RE: [KLF] bring the beat back & unknown WTIL edit download
My god! Is this the busiest the list has been for a couple of years? Great to see. Firstly, thanks to Simon for upping the Evil Edit. The Shamen had a track called "Evil Edit" on Phorward, didn't they? Anyone know if there might be a connection? Might B&J have got someone else (the Beatmasters or whoever) in to remix WTIL as a potential commercial single, and then it was abandoned? Alternatively, is it maybe the version intended for inclusion on TWROST in 1989? Maybe there are other odd tracks lurking out there - for example, how many people could have guessed "Mommy Don't" existed until it actually appeared? Also, Megaupload. Well, I tried to download the WAV, and it told me the file was "temporarily unavailable". Oh, well, I'll just have to do with the mp3. :-) As far as the greatest hits, well, Simon, you flatter me with the suggestion I write the sleevenotes! I like the idea of aping "Shag Times" with its press cuttings. Also, if this is a follow-up to "Shag Times" (JAMSCD20, of course!) then sticking purely to the KLF era is far more (forgive me) justified! Maybe we could cheat a bit and include the Timelords and IGUN. The reason why I mentioned radio edits for everything was purely because (a) it makes more space, and (b) the single, the edit, was always what the KLF were most interested in, I think, Their pop period has to be defined by radio edits. Other, more experimental and unreleased eras, could be better served by long and rare mixes. Anyway, I must go to bed. I'll be at Celtic Connections in Glasgow later this week, so might not be e-mailing much. I'm getting very excited about this Greatest Hits project, though! :-) John
Message Received: Jan 16 2007, 03:08 PM From: "Simon Glass" <tygerbc@yahoo.com> To: "All bound for Mu-Mu Land." <klf@mailman.xmission.com> Cc: Subject: RE: [KLF] bring the beat back & unknown WTIL edit download
yeah i got that White Room CD too, wrongly thinking it would be an improvement on previous cassette versions. also 20 pounds as you said. perhaps some of the other tracks were harder to get back then but you are not missing much re, BTBB now, and i've just made the only interesting track available =)
sorry for anyone having problems with megaupload, i simply copied the links it gave me but perhaps i missed something...don't use it very often
tbc.
Maarten Bouwes <bouwes@hotmail.com> wrote:
P { margin:0px; padding:0px } body { FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma } Thanks for the tracklist! I've just downloaded the track and will let you know what I think.
That other CD-R also came in a white card sleeve with a printed sticker saying: "KLF White Room s/track". Black innersleeve, no other info. It's in use now for storing my Love Trance labels. The CDR costed me around 20 pounds. Still got some letters laying around from a guy named "Pete" from vinyl addiction
Maarten
--------------------------------- Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 13:54:07 -0800 From: tygerbc@yahoo.com To: klf@mailman.xmission.com Subject: [KLF] bring the beat back & unknown WTIL edit download
OK for Maarten and anyone else who is interested here is the tracklist for the 'Bring the Beat Back' CD-R bootleg
I think this was *ahem* 'released' around 1997-98 and came on a blank blue cd-r in a card sleeve, printed sticker with the title and a nice little black inner sleeve but no other info/tracklist
1. WTIL (Power mix) 2. WTIL (Primal remix) 3. WTIL (Techno Slam mix) 4. WTIL (Pure Trance mix) 5. WTIL (Unknown edit - see below) 6. WTIL (DMC or similar mix - see below) 7. J&A (Anti-Accapella mix) 8. 3AM Eternal (feat ENT) 9. Madrugada Eterna (Club mix) 10.America WTIL (KLF92promo2 mix AKA What Time is January)
I sometimes get the Primal & Techno slam mixes the wrong way around so just in case, the former has an intro before the 2001 sample, the latter starts with the sample and is generally 'slammier'! I also don't have 004T to hand so track 4 is the mix with a beat. Track 6 is the DMC or similar DJ remix that starts "What Time Is Love W-W-What Time Is Love Love" or whatever...not great.
Track 5 is the aforementioned unknown edit i have never seen or heard elsewhere. Thomas, some time ago I shared this with the AudioGalaxy KLF group and you suggested it was the Power mix edit, but it's not! (incidentally the Power mix edit is an interesting track and quite different to the full mix IIRC). This edit has similarities with the Power, Monster Attack and Live at the Land of Oz mixes with similar (but different) 'live' drums, but is quite intense in it's tweaking and phasing if you turn up the volume. Accordingly I have uploaded it for people to check out, and have called it the evil (almost live!) edit, just for the hell of it:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=E39G8NIO
...is a WAV directly from the CD-R which my current computer drive seemed to manage OK sans the distortion i mentioned before (i had to do a bit of splicing due to the wonky track splits i mentioned). The distortion is possibly still present on the cymbal/hi-hat sounds as they sound a bit lispy, and there is a little background hiss at the end so if anyone feels the inclination to clean this up and probably do a better job than i could, please go for it
For those lazy f*ckers, dial-up kids or those with only a mild interest here is an MP3:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=IM5YMBZA
I would be interested to see what people think as I love this version...simple but effective, retaining the signature of the 004T mixes but a bit more varied and scary =)
tbc.
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For this project, i think we should go for rare and extended mixes, the radio edits were purely for the mainsteam marketing ploy of the KLF to fund their more important remixes. And also this is for the fans out there who crave tracks they dont have, for example; Madrugada 7:52min version, Trance Kylie Express 7:11,WTIL power remix 7:37 or WTIL live oz mix...er what about 2 cds, one mixed and the other with every version of WTIL that can be got? ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Milne" <john@highlandland.fsnet.co.uk> To: "All bound for Mu-Mu Land." <klf@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 10:28 PM Subject: RE: [KLF] bring the beat back & unknown WTIL edit download
My god! Is this the busiest the list has been for a couple of years? Great to see.
