Hi all, TLDR: does 1987 Vinyl LP ever have the songs in a different order? *Background:* Many years ago (probably around 1991, as it was after Last Train and 3AM eternal were released) my father and I were at a record fair somewhere in Sydney (likely Parramatta, but I don't recall for sure). He bought a copy of 1987. I was only 16 or 17. Dad's very into music and he wanted to keep it with his collection. He made a cassette copy of it for me. I listened to it a lot. There was enough room on the tape to put three Disco2000 songs as well as 2K "F*ck the Millenium", so he must have had these as well, though I have absolutely no memory of him obtaining them, unless he borrowed them from someone. I didn't know about the story behind 1987 at the time. I only knew that I liked the music. I haven't listened to this tape for YEARS but I still have it (along with his copy that he did of "Shag Times" for me.) When I joined the original KLF yahoo group (late 90s? early 2000s? and this mailing list, I started to learn more about the KLF and their controversies. Over the years I’ve quietly wondered whether he had the original 1987 or if he had "the edits". Recently I thought I really need to just listen to the tape and find out. So I listened today. The songs are all complete, so it seems that it's an original copy of 1987 rather than "the edits". *My question:* The songs on my cassette tape are in a different order than everything I’m seeing online. Dad would have had no reason to tape the songs in a different order than was on the album (I know this because of other things he taped for me - the only change he made was to omit two songs from an compilation album when I was 13 because he thought they were "too heavy"). I’ve also read that the song listing on the record doesn’t actually match what’s on the record, but can't find any images of what the original LP shows for the song list. I've seen images of CDs but don't seem to be able to find images of this part of the LP. So thought I'd ask here and see if anyone has any insight on this? Do we think there's any chance my dad recorded the songs out of order? Or are there versions of 1987 with the songs in a different order? Online I find the song listing in this order and there's even a full youtube video which matches this. 1. Hey Hey We Are Not The Monkees 2 .Mind the Gap 3. Don't Take Five (Take What You Want) 4. Rockman Rock Parts 2 And 3 5. Why Did You Throw Away Your Giro? 6. Me Ru Con 7. The Queen And I 8. Top Of The Pops 9. All You Need is Love 10. Next Listening to my cassette, the songs are in this order: 1. Top Of The Pops 2. All You Need is Love 3 .Mind the Gap 4. Don't Take Five (Take What You Want) 5. Hey Hey We Are Not The Monkees 6. Me Ru Con 7. Next 8. Rockman Rock Parts 2 And 3 9. Why Did You Throw Away Your Giro? 10. The Queen And I My handwritten listing on the cassette sleeve is: All you need is love 7:44 Don't Take Five: 5:08 Hey Hey we are Not the Monkees 6:08 Me Ru Con 2:27 Next 7:14 Rockman Rock Parts 1 & 2 7:13 The Queen & I 4:45 And if anyone's curious about the extra songs: Disco2000 I gotta CD 6:46 (this one is my favourite of the three disco2000 songs) One Love Nation 6:02 Feel This 5:35 2K- F*ck the Millenium 4:00 Thank you to anyone who might have some thoughts on this! -- Caroline -------- Please email me again if I don't get back to you. Life gets busy, and sometimes I forget. I don't mind being reminded to keep in touch :)
Caroline, My copy of 1987 vinyl plays in the conventional order, which matches the track listing on the labels (you can see images here: https://www.discogs.com/release/140785-The-Justified-Ancients-Of-Mu-Mu-1987-... ) All the versions on Discogs have the same track list, except for one bootleg CD which has side one and two reversed. There is nothing with the really weird track order on your tape. So it really looks like your dad created that track order. But I can understand your puzzlement: why would he do that? Regards, Doug On 15 Dec 2024, at 17:00, Caroline Brymora <carolinebrymora@gmail.com> wrote: Hi all, TLDR: does 1987 Vinyl LP ever have the songs in a different order? *Background:* Many years ago (probably around 1991, as it was after Last Train and 3AM eternal were released) my father and I were at a record fair somewhere in Sydney (likely Parramatta, but I don't recall for sure). He bought a copy of 1987. I was only 16 or 17. Dad's very into music and he wanted to keep it with his collection. He made a cassette copy of it for me. I listened to it a lot. There was enough room on the tape to put three Disco2000 songs as well as 2K "F*ck the Millenium", so he must have had these as well, though I have absolutely no memory of him obtaining them, unless he borrowed them from someone. I didn't know about the story behind 1987 at the time. I only knew that I liked the music. I haven't listened to this tape for YEARS but I still have it (along with his copy that he did of "Shag Times" for me.) When I joined the original KLF yahoo group (late 90s? early 2000s? and this mailing list, I started to learn more about the KLF and their controversies. Over the years I’ve quietly wondered whether he had the original 1987 or if he had "the edits". Recently I thought I really need to just listen to the tape and find out. So I listened today. The songs are all complete, so it seems that it's an original copy of 1987 rather than "the edits". *My question:* The songs on my cassette tape are in a different order than everything I’m seeing online. Dad would have had no reason to tape the songs in a different order than was on the album (I know this because of other things he taped for me - the only change he made was to omit two songs from an compilation album when I was 13 because he thought they were "too heavy"). I’ve also read that the song listing on the record doesn’t actually match what’s on the record, but can't find any images of what the original LP shows for the song list. I've seen images of CDs but don't seem to be able to find images of this part of the LP. So thought I'd ask here and see if anyone