Thanks for the link! Interesting to hear. I don't think we missed out on much with the released product though... Yes, it's Vol6 part 1. It's listed as track number 6 in that mix. I downloaded the Ulf Lohman track to be able to know when Space starts. You can hear Space between 51:13 and 82:26 in the mix. Maarten Bouwes skrev 2013-11-17 09:02:

Hi,

Thanks for the info! But which track is it? PMT Vol 6 Part 1 <http://fnoob.com/archives/B/30-blindspot/623-paterson-music-time/4310-pmt-vol-6-part-1>? I have never heard the unreleased version so I don't know what to expect :)

Maarten

Op 17 nov. 2013, om 05:44 heeft Stewart Killala <stewartkillala@yahoo.co.uk <mailto:stewartkillala@yahoo.co.uk>> het volgende geschreven:

...

Not sure if everyone knows about this or not, but just in case, the latest entry on 'The Orb News' notes that you can hear the unreleased 'Space' album with The Orb's/Alex's contributions on PMT (Paterson Music Time) mix vol 6: http://orb-news.blogspot.co.uk/2013/11/ureleased-version-of-space-on-pmt.htm... Stewart

Error.. Status: Download starten van /AiDisk_a1/Upload/The Orb_-_Space_(Extracted_from_PMT_Vol_6_Part_1).mp3 Commando: CWD /AiDisk_a1/Upload Antwoord: 250 Directory successfully changed. Commando: PASV Antwoord: 227 Entering Passive Mode (109,189,158,218,22,64) Commando: RETR The Orb_-_Space_(Extracted_from_PMT_Vol_6_Part_1).mp3 Antwoord: 550 Permission denied (restricted operation). Fout: Fatale bestandsoverdrachtsfout Op 17 nov. 2013, om 15:22 heeft Hans Hedman <ravekommissionen@gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:

I extracted the Space part of the mix using mp3splt(no re-encode) and uploaded to Kjetil's ftp for easier listening.

/Hans

Hans Hedman skrev 2013-11-17 09:07:

...

Thanks for the link! Interesting to hear. I don't think we missed out on much with the released product though...

Yes, it's Vol6 part 1. It's listed as track number 6 in that mix. I downloaded the Ulf Lohman track to be able to know when Space starts. You can hear Space between 51:13 and 82:26 in the mix.

Maarten Bouwes skrev 2013-11-17 09:02:

...

Hi,

Thanks for the info! But which track is it? PMT Vol 6 Part 1? I have never heard the unreleased version so I don't know what to expect :)

Maarten

Op 17 nov. 2013, om 05:44 heeft Stewart Killala <stewartkillala@yahoo.co.uk> het volgende geschreven:

...

Not sure if everyone knows about this or not, but just in case, the latest entry on 'The Orb News' notes that you can hear the unreleased 'Space' album with The Orb's/Alex's contributions on PMT (Paterson Music Time) mix vol 6:

http://orb-news.blogspot.co.uk/2013/11/ureleased-version-of-space-on-pmt.htm...

Stewart

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tom dawson skrev 2013-11-17 16:31:

I have extracted and converted to AIFF

Is that really a good idea? Apart from that the size is bigger people might also be fooled into believing that the source is lossless. /Hans

tom dawson skrev 2013-11-17 16:41:

Good point. It just made it easier to crop. I will upload an mp3 version roof

Use mp3splt to split it. Splits without re-encoding. http://mp3splt.sourceforge.net/mp3splt_page/downloads.php

Ah, yes... Upload-folder is write-only - no download possible from that folder. I did this to ensure that I had some control over what was shared on the FTP, such as avoiding that positive void-stuff is shared. I will move the file so that people can download it. Thanks for the upload, Hans :) K On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 3:37 PM, Maarten Bouwes <maarten@bouwes.nl> wrote:

Error..

