Anyone else really confused about this one? It has to be a bootleg as the original was only meant to be a flexi-disc, unless someone knows better. I do have the track that made the rounds as Deep Shit online and the intro is definitely legit, although the rest of the track was The Queen and I. Personally, while a bit disappointing, I thought that made a lot of sense. Regarding the White Room video, I know there was talk of doing a new transfer. Any news on that? I've got the surprisingly decent .mpg that has made the rounds for a long time of it, though I'd love to see a higher resolution rip of it too.
That's not true. From Lazlo's definitive discography:: The KLF: Deep Shit Part 3 [Aug 1989] unreleased single 12"WL: 1989 UK (KLF Communications; KLF 010IR) [x6] Deep Shit Part 3 (the illegal remix) Deep Shit Part 2 The Lovers' Side I can't prove this, but I believe The KLF intended to release this as an adjunct to the 1989 original White Room soundtrack as either: 1. A free 12" included with the WROST vinyl as a bonus loss leader OR 2. A limited 12" of a few thousand released simultaneously to WROST to further flesh-out the "danger" the KLF placed themselves in because of "1987." Judging from rips I've heard this was a very real thing and the six copies do exist. Dan Hutchins On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 6:32 PM, murderbyproxy666@gmail.com < murderbyproxy666@gmail.com> wrote:
Anyone else really confused about this one? It has to be a bootleg as the original was only meant to be a flexi-disc, unless someone knows better. I do have the track that made the rounds as Deep Shit online and the intro is definitely legit, although the rest of the track was The Queen and I. Personally, while a bit disappointing, I thought that made a lot of sense.
Regarding the White Room video, I know there was talk of doing a new transfer. Any news on that? I've got the surprisingly decent .mpg that has made the rounds for a long time of it, though I'd love to see a higher resolution rip of it too. _______________________________________________ KLF mailing list KLF@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/klf Report list abuse to list-abuse at studio-nibble.com
On 17.2.2012 3:03, Dan Hutchins wrote:
12"WL:1989 UK (KLF Communications; KLF 010IR) [x6] Deep Shit Part 3 (the illegal remix) Deep Shit Part 2 The Lovers' Side
Hmmh...these two versions which I have recently seen on ebay (Andys and the other few weeks ago) were KLF 010-IT, not 010IR and I guess those included DS Part 3 and Lover's side only. BTW, does anyone host KLF discography online anymore? klf.de/discography is gone and klf-communications.net seems to be gone too.. :( -- al
The files are still there, though not accessable. I could move them to another URL this weekend for now. ..::// Thomas Antti Lavio <antti.lavio@possu.org> hat am 17. Februar 2012 um 07:32 geschrieben:
BTW, does anyone host KLF discography online anymore? klf.de/discography is gone and klf-communications.net seems to be gone too.. :(
-- al
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Lazlo's Discography Machine has the oldest and most accurate KLF discography: http://www.studio-nibble.com/lazlo-bin/discogs Dan On Feb 17, 2012, at 4:42 AM, "tto@klf.de" <tto@klf.de> wrote:
The files are still there, though not accessable. I could move them to another URL this weekend for now.
..::// Thomas
Antti Lavio <antti.lavio@possu.org> hat am 17. Februar 2012 um 07:32 geschrieben:
BTW, does anyone host KLF discography online anymore? klf.de/discography is gone and klf-communications.net seems to be gone too.. :(
-- al
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On 17.2.2012 12:25, Dan T. Hutchins wrote:
Lazlo's Discography Machine has the oldest and most accurate KLF discography: http://www.studio-nibble.com/lazlo-bin/discogs
Oh great, thanks! I have forgotten this one, but I must agree with the accuracy as I think klf.de -version was more accurate. But of course, both of them are not up to date, as they are lacking quite many stuff that has recently surfaced. Meaning all the PVC stuff and salvaged demo tapes etc. It would be really nice to have user editable discography, maybe even whole KLF wiki, with discography with detailed release information, timelines, press releases, scans, history, details, all the small bits and pieces :) I personally would be happy to contribute to something like this but unfortunately lacking technical skills and hosting possibilities. Also, it would great opportunity for list members for presenting themselves, as it seems that some of you has been in direct contacts with Bill and Jimmy, or even worked with them or someone close to them, and at least I am very interested to hear these stories! -- anttil.
