Hi Everybody Im Martin and have been a KLF fan for a about 8months. I got into them because of the stunts first and the music second. I joined the list because I always seem to need KLF info because of the amount of stuff they did. ASnyway I hope you will all find me interesting. 2003: What The Fuck Is Going On?
hello, i am replying because other people wont (prompting other people to reply here), welcome to the list, people are special here (translate as you wish) Jon Doe ----- Original Message ----- From: Jean Bradbury To: klf@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 4:31 PM Subject: [KLF] Introducing Myself Hi Everybody Im Martin and have been a KLF fan for a about 8months. I got into them because of the stunts first and the music second. I joined the list because I always seem to need KLF info because of the amount of stuff they did. ASnyway I hope you will all find me interesting. 2003: What The Fuck Is Going On?
um... i rejoined the list a while back, and nobody gave a flying-<insert your own>. :-) people here, indeed, are cool. unlike some other lists, it's actually useful - there are projects for releasing rare tracks, t-shirts, etc. now, only if there are more flame wars... ----- Original Message ----- From: Jon Doe To: klf@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 1:01 PM Subject: Re: [KLF] Introducing Myself hello, i am replying because other people wont (prompting other people to reply here), welcome to the list, people are special here (translate as you wish) Jon Doe ----- Original Message ----- From: Jean Bradbury To: klf@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 4:31 PM Subject: [KLF] Introducing Myself Hi Everybody Im Martin and have been a KLF fan for a about 8months. I got into them because of the stunts first and the music second. I joined the list because I always seem to need KLF info because of the amount of stuff they did. ASnyway I hope you will all find me interesting. 2003: What The Fuck Is Going On?
Just put a few non-standard characters in the subject heading ({[[]}){FTP}[OT]. That'll start a good flame.... :) Seriously though, Welcome th the world of K. I'd go back through the archives for the last few months if I were you , there's been some good stuff lately. Andrew -----Original Message----- From: klf-admin@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:klf-admin@mailman.xmission.com]On Behalf Of dasa Sent: 23 February 2003 21:15 To: klf@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: [KLF] Introducing Myself um... i rejoined the list a while back, and nobody gave a flying-<insert your own>. :-) people here, indeed, are cool. unlike some other lists, it's actually useful - there are projects for releasing rare tracks, t-shirts, etc. now, only if there are more flame wars... --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.456 / Virus Database: 256 - Release Date: 18/02/2003
Just put a few non-standard characters in the subject heading ({[[]}){FTP}[OT]. That'll start a good flame.... :)
oh please dont. not that. not again. there's a drought on in victoria. no water to spare ;-)
Seriously though, Welcome th the world of K. I'd go back through the archives for the last few months if I were you , there's been some good stuff lately.
i seriously second this. the archives are your friend. so's google. if you cant work them out, email me offlist and I'll assist. cheers brendan
a good example of this is the weekend video post which is up at the moment, with somebody getting mad at Rm stringer for missing the point, this guy is obviously really truely angry, but little does he know HE is more redundant as we all noticed the same point but didnt need to post, so welcome to the list! (i just read that post again, it is so funny) (off topic totally, try and find the 7" out last week by Pitman called Twat Farm/ It takes Tea http://217.158.65.109/ASF/SF112241.asf not thew best verse on this 7" by far but gives you an idea ) Jon Doe ----- Original Message ----- From: dasa To: klf@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 9:14 PM Subject: Re: [KLF] Introducing Myself um... i rejoined the list a while back, and nobody gave a flying-<insert your own>. :-) people here, indeed, are cool. unlike some other lists, it's actually useful - there are projects for releasing rare tracks, t-shirts, etc. now, only if there are more flame wars... ----- Original Message ----- From: Jon Doe To: klf@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 1:01 PM Subject: Re: [KLF] Introducing Myself hello, i am replying because other people wont (prompting other people to reply here), welcome to the list, people are special here (translate as you wish) Jon Doe ----- Original Message ----- From: Jean Bradbury To: klf@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 4:31 PM Subject: [KLF] Introducing Myself Hi Everybody Im Martin and have been a KLF fan for a about 8months. I got into them because of the stunts first and the music second. I joined the list because I always seem to need KLF info because of the amount of stuff they did. ASnyway I hope you will all find me interesting. 2003: What The Fuck Is Going On?