Status: Download starten van /AiDisk_a1/Upload/The Orb_-_Space_(Extracted_from_PMT_Vol_6_Part_1).mp3 Commando: CWD /AiDisk_a1/Upload Antwoord: 250 Directory successfully changed. Commando: PASV Antwoord: 227 Entering Passive Mode (109,189,158,218,22,64) Commando: RETR The Orb_-_Space_(Extracted_from_PMT_Vol_6_Part_1).mp3 Antwoord: 550 Permission denied (restricted operation). Fout: Fatale bestandsoverdrachtsfout

Op 17 nov. 2013, om 15:22 heeft Hans Hedman <ravekommissionen@gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:

I extracted the Space part of the mix using mp3splt(no re-encode) and uploaded to Kjetil's ftp for easier listening.

/Hans

Hans Hedman skrev 2013-11-17 09:07:

Thanks for the link! Interesting to hear. I don't think we missed out on much with the released product though...

Yes, it's Vol6 part 1. It's listed as track number 6 in that mix. I downloaded the Ulf Lohman track to be able to know when Space starts. You can hear Space between 51:13 and 82:26 in the mix.

Maarten Bouwes skrev 2013-11-17 09:02:

Hi,

Thanks for the info! But which track is it? PMT Vol 6 Part 1<http://fnoob.com/archives/B/30-blindspot/623-paterson-music-time/4310-pmt-vol-6-part-1>? I have never heard the unreleased version so I don't know what to expect :)

Maarten

Op 17 nov. 2013, om 05:44 heeft Stewart Killala < stewartkillala@yahoo.co.uk> het volgende geschreven:

Not sure if everyone knows about this or not, but just in case, the latest entry on 'The Orb News' notes that you can hear the unreleased 'Space' album with The Orb's/Alex's contributions on PMT (Paterson Music Time) mix vol 6:

http://orb-news.blogspot.co.uk/2013/11/ureleased-version-of-space-on-pmt.htm...

Stewart

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What a great Sunday morning. Been waiting to hear this for so many years. Although on first listen a bit disappointed. I imagined a few different themes/tunes and a bit more bass - what was all the legal fall-out fuss about? Sent from my iPhone On 17 Nov 2013, at 09:09, "Antti Lavio" <antti.lavio@possu.org> wrote:

On 17.11.2013 10:02, Maarten Bouwes wrote:

...

I have never heard the unreleased version so I don't know what to expect :)

Me neither! But very interesting. With all "evergrowing pulsating brain" and "pluto calling over" vocoded talks!

Thanks for this!

-- anttil.

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So now we need a decent tracklist. If jimmy deleated all of Alex' contributions, can't we just undo That? Looking at the tracklist of Jimmy and the tracklist of Alex, theres a big difference. Did Jimmy not only deleated Alex' contributions but also renamed the tracks? Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone

Op 17 nov. 2013 om 12:15 heeft Sebastien Ledys <seb.ledys@gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:

this is great! at last... gonna put this on heavy rotation all day

this is what it was supposed to be :

Music To Funk To/ Fluffy Clouds/ Earth/ Floating Treasure In Outer Space/ Supernova At The End Of The Rainbow/ Essenes In The 4th Dimension/ A Huge Ever Growing Pulsating Brain That Rules From The Centre Of The Ultraworld(Spanish Castles In The Sky)/ Sunburst

but apparently this tracklisting is wrong, it is from something else.

-seb

...

On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 11:23 AM, tom dawson <tom_dawson@hotmail.com> wrote:

What a great Sunday morning. Been waiting to hear this for so many years. Although on first listen a bit disappointed. I imagined a few different themes/tunes and a bit more bass - what was all the legal fall-out fuss about?

Sent from my iPhone

On 17 Nov 2013, at 09:09, "Antti Lavio" <antti.lavio@possu.org> wrote:

...

On 17.11.2013 10:02, Maarten Bouwes wrote:

...

I have never heard the unreleased version so I don't know what to expect :)

Me neither! But very interesting. With all "evergrowing pulsating brain" and "pluto calling over" vocoded talks!

Thanks for this!

-- anttil.

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This thing is simply AMAZING! And it's great to hear it in all its glory after all this time. I really hope there will be a high-quality version of it out sometime. In the next millennium. Maybe. Thanks for sharing. Cheers, Danny Am 17.11.2013 um 19:58 schrieb Antti Lavio <antti.lavio@possu.org>:

So was this supposed to be tracklisting for "original" Space or what?

Where did this info come from?

And yes, we need tracklist for this new Space.

