sided? And is it the same Deep Shit that we've discussed previously, being AYNIL/The Queen and I (I forget which) with added Bill ranting at the start? I Appreciate you didn't get to listen to it but perhaps someone else knows as I for one didn't know this existed, or was even rumoured to exist
Regarding sleeves for E-Train, i've seen a scan of a sleeve for either E-Train or Go To Sleep somewhere, i think it was black and blue, but not sure if it was genuine. Again could someone confirm?
I've seen KLF010RR on ebay so I guess that was the German import. I was only aware of one version existing with a red stamp on the sleeve or wrapper but otherwise bearing similarities to the usual KLF010R? And didn't know it wasn't produced in the UK so this list is proving to be quite educational of late!
I'm still convinced I saw some kind of white label of ME on ebay very recently but didn't catch the end price, and perhaps it was a white label of the Italian release if such a thing exists
tbc.
Len Goody <len7@btinternet.com> wrote:
I must admit, the fake pressings of Love Trance on ebay are starting to bore me now. Does anyone really want to pay £350 for a marble effect bootleg? Hopefully if people stop bidding on them, the sellers stop selling them and ultimately the pressers stop pressing them. I feel sorry for the fortunate few who have a genuine Adrenalin copy because its value has surely dropped over the last couple of months.
With regards to KLF010RR, I too have only ever seen the German import. Never in 10 years of searching have I ever come across a genuine KLF Comms copy. Nor have I seen a pressed version of E-Train (8T) or the sleeve, however I wouldnt be surprised if it exists somewhere. Does anyone know if the sleeve text and large number '5' is turqouise or luminescent green as I think that is what colour the labels are? I'm curious as to what colours it is? A few labels have been sold on ebay but I guess the sleeve is far more attractive to the Kollector even minus the vinyl.
The rarest item I have ever seen for sale on ebay was the Illegal Remix of Deep Shit KLF010IR, however I guess the holy grail is the WTIL? 004M acetate or a DS flexi-disc...both have yet to be proved that they exist.
John Milne <john@highlandland.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
I was browsing through Ebay earlier today (JAMSCD4 "buy it now" for £100, anyone?) and wondered - what is still worth getting excited about in KLF collecting circles? CHOC ICES, USAPROMOs, Love Trances, etc seem to appear regularly now.
Here's what I think is "still exciting" (even if some might not exist):
CDs: Eternity Project One, History of the JAMs Possum edition, No More Tears (French promo), What Time is Love (the Coma CD with the "Primal Mix"), Marathon "Love Park" (3" CD with Orbital mixes)
Vinyl: KLF010RR (haven't seen one of them for four years, and it was German import); ETERNITY 1 (Ebay once threw up a backwards-mastered 12" of this, I think - but not the three-tracker); KLF8T (the original Last Train, or even the sleeves with "The White Room - Pure Trance 5" written on them); Last Train (Benio Dub)
Any views?
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On 11 Jan 2007, at 03:16, Elliott wrote:
could you please give me a ruff value on MPO 24T A2 one sided whitney joins the jams 120 bpm label on both sides in a plain black sleeve, the KLF.de site says 500 pressed ?????
really only 500? i didn't think i had any particularly rare KLF items, but it seems i have at least one - maybe i ought to store it better than the old cardboard boxes my vinyl has been dumped in the past few years since my player packed up
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