Hi everyone, I thought I'd just pop up and post something about "live" gigs. I know theres a list of live gigs somewhere on-line (can't remember the link, though), but for the record heres mine: Live performance in Sweden in late 1987, outside Abba offices, when burning copies of their debut LP. According to the "Shag Times" sleeve notes, anyway. Does the "Live on Stage at the Benio" bit in "Burn the Bastards" refer to live JAMMs appearances? I wonder ... I think Bill and Jimmy started DJing with Alex Paterson in the first half of 1989, but I'm not sure. Certainly, their penchant for Apollo samples started around then. There may also have been evenings with Tony Thorpe around this time. Graham Lees live performance (semi-improvised) of Madrugada Eterna on steel guitar, which was recorded during a party, and then turned into the Chill Out track we know and love. I think this was recorded at Trancentral on 31st July 1989. Monday 31st July 1989 coincides with the release of Kylie Said to Jason (remember, folks, Graham's "Madrugada Eterna" didn't appear until the CD single in September) and seemed to be the first date the KLF ever played live (although Im sure I read somewhere their version of WTIL that night last 15 minutes, so the version of JAMSCD4 may be edited down). Presumably the night began and ended at Trancentral, with a visit to the Land of Oz in the middle. Sunday October 1st 1989 Chipping Norton Rave, as featured in the video where the KLF throw £1 Scottish notes on the crowd (or dollar bills, according to Andy. Not sure which story is true). The quote from "ID" magazine would suggest that "Helter Skelter" happened the same evening (Saturday 31/10/89 and 1/11/89) - so maybe they are the same rave. According to the video of Chipping Norton, they performed "What Time is Love" (and threw down bills from the tower with Cressida shouting "Free money!!!" amongst the crowd - no sign of Alex Paterson on the tower, though) and "3 AM Eternal". They also appeared to be playing "Pacific State" at one point - and started proceedings with "Jerusalem" (an old-fashioned vocal version). There were also a few Apollo samples and the "Blue Danube". During the autumn/winter of 89/90, Bill and Jimmy DJed a great deal with Alex Paterson and Youth (and possibly some of the Gee Street Records/"Eternity Project One" crowd?) at the Land of Oz and Trancentral. I think this may have been where the "Monster Attack Mix" of "WTIL" originated (which was distributed just amongst friends) as well as the early Orb/"Chill Out" sound. "A Huge Ever-Growing Pulsating ... " etc was recorded the morning after a DJ party in late 1989 (as I imagine was "Chill Out" possibly?) Sadly, no recordings of their DJ sets seem to exist (except possibly the Made@3AM bootleg???). However, the appearance of Jesus Loves You (Boy George's band, doing "After the Love Has Gone") on JAMSCD5 seems to suggest some link - possibly a live PA with them around that time? This is just speculation. Anyway ... Mashall Lane Community Centre, Bootle, 15-17 March 1990 (Reverberation), appeared with Echo & the Bunnymen (in their Ian McCulloch-less days) to perform WTIL. Follow this link for an e-bay auction of the poster: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3802598580. This version of WTIL was recorded by Neil Dutton, I think, and in a very lo-fi way, on the "Arkive 1" bootleg. At the end, Will Sergeant says: Thanks to Mr. Jimmy Cauty (or something like that). This performance seemed to mark the end of the "ambient" phase of the KLF, and the beginning of the "stadium house" era, which was ushered in by: May 1990 Appearance in a club in Holland, where the sound equipment is passed around the audience. This can be seen briefly in the Cornfields version of the WTIL video, as well as in interview clips. This version was a full "PA" KLF - with rappers and dancers. I'm sure I read somewhere (possibly one of the magazines for those old "Volume" CDs) that this was a regular line-up at