Members Equity Email System Does anyone have any idea why Bill and Jimmy released "It's Grim Up North" as a JAMS track and not a KLF track? Given the sound of the song as trancy techno, and sounding nothing like previous JAMS stuff, I was just curious as to why the name was resurrected--any ideas? Michael W. Thibodeau Lending Consultant Members Equity Pty. Ltd. 03 9605 6554 mthibodeau@membersequity.com.au ""It's grim up north" -- The Justified Ancients of Mu Mu, "It's Grim Up North"
As they said in "F*** the Millennium": the artists forever known as The Justified Ancients of Mu Mu... cheers Steph
Members Equity Email System Does anyone have any idea why Bill and Jimmy released "It's Grim Up North" as a JAMS track and not a KLF track? Given the sound of the song as trancy techno, and sounding nothing like previous JAMS stuff, I was just curious as to why the name was resurrected--any ideas?
Michael W. Thibodeau Lending Consultant Members Equity Pty. Ltd. 03 9605 6554 mthibodeau@membersequity.com.au ""It's grim up north" -- The Justified Ancients of Mu Mu, "It's Grim Up North"
To answer the original question (grin) I always assumed it was a JAMs track because Bill did a solo, "rapped" vocal on it, just like most of the JAMs tracks, as opposed to most of the KLF tracks which had guest singers and rappers. This obviously only applies to The White Room era KLF, as opposed to the Pure Trance stuff, but since this was the incarnation that had made them world famous, it makes sense. Especially as the track was an attempt to do something radically different. The classic "break from the past." I guess they were just experimenting. Del ----------------------------------- Derek Knight djnite@klf-communications.com
-----Original Message----- From: klf-admin@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:klf-admin@mailman.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Michael Thibodeau Sent: 23 May 2002 00:37 To: 'klf@mailman.xmission.com' Subject: [KLF] It's Grim Up North--JAMS Vs. KLF????
Members Equity Email System Does anyone have any idea why Bill and Jimmy released "It's Grim Up North" as a JAMS track and not a KLF track? Given the sound of the song as trancy techno, and sounding nothing like previous JAMS stuff, I was just curious as to why the name was resurrected--any ideas?
Michael W. Thibodeau Lending Consultant Members Equity Pty. Ltd. 03 9605 6554 mthibodeau@membersequity.com.au ""It's grim up north" -- The Justified Ancients of Mu Mu, "It's Grim Up North"
Yeah, but what about 'White Room' - the song? This one looks like original JAMs track as well, still it's KLF... --- Derek Knight <djnite@klf-communications.com> wrote:
To answer the original question (grin) I always assumed it was a JAMs track because Bill did a solo, "rapped" vocal on it, just like most of the JAMs tracks, as opposed to most of the KLF tracks which had guest singers and rappers. This obviously only applies to The White Room era KLF, as opposed to the Pure Trance stuff, but since this was the incarnation that had made them world famous, it makes sense. Especially as the track was an attempt to do something radically different. The classic "break from the past." I guess they were just experimenting.
Del
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-----Original Message----- From: klf-admin@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:klf-admin@mailman.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Michael Thibodeau Sent: 23 May 2002 00:37 To: 'klf@mailman.xmission.com' Subject: [KLF] It's Grim Up North--JAMS Vs. KLF????
Members Equity Email System Does anyone have any idea why Bill and Jimmy released "It's Grim Up North" as a JAMS track and not a KLF track? Given the sound of the song as trancy techno, and sounding nothing like previous JAMS stuff, I was just curious as to why the name was resurrected--any ideas?
Michael W. Thibodeau Lending Consultant Members Equity Pty. Ltd. 03 9605 6554 mthibodeau@membersequity.com.au ""It's grim up north" -- The Justified Ancients of Mu Mu, "It's Grim Up North"
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But it was the KLF that searched for the White Room, not the JAMS. --- Thomas Touzimsky same shit // different day ----- Original Message ----- From: "EelLeech Mikhail" <bass_addicted_xxl@yahoo.com> To: <klf@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2002 12:40 AM Subject: RE: [KLF] It's Grim Up North--JAMS Vs. KLF????
Yeah, but what about 'White Room' - the song? This one looks like original JAMs track as well, still it's KLF...
--- Derek Knight <djnite@klf-communications.com> wrote:
To answer the original question (grin) I always assumed it was a JAMs track because Bill did a solo, "rapped" vocal on it, just like most of the JAMs tracks, as opposed to most of the KLF tracks which had guest singers and rappers. This obviously only applies to The White Room era KLF, as opposed to the Pure Trance stuff, but since this was the incarnation that had made them world famous, it makes sense. Especially as the track was an attempt to do something radically different. The classic "break from the past." I guess they were just experimenting.
Del
----------------------------------- Derek Knight djnite@klf-communications.com
-----Original Message----- From: klf-admin@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:klf-admin@mailman.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Michael Thibodeau Sent: 23 May 2002 00:37 To: 'klf@mailman.xmission.com' Subject: [KLF] It's Grim Up North--JAMS Vs. KLF????
Members Equity Email System Does anyone have any idea why Bill and Jimmy released "It's Grim Up North" as a JAMS track and not a KLF track? Given the sound of the song as trancy techno, and sounding nothing like previous JAMS stuff, I was just curious as to why the name was resurrected--any ideas?
