Hello, 's me again... Looking at last month's archive, it's good to see some old faces still here! Anyway, down to business - some news / views and questions. A little too late, I got wind of Bill's exhibition / performance of "A smell of..." at the Cornerhouse in Manchester last weekend. The tickets were (surprisingly) all sold out, but the nice lady suggested I could go see the exhibition anyway. Imagine my surprise on reaching the entrance to the gallery when Gimpo kindly held the door open for me. I've already got the book and a 1/20,000th of the photo, but it was interesting to see the exhibition, read Bill's extracts, see the photos and even surpress mild surpirse when Bill himself walked in and started talking to Gimpo about digital cameras... I was also interested in Phamphlets 16, 20 and 23 which I bagged a couple of copies of. 20 is interesting as it is the last page to the book (which appearntly isn't in the printed edition, although I've not checked). I didn't feel sad enough to say anything to Bill so studiously examined the tins of Drummond's International Grey instead whilst he was debating protable hard-drives with Gimpo. I was really keen to ask about the 7" vinyl on display too, but didn't so I'll ask here instead. In a plain black sleeve, the visible side noted it was called "Queen of the South" by Bill Drummond, released on WEA around 1986. There was also a Penkiln Burn logo on it tho'. It's not in the discog as a 7" in its own right, but is on "The Man". Anyone got any ideas what this was? I'm not around much, but will keep a sharp eye out. Cheers, NIk PS - the UK car stickers are mildly fun (even if they did cost ukp5) _________________________________________________________________ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger
On Tue, May 06, 2003 at 09:34:56PM +0000, NIk Gilmour wrote:
In a plain black sleeve, the visible side noted it was called "Queen of the South" by Bill Drummond, released on WEA around 1986. There was also a Penkiln Burn logo on it tho'. It's not in the discog as a 7" in its own right, but is on "The Man". Anyone got any ideas what this was?
I think that's the record he played at the Marx Memorial Library for the Silent Protest launch. He walked in with a portable record player and played a 7" from The Man as his introduction. Memory fails me, but it could well have been Queen of the South (in fact, it must have been, as it wasn't any of the others) Dunno if it's a real release though.
PS - the UK car stickers are mildly fun (even if they did cost ukp5)
the what? jon -- "Alcohol kills more people than Heroin, crack, acid and Cannabis put together. And you'd think that all those drugs together would be lethal." - Dougal Macleod "Alcohol kills more people than Heroin, crack, acid and Cannabis put together. So you'd think that all those drugs together would be legal." - redi
Jonathan Wakely <cow@compsoc.man.ac.uk> writes
I think that's the record he played at the Marx Memorial Library for the Silent Protest launch. He walked in with a portable record player and played a 7" from The Man as his introduction.
Someone stole it/the original copy of the acetate from Bill's gig/residency in Leeds. The record player is one that Bill has kept since his teenage years.
Has anyone else just received a truckload of spam from Wanda Dee, GoddessEmpire@aol.com? About 5 hours ago I received 21 emails in a row from her. Some dodgy fucker must have given my her email address saying I wanted to receive updates. Among the 21 emails there was a new Wanda biography. Here's the KLF paragraphs: BILL DRUMMOND & JIM CAUTY of The KLF had been around for many years with only moderate underground success, however, their fortunes turned upward when they decided to collaborate with several vocalists, rappers & Wanda as a lead singer, lyricist & sensuous centerpiece of their acclaimed video presentations, throughout the 90's.Ã The result was multimillion selling albums ("The White Room" on Arista/BMG, among them) that scored 6 multi-platinum, international #1 singles that went platinum in 77 countries ("3 AM ETERNAL", "NO MORE TEARS", "WHAT TIME IS LOVE", "LAST TRAIN TO TRANCENTRAL", "ALL BOUND FOR MU MU LAND" and "JUSTIFIED & ANCIENT" w/the late legendary First Lady Of Country Music, MISS TAMMY WYNETTE), and worldwide unit sales in excess of fifteen million copies.Ã Due to global public demand for this incredible music and The KLF producers vehement declination to tour until "they could fill stadiums and world peace would ensue", the vocal powerhouse took it upon herself to take The KLF show & music to the masses.Ã And with a shared CO-publishing deal on the album(s) as CO-writer of (2) two of it's biggest tracks, she had just as much of a vested interest as anyone else to see to it that their albums sold... and she scored their biggest sales, ever Although it was much to Bill and Jimmy's chagrin, Wanda took off on a 22-month/90-country/150-city concert tour that spanned six continents, complete with mega doses of publicity & fan support for a hard working siren in six inch heels, who has been revered the world over by her public, peers & press alike, as simply... THE GODDESS!Ã Their repeated pleas to Arista Records for Wanda Dee to stop & desist fell on deaf ears when the daily statistics that came in each day (via Soundscan) clearly confirmed & dictated that wherever Wanda toured with her Kinky Love Force (dancers) to promote both The KLF music & message, the album sold out in stores, just as fast as tickets to Wanda's concerts sold out!Ã In retrospect, it has been Wanda's wish to have the entire KLF family (under the auspices of it's founders, Bill Drummond & Jim Cauty) tour under one banner kick-ass tour (for she felt this is what the public truly wanted), but Bill & Jimmy have consistently resisted her initiations of this premise.Ã Wanda has maintained that since it was Bill & Jimmy who originally "stole" (sampled) her voice onto their tracks (and only invited her onto the album after she settled with them out of court for six figures, royalty & album participation), she was never actually invited to join The KLF, but moreso, ignited... she then carried The KLF torch to the worlds largest rock halls. KLF purists jeered, but true KLF fans cheered! -- Stuart Young, Michelle Ardern & Felix Ardern-Young (2) have moved to: 42B, Sefton Ave, Grey Lynn, Auckland, NZ Same Phone: +64 (0)9 376 8100 say.map@ihug.co.nz Stuey is webmaster of the NZ Green Party: http://www.greens.org.nz/ And webmaster of his own personal website - a cobweb site: http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~stuey/
This is amazing. From my interpretation of the whole Wanda Dee affair - Wanda made a few tracks on a US label in the late 1980's. They were shite. Never sold, and didn't hit any hip-hop fans collection (apart from those who bought it 'cause it had a pretty female on the front). Then Bill 'n' Jimmy got hold of 'To The Bone'. They had sampled from many artists previously, including James Brown, Abba (famously), Public Enemy and Stevie Wonder (well known for his refusal of sample permission) and so they thought that they might as well sample some record that was faceles and nameless. Then Wanda heard it and CAPITALISED ON IT no end. 'Shit, I ain't got no real talent apart from being sexy & having big tits - I may as we'll use their talent to promote myself'. She appeared on the Stadium House videos for WTIL, 3AM & LTTT and then when the guys decided they'd had enough, didn't wanna go to USA and promote, tour etc, and then moved on with Tammy, Wanda grasped the opportunity to tour in the USA as 'THE KLF' with a group of dancers miming to KLF tracks.