KLF parties during that summer (parties at Trancentral, anyway), and these "party" versions of their old "Pure Trance" records formed the basis of "stadium house". The "band" as appears on August's TOTP with "WTIL" is a similar line-up to the one that appeared at the club in May. May 1990 - Not sure if this was before or after the club in Holland, but what about their time on Jura filming "Waiting"? Some music must have been performed "live" then - even if it was only to sheep? Also - on a different subject - anyone else notice that the soundtrack to "Waiting" starts with Scott Piering saying "I need to get a hold of the KLF ... this is the 22nd of the 11th". Clearly, this phone message dates from November 1989 - I wonder what the KLF were doing that November, why they had hidden away, and why Scott needed to get a hold of them ...? Anyway ... June 1990 - Copehagen gig? Not sure how many live PAs they did that summer, before the release of "WTIL (Live at Trancentral)" (which was apparently based on their live PA version of the track). Autumn 1991 Appearance in Germany, to promote The White Room movie with movie executives present, and a lot of sheep. March 1992 The Brits 1992, appearance with Extreme Noise Terror. August 1992 After seeing the Red Army Choir at that years Edinburgh Festival, Bill organises a recording session with them (at the Village Hall in Newton Mearns, Dumfriesshire, his home town; this is also where The Man was recorded) with Jimmy present. Im sure there was some sort of performance that night. It must have been late 1992 or early 1993. This was when they recorded K Sera Sera. June 1993 Not a real appearance, but the Orb closed their set at Glastonbury that year with K Sera Sera, three months before its release in Israel. First appearance of the K? October 1993 The interstellar anthem appears again, played from one of the two orange K Foundation tanks, the night of the Turner Prize. September 1997 The 2K reunion at the Barbican. Originally intended for the 2nd September, but abandoned after the death of Princess Diana. Rescheduled for two weeks later. John
talking about the klf gig, there's another one according to a french journalist from the magazine "best", he was on the isle of jura filming "the rites of mu" with other journalists : The next morning, the klf take us to liverpool in a private airplane. In the bus leaving the airport, we are told that in 3 hours we will go onstage under the name of " The ice cream men and the justified ancients of mu mu" in front of 2000 people. At the theatre, the rehearshal are horrible, we are with our orange costume. But when the show is on and our procession arrive onstage it is a fantastic triomph. In their ice cream van, bill and jimmy are laughing while asking the audience to come onstage to buy ice cream. I tried to translate from french, hope u'll understand... I can scan the article if some of u want it seb
i have heard about this, must try and remember who from... when taken to Jura at one point they feared for their lives! Also they mentioned about this gig. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Seb" <seb.ledys@laposte.net> To: "All bound for Mu-Mu Land." <klf@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 1:49 PM Subject: Re: [KLF] KLF live gigs
talking about the klf gig, there's another one according to a french journalist from the magazine "best", he was on the isle of jura filming "the rites of mu" with other journalists :
The next morning, the klf take us to liverpool in a private airplane. In the bus leaving the airport, we are told that in 3 hours we will go onstage under the name of " The ice cream men and the justified ancients of mu mu" in front of 2000 people. At the theatre, the rehearshal are horrible, we are with our orange costume. But when the show is on and our procession arrive onstage it is a fantastic triomph. In their ice cream van, bill and jimmy are laughing while asking the audience to come onstage to buy ice cream.
