Re: [KLF] How to Become an Artist
All tickets sold out and very unlikely to be any returns... :-( http://www.artguide.org/uk/AG.pl?Action=4085971E&Axis=1028746207F http://www.artguide.org/uk/AG.pl?Action=ExhibsByName TALK BY BILL DRUMMOND: HOW TO BE AN ARTIST Arnolfini Gallery, Bristol 12-Sep-2002 Anyone else seen these? http://www.arnolfini.demon.co.uk/visual_arts/drummond/ http://www.arnolfini.demon.co.uk/visual_arts/drummond/forsale.jpg SHOWSTOPPER Smaller displays in the galleries between major exhibitions Thursday 12 to Sunday 15 September Talks: Thursday 12 and Friday 13 September 7.00pm Bill Drummond : How To Be An Artist Inspired by his favourite artist Richard Long, Bill Drummond sets out on a quest to sell a photographic print by Long entitled 'A Smell of Sulphur in the Wind' for $20,000. How To Be An Artist (Penkiln Burn £15.00) documents his drive north from Southampton to Dounreay, via Bristol, during which he reflects on the work of art. Returning to Bristol to exhibit photographs and material gathered from his journey, Bill will discuss his and our relationship to art, as he cuts up Long's work into 20,000 equal pieces, and offers them for sale for one US dollar each. Bill Drummond has used various strategies to interrogate and subvert the cultural landscape, including pop music (KLF), writing (The Manual, Bad Wisdom and 45) and actions (the burning of a considerable amount of money). Talks £3.00 / £2.00 concessions. Advance booking recommended Exhibition free The first of two showstoppers featuring writers who use the journey as an element of their practice. Iain Sinclair will exhibit visual documentation, artwork and video from his forthcoming book London Orbital in November. http://www.tangents.co.uk/blog/2002_08_11_archive.html Monday, August 12, 2002 Road Trip I used to kind of enjoy road trips, but now I don’t. Now I just tend to get kind of grouchy and fed up. I think it’s my age. I get uncomfortable sitting in a car for too many hours, and besides, most other motorists are idiots. Of course I know this from my cycling experiences, but on Big Roads it seems even more obvious. This is the nature of life, however, and I suppose I ought really to get used to it: most things are spoilt by the presence of people. Or at least, too many people. But can I get used to it? No I cannot. Oh well. This road trip was up north to Yorkshire, and on the way up the rain just came down pretty much incessantly, which was fairly typical for an English August. Or at least for this English August. We decided to take a route that went via Manchester, so we could take the M62 across to Leeds. This decision was partly based on Bill Drummond and his championing of the M62 both at the event at which we bought bits of his Richard Long artwork, and in his How To Be An Artist book. Bill reckons the M62 is a bit special. I have to disagree, however, since on our experience last Friday it was just plain miserable. I expect on a fine day it’s a whole lot better, because after all most things are enhanced by a bit of sunlight. Or at least by the lack of impenetrable cloud and rain. The other reason to take the M62 was so I could play ‘The M62 Song’ by The Doves. Before I put it on the stereo C asked if it was fast. I said, um, no, it’s slow. It suited the pace of the traffic perfectly. The lyrics go ‘waiting for my love, waiting for my love… waiting for a love that never comes’. The natural assumption is that the love in question was caught up in the traffic and the rain. But what do I know? Playing the Doves album as we traversed the M62, C noted that some of it sounded like The Sea Urchins, and I have to admit she’s right. It’s the vocals. It’s not all the time, but it is there… believe me. I think this is a good thing. It also struck me that at times the Doves also sound like Adorable. Again, I think this is a good thing. On the way home on Saturday we caught hordes of traffic around Bristol that slowed the three lanes of the M5 to an almost standstill. There never seems to be a reason for these tailbacks, just bunching of masses of vehicles causing everything to grind to a halt. My theory is it’s all to do with people going too slowly in the wrong lane, like everyone wanting to get into the ‘fast’ lane because they think it means they move quicker, no matter how fast your car will actually go. Or something. The other theory of course is that all the tailbacks are caused by cars towing caravans. I really don’t understand caravans. What are they about? If you want freedom to roam, take a tent and a sleeping bag, or if you’re really hardcore, take a bivvy bag. And if you want your home comforts, well, in the words of Mark E., ‘get a hotel’. Caravans just seem to be for people who can’t decide what they really want. http://www.tangents.co.uk/tangents/main/2002/may/drummond.html
Well apparently there were only 30 tickets for the event in total (per night), so maybe not too big a surprise that neither you or I were able to get a ticket. The talk itself was in Gallery 3, where the ongoing exhibition also is, and the room itself can probably only comfortably seat 30. There are about a dozen of Bill's works around the walls, including the motorway chevrons sign, and a "For Sale" carpet. About half the exhibits seem to be from the "Sulphur In The Wind" adventure. I went to the exhibition during the late afternoon today, and managed to have a short conversation with Bill, while there was just myself, my girlfriend, Bill, and that guy called Chris whose surname I can't remember but who was the warm-up act for the "Bad Wisdom" readings years ago. Probably got more chance to speak to him than if I'd been at the talk, in fact. As I haven't really followed Bill Drummond's career in art particularly closely (haven't gotten around to buying "How To Be An Artist" yet, although I will as soon as somebody buys me a book token for my birthday), I decided to ask him about something that in a way I wanted to get confirmed from the man himself- how much of a problem he felt it was that his past, more well-known work would overshadow his current work, and that there would always be people fixated and