From then on her association with The K ends. Nothing else. K foundation came & went, so did the millennium. And yet, here we are, with some bint still trying to capitalise on something that happened to her over 10 years ago.
She may be attractive. She may speak a huge number of languages. She may even be a perforing artist in her own right. But please, Wanda dear, give up the KLF (Kinky Love Force????) connection. It was only 3 lines anyway..... Andrew PS. Anyone know what country 'No more tears' was No 1??? Was it a single? anyone got a single version of it??? What label/format/remixes??? And also wasn't 'All Bound for Mu Mu Land' the strapline to 'Justified and Ancient'?
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Has anyone else just received a truckload of spam from Wanda Dee, GoddessEmpire@aol.com? About 5 hours ago I received 21 emails in a row from her. Some dodgy fucker must have given my her email address saying I wanted to receive updates.
Among the 21 emails there was a new Wanda biography. Here's the KLF paragraphs:
BILL DRUMMOND & JIM CAUTY of The KLF had been around for many years with only moderate underground success, however, their fortunes turned upward when they decided to collaborate with several vocalists, rappers & Wanda as a lead singer, lyricist & sensuous centerpiece of their acclaimed video presentations, throughout the 90's. The result was multimillion selling albums ("The White Room" on Arista/BMG, among them) that scored 6 multi-platinum, international #1 singles that went platinum in 77 countries ("3 AM ETERNAL", "NO MORE TEARS", "WHAT TIME IS LOVE", "LAST TRAIN TO TRANCENTRAL", "ALL BOUND FOR MU MU LAND" and "JUSTIFIED & ANCIENT" w/the late legendary First Lady Of Country Music, MISS TAMMY WYNETTE), and worldwide unit sales in excess of fifteen million copies. Due to global public demand for this incredible music and The KLF producers vehement declination to tour until "they could fill stadiums and world peace would ensue", the vocal powerhouse took it upon herself to take The KLF show & music to the masses. And with a shared CO-publishing deal on the album(s) as CO-writer of (2) two of it's biggest tracks, she had just as much of a vested interest as anyone else to see to it that their albums sold... and she scored their biggest sales, ever
Although it was much to Bill and Jimmy's chagrin, Wanda took off on a 22-month/90-country/150-city concert tour that spanned six continents, complete with mega doses of publicity & fan support for a hard working siren in six inch heels, who has been revered the world over by her public, peers & press alike, as simply... THE GODDESS! Their repeated pleas to Arista Records for Wanda Dee to stop & desist fell on deaf ears when the daily statistics that came in each day (via Soundscan) clearly confirmed & dictated that wherever Wanda toured with her Kinky Love Force (dancers) to promote both The KLF music & message, the album sold out in stores, just as fast as tickets to Wanda's concerts sold out! In retrospect, it has been Wanda's wish to have the entire KLF family (under the auspices of it's founders, Bill Drummond & Jim Cauty) tour under one banner kick-ass tour (for she felt this is what the public truly wanted), but Bill & Jimmy have consistently resisted her initiations of this premise. Wanda has maintained that since it was Bill & Jimmy who originally "stole" (sampled) her voice onto their tracks (and only invited her onto the album after she settled with them out of court for six figures, royalty & album participation), she was never actually invited to join The KLF, but moreso, ignited... she then carried The KLF torch to the worlds largest rock halls. KLF purists jeered, but true KLF fans cheered!
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Stuart Young, Michelle Ardern & Felix Ardern-Young (2) have moved to: 42B, Sefton Ave, Grey Lynn, Auckland, NZ Same Phone: +64 (0)9 376 8100 say.map@ihug.co.nz
Stuey is webmaster of the NZ Green Party: http://www.greens.org.nz/ And webmaster of his own personal website - a cobweb site: http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~stuey/
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PS. Anyone know what country 'No more tears' was No 1??? Was it a single? anyone got a single version of it??? What label/format/remixes??? And also wasn't 'All Bound for Mu Mu Land' the strapline to 'Justified and Ancient'?
'No More Tears' was actually released as a single, but only as a promo... Number one? Pah! And, yup, re: 'Justified and Ancient'! ;-> As long as people still go to see her play live as the 'KLF', she'll keep on doing it - sadly, money talks... l8rs, Nick ;-)
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