-- anttil.

On 17.11.2013 13:15, Sebastien Ledys wrote:

...

this is great! at last... gonna put this on heavy rotation all day

this is what it was supposed to be :

Music To Funk To/ Fluffy Clouds/ Earth/ Floating Treasure In Outer Space/ Supernova At The End Of The Rainbow/ Essenes In The 4th Dimension/ A Huge Ever Growing Pulsating Brain That Rules From The Centre Of The Ultraworld(Spanish Castles In The Sky)/ Sunburst

but apparently this tracklisting is wrong, it is from something else.

-seb

On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 11:23 AM, tom dawson <tom_dawson@hotmail.com <mailto:tom_dawson@hotmail.com>> wrote:

What a great Sunday morning. Been waiting to hear this for so many years. Although on first listen a bit disappointed. I imagined a few different themes/tunes and a bit more bass - what was all the legal fall-out fuss about?

Sent from my iPhone

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> > On 17.11.2013 10:02, Maarten Bouwes wrote: > >> I have never heard the unreleased version so I don't know what to expect :) > > Me neither! But very interesting. With all "evergrowing pulsating brain" and "pluto calling over" vocoded talks! > > Thanks for this! > > -- > anttil. > > > _______________________________________________ > KLF mailing list > KLF@mailman.xmission.com <mailto:KLF@mailman.xmission.com> > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/klf > Report list abuse to list-abuse at studio-nibble.com <http://studio-nibble.com>

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For those still looking for the download www.klfmusic.com/Music/Jimmy_Cauty Sent from my iPhone On 17 Nov 2013, at 19:57, "Daniel Erlemann" <daniel@klf.de> wrote:

This thing is simply AMAZING! And it's great to hear it in all its glory after all this time. I really hope there will be a high-quality version of it out sometime. In the next millennium. Maybe.

Thanks for sharing.

Cheers, Danny

Am 17.11.2013 um 19:58 schrieb Antti Lavio <antti.lavio@possu.org>:

...

So was this supposed to be tracklisting for "original" Space or what?

Where did this info come from?

And yes, we need tracklist for this new Space.

-- anttil.

On 17.11.2013 13:15, Sebastien Ledys wrote:

...

this is great! at last... gonna put this on heavy rotation all day

this is what it was supposed to be :

Music To Funk To/ Fluffy Clouds/ Earth/ Floating Treasure In Outer Space/ Supernova At The End Of The Rainbow/ Essenes In The 4th Dimension/ A Huge Ever Growing Pulsating Brain That Rules From The Centre Of The Ultraworld(Spanish Castles In The Sky)/ Sunburst

but apparently this tracklisting is wrong, it is from something else.

-seb

On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 11:23 AM, tom dawson <tom_dawson@hotmail.com <mailto:tom_dawson@hotmail.com>> wrote:

What a great Sunday morning. Been waiting to hear this for so many years. Although on first listen a bit disappointed. I imagined a few different themes/tunes and a bit more bass - what was all the legal fall-out fuss about?

Sent from my iPhone

On 17 Nov 2013, at 09:09, "Antti Lavio" <antti.lavio@possu.org <mailto:antti.lavio@possu.org>> wrote:

...

On 17.11.2013 10:02, Maarten Bouwes wrote:

...

I have never heard the unreleased version so I don't know what

to expect :)

...

Me neither! But very interesting. With all "evergrowing pulsating

brain" and "pluto calling over" vocoded talks!

...

Thanks for this!

-- anttil.

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Most of the samples seems to be from old Cheech & Chong albums, at least from Big Bambu album (1972), Empire Hancock commercial track. Also on Neptune track, there's horse sounds(!) and same child crying as in Mummie Don't. On Mars, there's an unknown incident report on Mars track, similar (but not same) as in Chill Out. ("Approximately 2pm eastern daylight time....the incident occured approximately 85 miles northeast...") This reminds me that there is an entry in discography of Chill out/Space bootleg with Cheech and Chong samples in it. Coincidence? -- anttil. On 18.11.2013 8:53, Antti Lavio wrote:

On 17.11.2013 20:58, Antti Lavio wrote:

...

And yes, we need tracklist for this new Space.

