Re: [KLF] Bill Drummond rejects recorded music in favour of 17-personchoirs | Music | The Guardian
Its fine collecting art just because its B&J, but the bottom line is art is about how the viewer or listener perceives & enjoys it. I've bought quite a few of jimmys cnpd prints and ended up selling some because I felt i'd bought them for the wrong reason. When I took time to stop and look at the pictures some just didn't float my boat,and I couldn't justify keeping them. ----- Original Message ---- From: klfboy _ <klfboy@hotmail.com> To: All bound for Mu-Mu Land. <klf@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, 26 July, 2008 5:22:43 PM Subject: Re: [KLF] Bill Drummond rejects recorded music in favour of 17-personchoirs | Music | The Guardian Art is OK, if the audience gets the message. But saying that recorded music is over, and time to move on to 17-person choirs, all this by a person who's become famous as a manager for bands AND a recording artist in his own right, with some pretty collectable albums and singles under his belt, is pretty confusing, isn't it? So if that was the point, to confuse, it succeeded :D You are right about tolerating the weird shit, but for me, it still seems like Bill's trying to distance himself from everything he's ever done musically, and doing it with a spoiled boy's attitude, as John Whitney said.
From: andrew@andrewfox.co.uk To: klf@mailman.xmission.com Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 07:56:03 +0100 Subject: Re: [KLF] Bill Drummond rejects recorded music in favour of 17-personchoirs | Music | The Guardian
What made the KLF interesting to me was the whole world they created around their music - it was never just about their music. I don't love everything Bill D or Jimmy C have done since the KLF, but for people to moan on a KLF list about 'art' and 'stuff that isn't related to music' and general 'weird shit', is absolutely bizarre to me. We're talking about the KLF for chrissakes. The KLF!! The finest weird art pop rave band of all time! If you don't like, or at least tolerate the weird shit, then why on Earth could you be arsed to be on this list?
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For anyone interested - Amazon now claim to have "17" in stock .. although my "expected delivery date" still seems to be almost 3 weeks away. Also, for Glasgow bods - Bill will be in Waterstone's to talk about the book on Mon 15th Sept. Think it's possible to book for it if you're interested. Finally .. I'm currently half-way through The Illuminatus! Trilogy. UTTER madness .. but truly brilliant. Can't recommend it enough and at £6.99 for 800 odd pages it's a bit of a steal. Chief 2008/7/26 Tim Tim <gunsofmu@yahoo.co.uk>
Its fine collecting art just because its B&J, but the bottom line is art is about how the viewer or listener perceives & enjoys it. I've bought quite a few of jimmys cnpd prints and ended up selling some because I felt i'd bought them for the wrong reason. When I took time to stop and look at the pictures some just didn't float my boat,and I couldn't justify keeping them.
----- Original Message ---- From: klfboy _ <klfboy@hotmail.com> To: All bound for Mu-Mu Land. <klf@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, 26 July, 2008 5:22:43 PM Subject: Re: [KLF] Bill Drummond rejects recorded music in favour of 17-personchoirs | Music | The Guardian
Art is OK, if the audience gets the message. But saying that recorded music is over, and time to move on to 17-person choirs, all this by a person who's become famous as a manager for bands AND a recording artist in his own right, with some pretty collectable albums and singles under his belt, is pretty confusing, isn't it? So if that was the point, to confuse, it succeeded :D
You are right about tolerating the weird shit, but for me, it still seems like Bill's trying to distance himself from everything he's ever done musically, and doing it with a spoiled boy's attitude, as John Whitney said.
From: andrew@andrewfox.co.uk To: klf@mailman.xmission.com Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 07:56:03 +0100 Subject: Re: [KLF] Bill Drummond rejects recorded music in favour of 17-personchoirs | Music | The Guardian
What made the KLF interesting to me was the whole world they created around their music - it was never just about their music. I don't love everything Bill D or Jimmy C have done since the KLF, but for people to moan on a KLF list about 'art' and 'stuff that isn't related to music' and general 'weird shit', is absolutely bizarre to me. We're talking about the KLF for chrissakes. The KLF!! The finest weird art pop rave band of all time! If you don't like, or at least tolerate the weird shit, then why on Earth could you be arsed to be on this list?