Haha, MC Pitman is great! Do you have the Pitman Says MP3? Hilarious stuff... "You want my biscuits? You can't have my biscuits." Truly profound. Chris H Jon Doe wrote:
(off topic totally, try and find the 7" out last week by Pitman called Twat Farm/ It takes Tea http://217.158.65.109/ASF/SF112241.asf not thew best verse on this 7" by far but gives you an idea ) Jon Doe
The Norwegian electronica-duo Royksopp won a major Norwegian music award this weekend -called Spellemann of the year (don't ask...). During the award speach they specifically thanked the KLF for inspiration and for making them better people - whatever that may mean. If you haven't already I recommend that you listen to their music as it's quite good. It does not sound anything like the KLF however. More about the duo here: http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=Btu5k8qm9btq4 Cheers, Gustav __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/
The Norwegian electronica-duo Royksopp won a major Norwegian music award this weekend -called Spellemann of the year (don't ask...). During the award speach they specifically thanked the KLF for inspiration and for making them better people - whatever that may mean.
So they're not influenced in the way Scooter are, for example? <grin> I make it a policy not to listen to a band whose name I can't pronounce. Care to enlighten us? On a more general topic, I think this is a perfect example of where Bill and Jimmy have lost touch these days. General reports we get back from public events where Bill and Jimmy turn up point towards their attitude that their old music fans should "get a life" and move on, much as they have. What they appear to fail to appreciate is that their actions during the time they were "The KLF" will continue to have an effect as people in that generation that listened to them move into the lime-light in their own right. What is more, they have left a body of work that will, rightly or wrongly, outlive them. (They probably feel wrongly, given the deletion of their back catalogue.) Should any artist have this attitude? And should we respect it? Discuss. 500 words or less. Due by the end of semester. Michael
The Norwegian electronica-duo Royksopp won a major Norwegian music award this weekend -called Spellemann of the year (don't ask...). During the award speach they specifically thanked the KLF for inspiration and for making them better people - whatever that may mean.
So they're not influenced in the way Scooter are, for example? <grin>
I make it a policy not to listen to a band whose name I can't pronounce. Care to enlighten us?
I gotta say that their album (I thinks it's called melody 3am) is one of the best dance-oriented thing I've heard for a very long time. Could do with a few more vocals though. Definately no direct KLF references or samples.
On a more general topic, I think this is a perfect example of where Bill and Jimmy have lost touch these days. General reports we get back from public events where Bill and Jimmy turn up point towards their attitude that their old music fans should "get a life" and move on, much as they have.
What they appear to fail to appreciate is that their actions during the time they were "The KLF" will continue to have an effect as people in that generation that listened to them move into the lime-light in their own right. What is more, they have left a body of work that will, rightly or wrongly, outlive them. (They probably feel wrongly, given the deletion of their back catalogue.)
So it's OK for them to be heavily influenced by music and books (illuminatus trilogy) but if they happen to influence anyone via their music then that person is 'sad' and needs to get a life? Will someone ask Bill the following: If it wasn't for KLF fans, how many people would've turned up at The Barbican last time to see his shit? Andrew --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.456 / Virus Database: 256 - Release Date: 18/02/2003
just trying to discuss. no real point.
On a more general topic, I think this is a perfect example of where Bill and Jimmy have lost touch these days. General reports we get back from public events where Bill and Jimmy turn up point towards their attitude that their old music fans should "get a life" and move on, much as they have.
possibly this could be likened to those bands who have a long catalogue, and having to do concerts to support new albums. the bands need to, and perhaps want to, play the new stuff because that's what they're doing now. they throw in one or two for the old fans, but mostly its about their current work. it'd be kinda annoying having to discuss the one part of your life once you've gone on to what in your mind are bigger and better and far more interesting. tangenting widely to try to make the point relevant to the 'artist' that is bill, one non-musician who fits that description above would be Hugh Grant ;-) i get the impression from the reviews/reports that bill considers himself to be an artist now, not a musician. that was what he did. now he does art/books/stuff
What they appear to fail to appreciate is that their actions during the time they were "The KEF" will continue to have an effect as people in that generation that listened to them move into the lime-light in their own right. What is more, they have left a body of work that will, rightly or wrongly, outlive them. (They probably feel wrongly, given the deletion of their back catalogue.)
q: how do other "famous name bands" feel about being inspirations for other bands? do any of them talk about it? this doesn't apply to those "really old bands" milking the public doing tours just for the $$$.