continually quoting and re-quoting from work he did ten years ago rather than work he does now. As I started to mention words like 'fans' I could see him visibly shrinking away from me, obviously worried that a 'fan' had entered the building and might be trying to corner him for hours and ask lots of over-asked KLF questions. He seemed to warm a little though. He explained that it could be a real problem for him, but he tried to limit it as soon as possible. At tonight's talk, he said, he was intending to not let people ask questions, partly because "I do the talking" but also as a way to prevent any KLF obsessives from recycling old questions that have nothing to do with "How To Be An Artist". Two of the works on the wall were two lists, one named "I Have" (a potted biography of Bill Drummond) and the other named "I Will". Tellingly, on the "I Have" list, there is nothing listed between 1981 ("discovered Richard Long") and 1994 ("burnt the money"). So my girlfriend and I went for a pint and I felt as if something that had been nagging at me for years had been confirmed- my opinion, now with some solid evidence behind it, is that Bill Drummond is far enough beyond the KLF to be able to look back at it realistically, but at least in part because of the still large numbers of KLF obsessives, he has no real intention of returning to there. Having said that I'll probably be proven completely wrong at the Barbican when suddenly, while the stage is empty, a giant pyramid blaster is wheeled on-stage and after a few seconds it begins to resound with the chant of "MU MU!"... Stuart. On Thu 05 Sep, John wrote:
All tickets sold out and very unlikely to be any returns... :-(
http://www.artguide.org/uk/AG.pl?Action=4085971E&Axis=1028746207F http://www.artguide.org/uk/AG.pl?Action=ExhibsByName TALK BY BILL DRUMMOND: HOW TO BE AN ARTIST Arnolfini Gallery, Bristol 12-Sep-2002
Anyone else seen these? http://www.arnolfini.demon.co.uk/visual_arts/drummond/ http://www.arnolfini.demon.co.uk/visual_arts/drummond/forsale.jpg
-- Stuart Bruce - klf@atomiser.demon.co.uk or preferably stuart@atomiser.demon.co.uk The Utah Saints Mailing List http://groups.yahoo.com/group/utahsaints/
Stuart Bruce <klf@atomiser.demon.co.uk> writes
"How To Be An Artist".
Feature from The Sunday Times supplement last weekend: http://www.fnord.demon.co.uk/artist.jpg
I am just curious about Jimmy's opinion about the old KLF times. I feel like he is more "related" to their works nowadays than Bill. --- Thomas Touzimsky same shit // different day ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stuart Bruce" <klf@atomiser.demon.co.uk> To: "KLF mailing list" <klf@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 10:56 PM Subject: Re: [KLF] How to Become an Artist
Well apparently there were only 30 tickets for the event in total (per night), so maybe not too big a surprise that neither you or I were able to get a ticket. The talk itself was in Gallery 3, where the ongoing exhibition also is, and the room itself can probably only comfortably seat 30. There are about a dozen of Bill's works around the walls, including the motorway chevrons sign, and a "For Sale" carpet. About half the exhibits seem to be from the "Sulphur In The Wind" adventure.
I went to the exhibition during the late afternoon today, and managed to have a short conversation with Bill, while there was just myself, my girlfriend, Bill, and that guy called Chris whose surname I can't remember but who was the warm-up act for the "Bad Wisdom" readings years ago. Probably got more chance to speak to him than if I'd been at the talk, in fact.
As I haven't really followed Bill Drummond's career in art particularly closely (haven't gotten around to buying "How To Be An Artist" yet, although I will as soon as somebody buys me a book token for my birthday), I decided to ask him about something that in a way I wanted to get confirmed from the man himself- how much of a problem he felt it was that his past, more well-known work would overshadow his current work, and that there would always be people fixated and continually quoting and re-quoting from work he did ten years ago rather than work he does now.
As I started to mention words like 'fans' I could see him visibly shrinking away from me, obviously worried that a 'fan' had entered the building and might be trying to corner him for hours and ask lots of over-asked KLF questions. He seemed to warm a little though.
He explained that it could be a real problem for him, but he tried to limit it as soon as possible. At tonight's talk, he said, he was intending to not let people ask questions, partly because "I do the talking" but also as a way to prevent any KLF obsessives from recycling old questions that have nothing to do with "How To Be An Artist".
Two of the works on the wall were two lists, one named "I Have" (a potted biography of Bill Drummond) and the other named "I Will". Tellingly, on the "I Have" list, there is nothing listed between 1981 ("discovered Richard Long") and 1994 ("burnt the money").
So my girlfriend and I went for a pint and I felt as if something that had been nagging at me for years had been confirmed- my opinion, now with some solid evidence behind it, is that Bill Drummond is far enough beyond the KLF to be able to look back at it realistically, but at least in part because of the still large numbers of KLF obsessives, he has no real intention of returning to there.
Having said that I'll probably be proven completely wrong at the Barbican when suddenly, while the stage is empty, a giant pyramid blaster is wheeled on-stage and after a few seconds it begins to resound with the chant of "MU MU!"...
Stuart.
On Thu 05 Sep, John wrote:
All tickets sold out and very unlikely to be any returns... :-(
http://www.artguide.org/uk/AG.pl?Action=4085971E&Axis=1028746207F http://www.artguide.org/uk/AG.pl?Action=ExhibsByName TALK BY BILL DRUMMOND: HOW TO BE AN ARTIST Arnolfini Gallery, Bristol 12-Sep-2002
Anyone else seen these? http://www.arnolfini.demon.co.uk/visual_arts/drummond/ http://www.arnolfini.demon.co.uk/visual_arts/drummond/forsale.jpg
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