Ah right. Moaning. "The list" happens to consist largely of people talking about an ftp server several of us can't get into. So some of us are trying to work out how to, depsite the odd idiot like you. I don't remember signing anything saying that I wouldn't do that. ----- Original Message ----- From: TheRitesOfMu@aol.com To: daveclark_@ntlworld.com Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2004 10:53 AM Subject: MACS.... I dont even own a MAC..... not even a Rain MAC.... lol. i only put mac in bold to stop some-one moaning on the list. Thanx Wizard