Hi list Something which John and I have been discussing off-list are the differences between the run-out texts on my two copies of KLF 4R. To all intents and purposes, the records are identical (same p/s, same sticker, etc.) and it's got me a bit baffled. It's probably nothing really, but I wondered if anyone could shed any light on it? #1 (has a printed sticker on the paper bag that the shop I bought it from stuck on it) KLF 004 R A / ORLAKE KLF 004 R B (the R and B are scratched over what look like a T and an A) / DAMONT * This one seems to match what John has * #2 KLF 004 R A / ORLAKE 'KLF 004 R B' scratched out and 'KLF 004 R B' written separately next to it) / 'DAMONT' scratched out and '9J4 79' written underneath it. All text (on both records) is hand-written. Chris
At 19:04 28/06/2003, Chris Peel wrote:
KLF 004 R A / ORLAKE KLF 004 R B (the R and B are scratched over what look like a T and an A) / DAMONT
my copy is like this, i assume it was cheaper to use the pressing plate from the KLF004T a side, rather than to re-master it.
KLF 004 R A / ORLAKE 'KLF 004 R B' scratched out and 'KLF 004 R B' written separately next to it) / 'DAMONT' scratched out and '9J4 79' written underneath it.
that's weird, given the scarcity of this 12" i wouldn't assume they pressed it twice in 1989. if you play the b side, is it really the correct (original wtil) mix, or could it be mispressed with something else? or perhaps it was a bad run that was discarded? is the quality of the pressing as good as the first one? or could it be yet another 2001/2002 (counterfeit) re-press? when did you buy it? cheers Robert
Wotcha list I need to answer a question. Anyone got a grey version of the IGUN 12"? Could you tell me what's written on the runout? On or off list don't mind Cheers Andy
Yep, mine's the same as John's and "air2mp3"'s, if that helps. Chris
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Wotcha list
I need to answer a question.
Anyone got a grey version of the IGUN 12"?
Could you tell me what's written on the runout?
On or off list don't mind
Cheers
Andy
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I'll compare both B sides and get back to you. From what I recall they both play the same thing (i.e. KLF004T-A-1), however. I see you're point about using the existing 004T plate rather than re-cutting a new one just for the same track. Apart from that, both records are identical and both come in paper bags (as opposed to translucent plastic bags which were used in the 1991/92 re-issues?). Sadly, I bought both copies post-1991 so there's no way I can be conclusive. Chris
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At 19:04 28/06/2003, Chris Peel wrote:
KLF 004 R A / ORLAKE KLF 004 R B (the R and B are scratched over what look like a T and an A) / DAMONT
my copy is like this, i assume it was cheaper to use the pressing plate from the KLF004T a side, rather than to re-master it.
KLF 004 R A / ORLAKE 'KLF 004 R B' scratched out and 'KLF 004 R B' written separately next to it) / 'DAMONT' scratched out and '9J4 79' written underneath it.
that's weird, given the scarcity of this 12" i wouldn't assume they pressed it twice in 1989.
if you play the b side, is it really the correct (original wtil) mix, or could it be mispressed with something else? or perhaps it was a bad run that was discarded? is the quality of the pressing as good as the first one?
or could it be yet another 2001/2002 (counterfeit) re-press? when did you buy it?
cheers
Robert
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cant help much here but Orlake is a pressing plant (was, went bust about 2 years ago, sold on etc)as is Damont, so at some point this looks like the pressing plant was chnged as you cant have one side pressed in one place and the other somewhere else without usually paying to get the metalwork back.
At 19:04 28/06/2003, Chris Peel wrote:
KLF 004 R A / ORLAKE KLF 004 R B (the R and B are scratched over what look like a T and an A) / DAMONT
my copy is like this, i assume it was cheaper to use the pressing plate from the KLF004T a side, rather than to re-master it.
KLF 004 R A / ORLAKE 'KLF 004 R B' scratched out and 'KLF 004 R B' written separately next to it) / 'DAMONT' scratched out and '9J4 79' written underneath it.
that's weird, given the scarcity of this 12" i wouldn't assume they pressed it twice in 1989.
if you play the b side, is it really the correct (original wtil) mix, or could it be mispressed with something else? or perhaps it was a bad run that was discarded? is the quality of the pressing as good as the first one?
or could it be yet another 2001/2002 (counterfeit) re-press? when did you buy it?
cheers
Robert
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Given all this, is there a (early) KLF record *without* any history? (/me hopes not!)
-----Original Message----- From: Jon Doe [mailto:jondoe@clsmweb.fsnet.co.uk] Sent: 29 June 2003 11:02 To: munkie@cloud9ine.com; All bound for Mu-Mu Land. Subject: Re: [KLF] Re: KLF 4R strangeness
cant help much here but Orlake is a pressing plant (was, went bust about 2 years ago, sold on etc)as is Damont, so at some point this looks like the pressing plant was chnged as you cant have one side pressed in one place and the other somewhere else without usually paying to get the metalwork back.
At 19:04 28/06/2003, Chris Peel wrote:
KLF 004 R A / ORLAKE KLF 004 R B (the R and B are scratched over what look like a T and an A) / DAMONT
my copy is like this, i assume it was cheaper to use the pressing plate from the KLF004T a side, rather than to re-master it.
KLF 004 R A / ORLAKE 'KLF 004 R B' scratched out and 'KLF 004 R B' written separately next to it) / 'DAMONT' scratched out and '9J4 79' written underneath it.
that's weird, given the scarcity of this 12" i wouldn't
assume they
pressed it twice in 1989.
if you play the b side, is it really the correct (original wtil) mix, or could it be mispressed with something else? or perhaps it was a bad run that was discarded? is the quality of the pressing as good as the first one?
or could it be yet another 2001/2002 (counterfeit) re-press? when did you buy it?
cheers
Robert
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