So it's OK for them to be heavily influenced by music and books (illuminatus trilogy) but if they happen to influence anyone via their music then that person is 'sad' and needs to get a life? Will someone ask Bill the
influence i think is fine. obsessing on tiny details of KLF lore/mythology isn't. funny thought: imagine some 23rd century archaeologist digging up KLF stuff and wondering about saint jimmy and bill and this moo moo stuff. funnier thought: same people but digging up scooter stuff :-)
following: If it wasn't for KLF fans, how many people would've turned up at The Barbican last time to see his shit?
the people who he wanted to see it - the fans who liked his current stuff?
Should any artist have this attitude?
i think its kind of fair for them to have the attitude. i would guess that most muso's dont like continually being compared to their early works, or constantly being associated with the same old work. seems fair enough. its not like its a life or death matter if we never really truely know about love trance/etc.
And should we respect it?
if they've specifically said they dont wish to discuss then yes. if its an open session q&a, then no. fair game. perhaps the thing we should do is hope that they run out of money and are forced/convinced to release extra footage enhanced director special icecream edition dvds/whatever.
Discuss. 500 words or less. Due by the end of semester.
um....too lazy to count, and whats a semester? cheers brendan (if i spent more time at school when i was at uni, i might have made it to uni after school :-)
Michael Hurwood wrote on 00:19 2003-02-24 -0000:
The Norwegian electronica-duo Royksopp won a major (...) (...) I make it a policy not to listen to a band whose name I can't pronounce. Care to enlighten us?
It's actually Røyksopp (røyk=smoke; sopp=mushroom), and it's pronounced something like "'Ruyk-sop" (sopp sounds like top).
On Monday, February 24, 2003, at 12:19 am, Michael Hurwood wrote:
I make it a policy not to listen to a band whose name I can't pronounce. Care to enlighten us?
i don't suppose you get that advert for O2 i think it is. it for a mobile phone network - but being in the uk, i guess they don't opperate in down under one of their other tracks is on another advert on british tv too - but i guess that's a bit redundant too erm.... how best to describe them..... i'd say they're like more mainstream Orb maybe? more mellow than Bentley Rhythum Ace, but along those lines although, two be fair, there's only 2 tracks on the album that i like
What they appear to fail to appreciate is that their actions during the time they were "The KLF" will continue to have an effect as people in that generation that listened to them move into the lime-light in their own right. What is more, they have left a body of work that will, rightly or wrongly, outlive them. (They probably feel wrongly, given the deletion of their back catalogue.)
Should any artist have this attitude? And should we respect it?
isn't that the point of art though? that it out lives you because you create it at point in time and then move on, but it stays and influences anyone else that is in the same emotional/mental place you where when you made it so i think they have a right to want to move on, and also to be knarked that all we seem to be interested in is them for their past work, not so much interested their current work (or at least that's how it probably appears to them) and i think, they probably also have a right to want us to move on too. they've been there and done that, and moved on to a higher plane of art. but us fanatics are still stuck hung up over their earlier stuff. it's like going upto one of todays leading artists and saying "yes, yes, i quite like this piece you've just won the award for and they are hanging in the center of the tate modern, but can you talk to me about these crayon pictures you did at kindergarten, those are the work of yours i really like" or something -- --- if you have a cross to bear i think its fair if you use it as a crutch - moloko -- ----------------------------------------------------- -- illitrate Publicashions - jai@illitrate.co.uk - http://www.illitrate.co.uk/ - --- --------------------------------------------------- ---
i don't suppose you get that advert for O2 i think it is. it for a mobile phone network - but being in the uk, i guess they don't opperate in down under
The german O2 adverts used Leftfield's "Release the pressure". At least they got some good music taste. --- Thomas Touzimsky "Some millennia, you should better stay in bed."
Yeah, we have Leftfield here in the UK. and Royksopp's music was on the picture messaging ad for O2, too, with the baby's head everywhere. Which is a sample based track. Hmmm... Del
-----Original Message----- From: klf-admin@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:klf-admin@mailman.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Thomas Touzimsky Sent: 24 February 2003 10:54 To: klf@mailman.xmission.com Subject: [KLF] Re: [getting slightly offtopic now] O2
i don't suppose you get that advert for O2 i think it is. it for a mobile phone network - but being in the uk, i guess they don't opperate in down under
The german O2 adverts used Leftfield's "Release the pressure". At least they got some good music taste.
--- Thomas Touzimsky
"Some millennia, you should better stay in bed."
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