I will try to keep this some sort of monthy survey. Ok, here we go... :-) Would you burn 1.000.000 gbp if you had them ? Why / Why not ? --- Thomas Touzimsky same shit // different day
Would you burn 1.000.000 gbp if you had them ? Why / Why not ?
If I'd earnt the money, no way! If I'd won the lottery or something like that... well, it's already been done, hasn't it? Is it still art if you do it a second time? (Reminds me of the Northern Exposure episode where Chris decides he's going to catapult a cow "for art"... until he finds out that Monty Python already did it. So he ends up catapulting Maggie's piano instead.) Michael
Would you burn 1.000.000 gbp if you had them ? Why / Why not ?
I'd take it to a local charity, outside which I'd arrange a meeting with a man from whom I bought a bin liner full of crack and four prostitutes. Hurrah! Not in any way stolen from ( http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mil.millington/saga.htm ) :) Chris
On Sun, Sep 15, 2002 at 10:11:37PM +0200, Thomas Touzimsky wrote:
Would you burn 1.000.000 gbp if you had them ? Why / Why not ?
No. It's been done and the statement wouldn't carry the same shock value or raise any new questions. If anything it would mean that the original act became seen as simply starting a spate of frivolous money-burning. Maybe that would finally classify it, something B&J are unwilling or unable to do, but it would classify it as a fairly meaningingless act (unless millionaires everywhere start doing it, and currencies start devaluing, but that's not very likely really) Having said that, burning it in private and never ever telling anyone might be more meaningful. Could you do *that* ? Bill hasn't done the Pop Star Martyr thing yet, so there's room for someone to carry that out. I can think of dozens of pop stars who should be contacted to see if they'd be willing to die live on stage for the sake of their stardom and their status as a pop legend. In fact, why bother contacting them first, let's just rush the stage and slaughter 'em. jon -- "Faith strikes me as intellectual laziness." - Robert Heinlein
I can think of dozens of pop stars who should be contacted to see if they'd be willing to die live on stage for the sake of their stardom and their status as a pop legend. In fact, why bother contacting them first, let's just rush the stage and slaughter 'em.
Unfortunately, that's been done already. John Lennon, Selena, Rebecca Schaeffer, Gianni Versace, all murdered (technically off-stage, but one can argue that the life of a celeb is *always* on stage) by mentally unstable fans. To be unique, Bill and/or Jimmy would have to do what Colin Abrahal of GBH wanted to do and commit suicide on-stage. But we really wouldn't want to see that, would we? -- Soren Harward soren@byu.edu
On Mon, Sep 16, 2002 at 10:59:29AM -0600, Soren Harward wrote:
I can think of dozens of pop stars who should be contacted to see if they'd be willing to die live on stage for the sake of their stardom and their status as a pop legend. In fact, why bother contacting them first, let's just rush the stage and slaughter 'em.
Unfortunately, that's been done already. John Lennon, Selena, Rebecca Schaeffer, Gianni Versace, all murdered (technically off-stage, but one can argue that the life of a celeb is *always* on stage) by mentally unstable fans. To be unique, Bill and/or Jimmy would have to do what Colin Abrahal of GBH wanted to do and commit suicide on-stage.
Bill explained in 45 (and briefly in Bad Wisdom?) that he'd wanted to do this with an act he was promoting. I'm a bit vague on the details, but I think he wanted Julian Cope to top himself. This was in the days before Bill was a pop star himself, just a manager who wanted his act to be the biggest and best. The point was, though, that it was a conscious act of suicide by the performer. So yes, I would lower it to simple murder by rushing the stage and slaughtering Britney, but Bill's original idea would have been on a whole different level. No, really. When did Abrahal make that comment? Oh, and who told you I'm mentally unstable? I asked everyone to keep it quiet. jon
wasn't it also tied in to the michael k / luther blissett idiom ----- Original Message ----- From: Jonathan Wakely <cow@compsoc.man.ac.uk> To: <klf@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 6:05 PM Subject: Re: [KLF] Would you...?