And here's quick one..

1. Uranus 0:00 - 6:09 2. Neptune 6:10 - 16:13 3. Jupiter 16:14 - 21:50 4. Mars 21:51 - 27:20 5. Pluto Calling [Twinkle] 27:21 - 31:11

First four are same as in released Space, with lot's of samples added. Pluto Calling is same as in Orbsessions 1, with bit different samples addded.

I think there was a lot of cross over at the time. Jimmy was part of Orb and just starting KLF. Interestingly I was listening to some old Orb yesterday and Little Fluffy clouds was recorded in 1988 and that first version was very different. I think lots of tracks could have been part of the Original Space project before they decided on the final "planets" running order and went their separate ways. Sent from my iPhone On 18 Nov 2013, at 11:00, "Antti Lavio" <antti.lavio@possu.org> wrote:

By the way, this was found from Orb's site:

http://www.theorb.com/history/the-story/

"In 1989, [....] recording the Space album in Bottom, Cornwall [Tracks: 'Mercury', 'Venus', 'Mars', 'Donner & Blitz', 'Pluto Calling', 'Sat On Jupiter', 'Nep-Tuned']. Alex also compiled 'What Time Is Love 1' on KLF. "

Seems bit different than this and Jimmys Space. It also might be that back then they didn't have finalized names yet.

What Time Is Love 1 means WTIL Story, right? Interesting, didn't know that.

-- anttil.

On 18.11.2013 10:38, Antti Lavio wrote:

...

Most of the samples seems to be from old Cheech & Chong albums, at least from Big Bambu album (1972), Empire Hancock commercial track.

Also on Neptune track, there's horse sounds(!) and same child crying as in Mummie Don't.

On Mars, there's an unknown incident report on Mars track, similar (but not same) as in Chill Out. ("Approximately 2pm eastern daylight time....the incident occured approximately 85 miles northeast...")

This reminds me that there is an entry in discography of Chill out/Space bootleg with Cheech and Chong samples in it. Coincidence?

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I guess we will never know the true story. unless we get a boxed set one day where Jimmy and Alex reveal all. We had the TK for a while there where they got on again so not an impossibility. Love some of that stuff. Sent from my iPhone On 18 Nov 2013, at 12:27, "Maarten Bouwes" <maarten@bouwes.nl> wrote:

On the other hand: Jimmy had Space. Alex releases the orb's adventures...

If they only would have been the orb nowadays...

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone

...

Op 18 nov. 2013 om 12:16 heeft tom dawson <tom_dawson@hotmail.com> het volgende geschreven:

I think there was a lot of cross over at the time. Jimmy was part of Orb and just starting KLF. Interestingly I was listening to some old Orb yesterday and Little Fluffy clouds was recorded in 1988 and that first version was very different. I think lots of tracks could have been part of the Original Space project before they decided on the final "planets" running order and went their separate ways.

Sent from my iPhone

...

On 18 Nov 2013, at 11:00, "Antti Lavio" <antti.lavio@possu.org> wrote:

By the way, this was found from Orb's site:

http://www.theorb.com/history/the-story/

"In 1989, [....] recording the Space album in Bottom, Cornwall [Tracks: 'Mercury', 'Venus', 'Mars', 'Donner & Blitz', 'Pluto Calling', 'Sat On Jupiter', 'Nep-Tuned']. Alex also compiled 'What Time Is Love 1' on KLF. "

Seems bit different than this and Jimmys Space. It also might be that back then they didn't have finalized names yet.

What Time Is Love 1 means WTIL Story, right? Interesting, didn't know that.

-- anttil.

...

On 18.11.2013 10:38, Antti Lavio wrote: Most of the samples seems to be from old Cheech & Chong albums, at least from Big Bambu album (1972), Empire Hancock commercial track.

Also on Neptune track, there's horse sounds(!) and same child crying as in Mummie Don't.

On Mars, there's an unknown incident report on Mars track, similar (but not same) as in Chill Out. ("Approximately 2pm eastern daylight time....the incident occured approximately 85 miles northeast...")

This reminds me that there is an entry in discography of Chill out/Space bootleg with Cheech and Chong samples in it. Coincidence?

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