Is the Orb list any saner these days?

No. Here's a snip from some Ayn Rand fundie there along with my reply to him this morning. It would be funny if it weren't so sad and if it wasn't connected to the tragedy in London. <snip> Tim C wrote:

Anyone that disagrees with my assessment is, in fact, and I do mean in absolute, pay attention to reality (there is only one folks), actual fact, incorrect. I will not bother to argue this, so please don't argue back - if you disagree, you're part of the problem. Lack of reason is what is destroying the earth - faith leads to force - there is no other way.

Wow. A megalomaniac. I don't need your websites to inform me about Rand, as she was one of my thesis topics in one of my degrees. YOUR faith is a system which contradicts basic Aristotelian principles of logic while claiming to be built on them and shows a great deal of ignorance - both in the system to which you adhere and of the religions you do not understand. Having spent 6 years of study in the latter field myself, I speak with (not expertise, but) some clue. You might ask yourself which religion Pol Pot claimed. Or not. Because then you'd have to argue with yourself and since your assessment is absolutely correct, you will probably have to self destruct. Or maybe tape yourself up with explosives and take as many as possible of the non-Randian true believers with you. jeff