On Mon, Sep 16, 2002 at 10:59:29AM -0600, Soren Harward wrote:
I can think of dozens of pop stars who should be contacted to see if they'd be willing to die live on stage for the sake of their stardom and their status as a pop legend. In fact, why bother contacting them first, let's just rush the stage and slaughter 'em.
Unfortunately, that's been done already. John Lennon, Selena, Rebecca Schaeffer, Gianni Versace, all murdered (technically off-stage, but one can argue that the life of a celeb is *always* on stage) by mentally unstable fans. To be unique, Bill and/or Jimmy would have to do what Colin Abrahal of GBH wanted to do and commit suicide on-stage.
Bill explained in 45 (and briefly in Bad Wisdom?) that he'd wanted to do this with an act he was promoting. I'm a bit vague on the details, but I think he wanted Julian Cope to top himself. This was in the days before Bill was a pop star himself, just a manager who wanted his act to be the biggest and best.
The point was, though, that it was a conscious act of suicide by the performer. So yes, I would lower it to simple murder by rushing the stage and slaughtering Britney, but Bill's original idea would have been on a whole different level. No, really.
When did Abrahal make that comment?
Oh, and who told you I'm mentally unstable? I asked everyone to keep it quiet.
jon
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On Mon, Sep 16, 2002 at 08:24:06PM +0100, PVC@PositiveVoid.co.uk wrote:
wasn't it also tied in to the michael k / luther blissett idiom
My mental instability? yes, very closely. Oh, you mean the suicide star? I think Luther committed suicide on Jan 1 2000, but as an act of reincarnation or rebirth, to abandon his identity, rather than as a staged publicity stunt to become a pop legend. But I wouldn't believe me if I were you.
----- Original Message ----- From: Jonathan Wakely <cow@compsoc.man.ac.uk> To: <klf@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 6:05 PM Subject: Re: [KLF] Would you...?
On Mon, Sep 16, 2002 at 10:59:29AM -0600, Soren Harward wrote:
I can think of dozens of pop stars who should be contacted to see if they'd be willing to die live on stage for the sake of their stardom and their status as a pop legend. In fact, why bother contacting them first, let's just rush the stage and slaughter 'em.
Unfortunately, that's been done already. John Lennon, Selena, Rebecca Schaeffer, Gianni Versace, all murdered (technically off-stage, but one can argue that the life of a celeb is *always* on stage) by mentally unstable fans. To be unique, Bill and/or Jimmy would have to do what Colin Abrahal of GBH wanted to do and commit suicide on-stage.
Bill explained in 45 (and briefly in Bad Wisdom?) that he'd wanted to do this with an act he was promoting. I'm a bit vague on the details, but I think he wanted Julian Cope to top himself. This was in the days before Bill was a pop star himself, just a manager who wanted his act to be the biggest and best.
The point was, though, that it was a conscious act of suicide by the performer. So yes, I would lower it to simple murder by rushing the stage and slaughtering Britney, but Bill's original idea would have been on a whole different level. No, really.
When did Abrahal make that comment?
Oh, and who told you I'm mentally unstable? I asked everyone to keep it quiet.
-- "That invisible hand of Adam Smith's seems to offer an extended middle finger to an awful lot of people." - George Carlin
Now that happens if you go to London for one week and miss all the answers, finding the one single fault in the question... I was more aiming at the situation that it had NOT be done before. So if there had been no trip to Isle of Jura, no K Foundation, maybe not even the JAMS or the KLF after all - would YOU, either as artist or common man (woman), burn the money ? --- Thomas Touzimsky same shit // different day ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonathan Wakely" <cow@compsoc.man.ac.uk> To: <klf@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 4:59 PM Subject: Re: [KLF] Would you...?
