What part of "Doesn't belong on this list" don't you understand? You can argue the point all you want but when it comes down to it the fact remains that there are more appropriate places to post this stuff. If any of us have an interest in this stuff we can and will seek it out in more relevant forums. Hell, there's a link to one such group at the bottom of the post! And why are you posting from two different email addresses? -paul Currently in rotation: Frank Zappa - Cheap Thrills / Son of Cheep Thrills; Enigma - Voyager (advance); Apollo 440 - Dude Descending a Staicase