Firstly, thanks to Simon for upping the Evil Edit. The Shamen had a track called "Evil Edit" on Phorward, didn't they? Anyone know if there might be a connection? Might B&J have got someone else (the Beatmasters or whoever) in to remix WTIL as a potential commercial single, and then it was abandoned? Alternatively, is it maybe the version intended for inclusion on TWROST in 1989? Maybe there are other odd tracks lurking out there - for example, how many people could have guessed "Mommy Don't" existed until it actually appeared?
Also, Megaupload. Well, I tried to download the WAV, and it told me the file was "temporarily unavailable". Oh, well, I'll just have to do with the mp3. :-)
As far as the greatest hits, well, Simon, you flatter me with the suggestion I write the sleevenotes! I like the idea of aping "Shag Times" with its press cuttings. Also, if this is a follow-up to "Shag Times" (JAMSCD20, of course!) then sticking purely to the KLF era is far more (forgive me) justified! Maybe we could cheat a bit and include the Timelords and IGUN. The reason why I mentioned radio edits for everything was purely because (a) it makes more space, and (b) the single, the edit, was always what the KLF were most interested in, I think, Their pop period has to be defined by radio edits. Other, more experimental and unreleased eras, could be better served by long and rare mixes.
Anyway, I must go to bed. I'll be at Celtic Connections in Glasgow later this week, so might not be e-mailing much. I'm getting very excited about this Greatest Hits project, though! :-)
John
Message Received: Jan 16 2007, 03:08 PM From: "Simon Glass" <tygerbc@yahoo.com> To: "All bound for Mu-Mu Land." <klf@mailman.xmission.com> Cc: Subject: RE: [KLF] bring the beat back & unknown WTIL edit download
yeah i got that White Room CD too, wrongly thinking it would be an improvement on previous cassette versions. also 20 pounds as you said. perhaps some of the other tracks were harder to get back then but you are not missing much re, BTBB now, and i've just made the only interesting track available =)
sorry for anyone having problems with megaupload, i simply copied the links it gave me but perhaps i missed something...don't use it very often
tbc.
Maarten Bouwes <bouwes@hotmail.com> wrote:
P { margin:0px; padding:0px } body { FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma } Thanks for the tracklist! I've just downloaded the track and will let you know what I think.
That other CD-R also came in a white card sleeve with a printed sticker saying: "KLF White Room s/track". Black innersleeve, no other info. It's in use now for storing my Love Trance labels. The CDR costed me around 20 pounds. Still got some letters laying around from a guy named "Pete" from vinyl addiction
Maarten
--------------------------------- Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 13:54:07 -0800 From: tygerbc@yahoo.com To: klf@mailman.xmission.com Subject: [KLF] bring the beat back & unknown WTIL edit download
OK for Maarten and anyone else who is interested here is the tracklist for the 'Bring the Beat Back' CD-R bootleg
I think this was *ahem* 'released' around 1997-98 and came on a blank blue cd-r in a card sleeve, printed sticker with the title and a nice little black inner sleeve but no other info/tracklist
1. WTIL (Power mix) 2. WTIL (Primal remix) 3. WTIL (Techno Slam mix) 4. WTIL (Pure Trance mix) 5. WTIL (Unknown edit - see below) 6. WTIL (DMC or similar mix - see below) 7. J&A (Anti-Accapella mix) 8. 3AM Eternal (feat ENT) 9. Madrugada Eterna (Club mix) 10.America WTIL (KLF92promo2 mix AKA What Time is January)
I sometimes get the Primal & Techno slam mixes the wrong way around so just in case, the former has an intro before the 2001 sample, the latter starts with the sample and is generally 'slammier'! I also don't have 004T to hand so track 4 is the mix with a beat. Track 6 is the DMC or similar DJ remix that starts "What Time Is Love W-W-What Time Is Love Love" or whatever...not great.
Track 5 is the aforementioned unknown edit i have never seen or heard elsewhere. Thomas, some time ago I shared this with the AudioGalaxy KLF group and you suggested it was the Power mix edit, but it's not! (incidentally the Power mix edit is an interesting track and quite different to the full mix IIRC). This edit has similarities with the Power, Monster Attack and Live at the Land of Oz mixes with similar (but different) 'live' drums, but is quite intense in it's tweaking and phasing if you turn up the volume. Accordingly I have uploaded it for people to check out, and have called it the evil (almost live!) edit, just for the hell of it:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=E39G8NIO
...is a WAV directly from the CD-R which my current computer drive seemed to manage OK sans the distortion i mentioned before (i had to do a bit of splicing due to the wonky track splits i mentioned). The distortion is possibly still present on the cymbal/hi-hat sounds as they sound a bit lispy, and there is a little background hiss at the end so if anyone feels the inclination to clean this up and probably do a better job than i could, please go for it
For those lazy f*ckers, dial-up kids or those with only a mild interest here is an MP3:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=IM5YMBZA
I would be interested to see what people think as I love this version...simple but effective, retaining the signature of the 004T mixes but a bit more varied and scary =)
tbc.
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--------------------------------- Met MSN Spaces kun je per e-mail je weblog bijwerken. Publiceer leuke verhalen, foto's en meer! Het is gratis! Het is gratis! _______________________________________________ KLF mailing list KLF@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/klf Report list abuse to list-abuse at studio-nibble.com
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