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half-way through The Illuminatus! Trilogy. UTTER madness Just working my way through the Appendices at the moment. I think Ive been reading it since Christmas, its so hard going, and it helps if you are in a certain mood when reading it. But I feel like Ive learnt something, Im just not sure what. From: klf-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:klf-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of chief dejaya Sent: 29 July 2008 16:05 To: All bound for Mu-Mu Land. Subject: Re: [KLF] Bill Drummond rejects recorded music in favour of 17-personchoirs | Music | The Guardian For anyone interested - Amazon now claim to have "17" in stock .. although my "expected delivery date" still seems to be almost 3 weeks away. Also, for Glasgow bods - Bill will be in Waterstone's to talk about the book on Mon 15th Sept. Think it's possible to book for it if you're interested. Finally .. I'm currently half-way through The Illuminatus! Trilogy. UTTER madness .. but truly brilliant. Can't recommend it enough and at £6.99 for 800 odd pages it's a bit of a steal. Chief 2008/7/26 Tim Tim <gunsofmu@yahoo.co.uk> Its fine collecting art just because its B&J, but the bottom line is art is about how the viewer or listener perceives & enjoys it. I've bought quite a few of jimmys cnpd prints and ended up selling some because I felt i'd bought them for the wrong reason. When I took time to stop and look at the pictures some just didn't float my boat,and I couldn't justify keeping them. ----- Original Message ---- From: klfboy _ <klfboy@hotmail.com> To: All bound for Mu-Mu Land. <klf@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, 26 July, 2008 5:22:43 PM Subject: Re: [KLF] Bill Drummond rejects recorded music in favour of 17-personchoirs | Music | The Guardian Art is OK, if the audience gets the message. But saying that recorded music is over, and time to move on to 17-person choirs, all this by a person who's become famous as a manager for bands AND a recording artist in his own right, with some pretty collectable albums and singles under his belt, is pretty confusing, isn't it? So if that was the point, to confuse, it succeeded :D You are right about tolerating the weird shit, but for me, it still seems like Bill's trying to distance himself from everything he's ever done musically, and doing it with a spoiled boy's attitude, as John Whitney said.
From: andrew@andrewfox.co.uk To: klf@mailman.xmission.com Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 07:56:03 +0100 Subject: Re: [KLF] Bill Drummond rejects recorded music in favour of 17-personchoirs | Music | The Guardian
What made the KLF interesting to me was the whole world they created around their music - it was never just about their music. I don't love everything Bill D or Jimmy C have done since the KLF, but for people to moan on a KLF list about 'art' and 'stuff that isn't related to music' and general 'weird shit', is absolutely bizarre to me. We're talking about the KLF for chrissakes. The KLF!! The finest weird art pop rave band of all time! If you don't like, or at least tolerate the weird shit, then why on Earth could you be arsed to be on this list?
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What made me think - Bill tells us that recorded music is dead, or it should be since it destroys the worth of music for being available anywhere at any moment, therefore being reduced from something to experience to something we consume without really paying attention to it. And then he goes out and writes a book? I mean, books are around quite longer than recorded music is, and all the things he criticizes about the latter also apply to the printed word. ..::// Thomas Touzimsky "My wife is passionately fond of flowers, and I always give her a punch on her birthday." - Letter in daily paper
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What made me think - Bill tells us that recorded music is dead, or it should be since it destroys the worth of music for being available anywhere at any moment, therefore being reduced from something to experience to something we consume without really paying attention to it.
And then he goes out and writes a book? I mean, books are around quite longer than recorded music is, and all the things he criticizes about the latter also apply to the printed word.
Bill Drummond in making unsupportable statements for their confrontational/thought-provoking nature SHOCKER!
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