has any insight on this? Do we think there's any chance my dad recorded the songs out of order? Or are there versions of 1987 with the songs in a different order? Online I find the song listing in this order and there's even a full youtube video which matches this. 1. Hey Hey We Are Not The Monkees 2 .Mind the Gap 3. Don't Take Five (Take What You Want) 4. Rockman Rock Parts 2 And 3 5. Why Did You Throw Away Your Giro? 6. Me Ru Con 7. The Queen And I 8. Top Of The Pops 9. All You Need is Love 10. Next Listening to my cassette, the songs are in this order: 1. Top Of The Pops 2. All You Need is Love 3 .Mind the Gap 4. Don't Take Five (Take What You Want) 5. Hey Hey We Are Not The Monkees 6. Me Ru Con 7. Next 8. Rockman Rock Parts 2 And 3 9. Why Did You Throw Away Your Giro? 10. The Queen And I My handwritten listing on the cassette sleeve is: All you need is love 7:44 Don't Take Five: 5:08 Hey Hey we are Not the Monkees 6:08 Me Ru Con 2:27 Next 7:14 Rockman Rock Parts 1 & 2 7:13 The Queen & I 4:45 And if anyone's curious about the extra songs: Disco2000 I gotta CD 6:46 (this one is my favourite of the three disco2000 songs) One Love Nation 6:02 Feel This 5:35 2K- F*ck the Millenium 4:00 Thank you to anyone who might have some thoughts on this! -- Caroline -------- Please email me again if I don't get back to you. Life gets busy, and sometimes I forget. I don't mind being reminded to keep in touch :) _______________________________________________ KLF mailing list -- klf@mailman.xmission.com To unsubscribe send an email to klf-leave@mailman.xmission.com https://mailman.xmission.com/postorius/lists/klf.mailman.xmission.com/
Dad says he’s going to try to find the vinyl for me. But it might take a while. Caroline -------- Please email me again if I don't get back to you. Life gets busy, and sometimes I forget. I don't mind being reminded to keep in touch :) On Mon, 16 Dec 2024 at 1:29 am, Doug Miller <572-mu@ultramode.net> wrote:
Caroline,
My copy of 1987 vinyl plays in the conventional order, which matches the track listing on the labels (you can see images here: https://www.discogs.com/release/140785-The-Justified-Ancients-Of-Mu-Mu-1987-... )
All the versions on Discogs have the same track list, except for one bootleg CD which has side one and two reversed. There is nothing with the really weird track order on your tape.
So it really looks like your dad created that track order. But I can understand your puzzlement: why would he do that?
Regards, Doug
On 15 Dec 2024, at 17:00, Caroline Brymora <carolinebrymora@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
TLDR: does 1987 Vinyl LP ever have the songs in a different order?
*Background:* Many years ago (probably around 1991, as it was after Last Train and 3AM eternal were released) my father and I were at a record fair somewhere in Sydney (likely Parramatta, but I don't recall for sure).
He bought a copy of 1987. I was only 16 or 17. Dad's very into music and he wanted to keep it with his collection.
He made a cassette copy of it for me. I listened to it a lot. There was enough room on the tape to put three Disco2000 songs as well as 2K "F*ck the Millenium", so he must have had these as well, though I have absolutely no memory of him obtaining them, unless he borrowed them from someone.
I didn't know about the story behind 1987 at the time. I only knew that I liked the music.
I haven't listened to this tape for YEARS but I still have it (along with his copy that he did of "Shag Times" for me.)
When I joined the original KLF yahoo group (late 90s? early 2000s? and this mailing list, I started to learn more about the KLF and their controversies.
Over the years I’ve quietly wondered whether he had the original 1987 or if he had "the edits". Recently I thought I really need to just listen to the tape and find out.
So I listened today. The songs are all complete, so it seems that it's an original copy of 1987 rather than "the edits".
*My question:* The songs on my cassette tape are in a different order than everything I’m seeing online. Dad would have had no reason to tape the songs in a different order than was on the album (I know this because of other things he taped for me - the only change he made was to omit two songs from an compilation album when I was 13 because he thought they were "too heavy").
I’ve also read that the song listing on the record doesn’t actually match what’s on the record, but can't find any images of what the original LP shows for the song list. I've seen images of CDs but don't seem to be able to find images of this part of the LP.
So thought I'd ask here and see if anyone has any insight on this? Do we think there's any chance my dad recorded the songs out of order? Or are there versions of 1987 with the songs in a different order?
Online I find the song listing in this order and there's even a full youtube video which matches this.
1. Hey Hey We Are Not The Monkees 2 .Mind the Gap 3. Don't Take Five (Take What You Want) 4. Rockman Rock Parts 2 And 3 5. Why Did You Throw Away Your Giro?
6. Me Ru Con 7. The Queen And I 8. Top Of The Pops 9. All You Need is Love 10. Next
Listening to my cassette, the songs are in this order:
1. Top Of The Pops 2. All You Need is Love 3 .Mind the Gap 4. Don't Take Five (Take What You Want) 5. Hey Hey We Are Not The Monkees
6. Me Ru Con 7. Next 8. Rockman Rock Parts 2 And 3 9. Why Did You Throw Away Your Giro? 10. The Queen And I
My handwritten listing on the cassette sleeve is: All you need is love 7:44 Don't Take Five: 5:08 Hey Hey we are Not the Monkees 6:08 Me Ru Con 2:27 Next 7:14 Rockman Rock Parts 1 & 2 7:13 The Queen & I 4:45
And if anyone's curious about the extra songs: Disco2000 I gotta CD 6:46 (this one is my favourite of the three disco2000 songs) One Love Nation 6:02 Feel This 5:35 2K- F*ck the Millenium 4:00
Thank you to anyone who might have some thoughts on this! --
Caroline
--------
Please email me again if I don't get back to you. Life gets busy, and sometimes I forget. I don't mind being reminded to keep in touch :)
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