On Mon, Sep 16, 2002 at 08:24:06PM +0100, PVC@PositiveVoid.co.uk wrote:
wasn't it also tied in to the michael k / luther blissett idiom
My mental instability? yes, very closely.
Oh, you mean the suicide star? I think Luther committed suicide on Jan 1 2000, but as an act of reincarnation or rebirth, to abandon his identity, rather than as a staged publicity stunt to become a pop legend.
But I wouldn't believe me if I were you.
----- Original Message ----- From: Jonathan Wakely <cow@compsoc.man.ac.uk> To: <klf@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 6:05 PM Subject: Re: [KLF] Would you...?
On Mon, Sep 16, 2002 at 10:59:29AM -0600, Soren Harward wrote:
I can think of dozens of pop stars who should be contacted to see if they'd be willing to die live on stage for the sake of their stardom and their status as a pop legend. In fact, why bother contacting them first, let's just rush the stage and slaughter 'em.
Unfortunately, that's been done already. John Lennon, Selena, Rebecca Schaeffer, Gianni Versace, all murdered (technically off-stage, but one can argue that the life of a celeb is *always* on stage) by mentally unstable fans. To be unique, Bill and/or Jimmy would have to do what Colin Abrahal of GBH wanted to do and commit suicide on-stage.
Bill explained in 45 (and briefly in Bad Wisdom?) that he'd wanted to do this with an act he was promoting. I'm a bit vague on the details, but I think he wanted Julian Cope to top himself. This was in the days before Bill was a pop star himself, just a manager who wanted his act to be the biggest and best.
The point was, though, that it was a conscious act of suicide by the performer. So yes, I would lower it to simple murder by rushing the stage and slaughtering Britney, but Bill's original idea would have been on a whole different level. No, really.
When did Abrahal make that comment?
Oh, and who told you I'm mentally unstable? I asked everyone to keep it quiet.
-- "That invisible hand of Adam Smith's seems to offer an extended middle finger to an awful lot of people." - George Carlin
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Tommy Cooper. Saw that happen live with my very own eyes. Died on stage. On national television. A surreal moment I will never see again. Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "Soren Harward" <soren@byu.edu> To: <klf@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 5:59 PM Subject: Re: [KLF] Would you...?
I can think of dozens of pop stars who should be contacted to see if they'd be willing to die live on stage for the sake of their stardom and their status as a pop legend. In fact, why bother contacting them first, let's just rush the stage and slaughter 'em.
Unfortunately, that's been done already. John Lennon, Selena, Rebecca Schaeffer, Gianni Versace, all murdered (technically off-stage, but one can argue that the life of a celeb is *always* on stage) by mentally unstable fans. To be unique, Bill and/or Jimmy would have to do what Colin Abrahal of GBH wanted to do and commit suicide on-stage. But we really wouldn't want to see that, would we? -- Soren Harward soren@byu.edu _______________________________________________ KLF mailing list KLF@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/klf
Soren Harward wrote:
I can think of dozens of pop stars who should be contacted to see if they'd be willing to die live on stage for the sake of their stardom and their status as a pop legend. In fact, why bother contacting them first, let's just rush the stage and slaughter 'em.
Unfortunately, that's been done already. John Lennon, Selena, Rebecca Schaeffer, Gianni Versace, all murdered (technically off-stage, but one can argue that the life of a celeb is *always* on stage) by mentally unstable fans.
Gianni Versace was an early-twenties pop star coming to the end of a year or two dominating the charts?
To be unique, Bill and/or Jimmy would have to do what Colin Abrahal of GBH wanted to do and commit suicide on-stage.
Well, quite.
But we really wouldn't want to see that, would we?
If you move some more I'll kill you for sure.
Would you burn 1.000.000 gbp if you had them ? Why / Why not ? No fucking way, I'd spend it on fast cars, a nice house, holidays, music and lager. All the things money should be spent on! ;-) Phil
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