I tried to translate from french, hope u'll understand... I can scan the article if some of u want it
seb
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Years ago there was a site with the whole LP encoded to mp3s - track titles, everything. Alas, I cannot find my burned copy of this treasure. Anyone know if/where the site may be - if it still exists? Thanks. jeff
Yes it is on my ftp: L:\KLF Material\KLF KP3\JAMS this is where it is located. RMStringer ________________________________ There are two tragedies in life. One is to lose your heart's desire. The other is to gain it. George Bernard Shaw -----Original Message----- From: klf-bounces+rmstringer=peoplepc.com@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:klf-bounces+rmstringer=peoplepc.com@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of theREALmxyzptlk Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 7:43 PM To: All bound for Mu-Mu Land. Subject: [KLF] What the f**ck is going on?! Years ago there was a site with the whole LP encoded to mp3s - track titles, everything. Alas, I cannot find my burned copy of this treasure. Anyone know if/where the site may be - if it still exists? Thanks. jeff _______________________________________________ KLF mailing list KLF@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/klf
Nice post John. I'm sure it was dollars because I remember reading an interview where they had to order dollar bills from the bank. They thought they could just turn up and request them. I'll check on the footage because the beginning bit shows them in a van with a black bin bag of cash. Cheerio Andy
I heard it was scottish 5 pound notes. For some reason Scotland had their own 5 pound. This could explain why they had to be ordered. Scottish 5'ers would also make alot more sense than us-dollars. Ulrik Brandt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Lee" <andy@adlee.co.uk> To: "All bound for Mu-Mu Land." <klf@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 5:19 PM Subject: Re: [KLF] KLF live gigs
Nice post John.
I'm sure it was dollars because I remember reading an interview where they had to order dollar bills from the bank. They thought they could just turn up and request them. I'll check on the footage because the beginning bit shows them in a van with a black bin bag of cash.
Cheerio
Andy
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Found another one... September 30th 1989 - Helter Skelter - http://www.everythingstartswithe.co.uk/page/helterskelter.htm "Sept 30th Helterskelter hold their first party and manage to get 5000+ people in a muddy ploughed field near Banbury, Oxfordshire. The KLF demand to be paid for their live set in scottish pound notes. They write "children we love you" on them and throw them into the crowd. Maybe as a practice for the more famous burning of £million a few years later" L8rs, Nick ;-)
-----Original Message----- From: klf-bounces+nickwking=ntlworld.com@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:klf-bounces+nickwking=ntlworld.com@mailman.xmission.co m] On Behalf Of John Milne
Hi everyone,
I thought I'd just pop up and post something about "live" gigs. I know theres a list of live gigs somewhere on-line (can't remember the link, though), but for the record heres mine:
To add to the Scottish Pounds vs. U$ Dollars discussions... Either Vox or Details magazine also claim that it were Scottish notes because of the organizers raising their prices without giving notice before. Oh yes, here it is: "They discovered that people would pay to see them. At one rave they were disgusted to find that the organizers had gone back on their earlier word, inreasing the admission price by nine pounds. In protest the KLF got their fee in one thousand Scottish one-pound notes, wrote 'Children, we love you' on them, and threw them into the audience. It was a symbolic gesture." "After one song the money ran out. The audience then ignored the music and concentrated on hollering, 'We want more money.' It was a symbolic response." ..::// Thomas Touzimsky A Life? Cool! Where can I download one of those from?
it was scottish pound notes "the kids are always being ripped off... and we're un-ripping them." - bill drummond ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Touzimsky" <thomas@klf.de> To: <nickwking@ntlworld.com>; "'All bound for Mu-Mu Land.'" <klf@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 9:29 AM Subject: AW: [KLF] KLF live gigs
To add to the Scottish Pounds vs. U$ Dollars discussions... Either Vox or Details magazine also claim that it were Scottish notes because of the organizers raising their prices without giving notice before. Oh yes, here it is:
"They discovered that people would pay to see them. At one rave they were disgusted to find that the organizers had gone back on their earlier word, inreasing the admission price by nine pounds. In protest the KLF got their fee in one thousand Scottish one-pound notes, wrote 'Children, we love you' on them, and threw them into the audience. It was a symbolic gesture."
"After one song the money ran out. The audience then ignored the music and concentrated on hollering, 'We want more money.' It was a symbolic response."
..::// Thomas Touzimsky
A Life? Cool! Where can I download one of those from?
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Andy Lee -
John Milne -
Jon Doe -
Nick King -
PVC -
RMStringer -
Seb -
theREALmxyzptlk -
Thomas Touzimsky -
Ulrik Brandt