Michael W. Thibodeau Lending Consultant Members Equity Pty. Ltd. 03 9605 6554 mthibodeau@membersequity.com.au ""It's grim up north" -- The Justified Ancients of Mu Mu, "It's Grim Up North"
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Or, to be more precise... it was the KLF that Eternity had the contract with. --- Thomas Touzimsky same shit // different day
Derek Knight wrote:
To answer the original question (grin) I always assumed it was a JAMs track because Bill did a solo, "rapped" vocal on it, just like most of the JAMs tracks, as opposed to most of the KLF tracks which had guest singers and rappers.
And unlike the JAMs record It's Grim Up North, which had a guest solo lead vocal by Pete Wylie... erm, wait a minute!
Wasn't it also supposed to be a prelude to "The Black Room" which was going to be a JAMs album? Not sure where I read this... l8rs, Nick ;-)
Derek Knight wrote:
To answer the original question (grin) I always assumed it was
a JAMs track
because Bill did a solo, "rapped" vocal on it, just like most of the JAMs tracks, as opposed to most of the KLF tracks which had guest singers and rappers.
And unlike the JAMs record It's Grim Up North, which had a guest solo lead vocal by Pete Wylie... erm, wait a minute!
On the inner sleeve, it says "taken from the forthcoming album The Black Room"... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nick King" <nickwking@ntlworld.com> To: <klf@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2002 5:32 PM Subject: RE: [KLF] It's Grim Up North--JAMS Vs. KLF????
Wasn't it also supposed to be a prelude to "The Black Room" which was going to be a JAMs album?
Not sure where I read this...
l8rs,
Nick ;-)
Derek Knight wrote:
To answer the original question (grin) I always assumed it was
a JAMs track
because Bill did a solo, "rapped" vocal on it, just like most of the JAMs tracks, as opposed to most of the KLF tracks which had guest singers and rappers.
And unlike the JAMs record It's Grim Up North, which had a guest solo lead vocal by Pete Wylie... erm, wait a minute!
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Guess that's where I saw it then! ;-> l8rs, Nick ;-)
-----Original Message----- From: klf-admin@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:klf-admin@mailman.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Christian Fieres Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2002 7:51 PM To: klf@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: [KLF] It's Grim Up North--JAMS Vs. KLF????
On the inner sleeve, it says "taken from the forthcoming album The Black Room"...
----- Original Message ----- From: "Nick King" <nickwking@ntlworld.com> To: <klf@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2002 5:32 PM Subject: RE: [KLF] It's Grim Up North--JAMS Vs. KLF????
Wasn't it also supposed to be a prelude to "The Black Room" which was going to be a JAMs album?
Not sure where I read this...
l8rs,
Nick ;-)
Derek Knight wrote:
To answer the original question (grin) I always assumed it was
a JAMs track
because Bill did a solo, "rapped" vocal on it, just like most of the JAMs tracks, as opposed to most of the KLF tracks which had guest singers and rappers.
And unlike the JAMs record It's Grim Up North, which had a guest solo lead vocal by Pete Wylie... erm, wait a minute!
Michael Thibodeau wrote:
Does anyone have any idea why Bill and Jimmy released "It's Grim Up North" as a JAMS track and not a KLF track? Given the sound of the song as trancy techno, and sounding nothing like previous JAMS stuff, I was just curious as to why the name was resurrected--any ideas?
did this actually get answered, or was the whole thread about F*** and ***K? One answer is that they knew that IGUN would not be a top3 single and they didn't want to spoil The KLF's chart record, ie. WTIL - 5 3am - 1 LTTT - 3 J&A - 2 is a pretty impressive record, and would have been spoiled by IGUN - 12 I'm pretty sure that there is even a reference to this in an interview or some of Bill's writing. He certainly talks about wanting to leave the industry at the top and not fade away with ever diminishing chart positions. cheers -- Stuart Young, Michelle Ardern & Felix Ardern-Young (1) have moved to: 42B, Sefton Ave, Grey Lynn, Auckland, NZ Same Phone: +64 (0)9 376 8100 say.map@ihug.co.nz Stuey is webmaster of the NZ Green Party - now redesigned: http://www.greens.org.nz/ And webmaster of his own personal website - a cobweb site: http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~stuey/
Hi all, anyone heard the new Prodigy tracks that are out there? They seem to start liking the KLF idea of self-reference (here: Mu Mu chants, sounds etc.)... Two songs I heard sample their own stuff, that's Firestarter on the new single Baby's Got A Temper for example. Just wanted to let this out. Never mind. Dan --- a.k.a. Kuta, KLF Online (www.klf.de)
anyone heard the new Prodigy tracks that are out there? They seem to start liking the KLF idea of self-reference (here: Mu Mu chants, sounds etc.)... Two songs I heard sample their own stuff, that's Firestarter on the new single Baby's Got A Temper for example.
Can you tell me, what samples are from KLF in these Prodigy tracks? I'm a Prodigy fan and i know this songs, but i can't hear these samples
Hmm... I didn't say that there are KLF samples in Prodigy songs. I said Liam starts to use the same kind of self-reference LIKE the KLF. Never mind. Regards, Dan --- a.k.a. Kuta, KLF Online (www.klf.de) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Olek Leicht" <leicht@enter.net.pl> To: <klf@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 7:38 PM Subject: Re: [KLF] A bit OT: Prodigy
anyone heard the new Prodigy tracks that are out there? They seem to start liking the KLF idea of self-reference (here: Mu Mu chants, sounds etc.)... Two songs I heard sample their own stuff, that's Firestarter on the new single Baby's Got A Temper for example.
Can you tell me, what samples are from KLF in these Prodigy tracks? I'm a Prodigy fan and i know this songs, but i can't hear these samples
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