A KLF wiki sounds like a great idea. How about invading and expanding the KLF pages on Wikipedia? Andy On 17 February 2012 10:50, Antti Lavio <antti.lavio@possu.org> wrote:
On 17.2.2012 12:25, Dan T. Hutchins wrote:
Lazlo's Discography Machine has the oldest and most accurate KLF discography: http://www.studio-nibble.com/**lazlo-bin/discogs<http://www.studio-nibble.com/lazlo-bin/discogs>
Oh great, thanks! I have forgotten this one, but I must agree with the accuracy as I think klf.de -version was more accurate.
But of course, both of them are not up to date, as they are lacking quite many stuff that has recently surfaced. Meaning all the PVC stuff and salvaged demo tapes etc.
It would be really nice to have user editable discography, maybe even whole KLF wiki, with discography with detailed release information, timelines, press releases, scans, history, details, all the small bits and pieces :) I personally would be happy to contribute to something like this but unfortunately lacking technical skills and hosting possibilities.
Also, it would great opportunity for list members for presenting themselves, as it seems that some of you has been in direct contacts with Bill and Jimmy, or even worked with them or someone close to them, and at least I am very interested to hear these stories!
-- anttil.
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On 17.2.2012 12:58, Andy Lee wrote:
A KLF wiki sounds like a great idea. How about invading and expanding the KLF pages on Wikipedia?
That is an option, but I personally would prefer a own wiki for KLF. Somehow it sounds more reasonable to have a own wiki for a large topic like KLF and maybe people would be more willingly to contribute to "not so public" wiki. Also lot's of stuff we have is based only on rumors and hearsay and is not confirmed by any "reliable" source and probably will not ever be. For example, old mailing list archive has TONS of very interesting and forgotten stuff and it dates back to 1997: http://user.xmission.com/pub/lists/klf/ -- anttil.
I should be able to set up a wiki on the liberation loophole domain, if we'd rather it was kept away from the general Wikipedia were we'd be subject to the admins endless (citation needed) and [this is a stub] edits On 17 Feb 2012, at 11:49, Antti Lavio <antti.lavio@possu.org> wrote:
On 17.2.2012 12:58, Andy Lee wrote:
A KLF wiki sounds like a great idea. How about invading and expanding the KLF pages on Wikipedia?
That is an option, but I personally would prefer a own wiki for KLF. Somehow it sounds more reasonable to have a own wiki for a large topic like KLF and maybe people would be more willingly to contribute to "not so public" wiki. Also lot's of stuff we have is based only on rumors and hearsay and is not confirmed by any "reliable" source and probably will not ever be.
For example, old mailing list archive has TONS of very interesting and forgotten stuff and it dates back to 1997: http://user.xmission.com/pub/lists/klf/
-- anttil.
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http://www.simplypointless.com/uploads/discography/ Soooo.... what's missing? ..::// Thomas Touzimsky "The idea [of action movies] that one hero can triumph over waves of idiots if he's skilled enough is the exact fantasy of thousands of IT workers, and why they want to beat people up for fun." - Luke McKinney (Cracked.com) Am 17.02.2012 um 10:42 schrieb tto@klf.de:
The files are still there, though not accessable. I could move them to another URL this weekend for now.
..::// Thomas
Antti Lavio <antti.lavio@possu.org> hat am 17. Februar 2012 um 07:32 geschrieben:
BTW, does anyone host KLF discography online anymore? klf.de/discography is gone and klf-communications.net seems to be gone too.. :(
-- al
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On 19.2.2012 9:54, Thomas Touzimsky wrote:
http://www.simplypointless.com/uploads/discography/
Soooo.... what's missing?
Wooop! Thank you very much! First thing that comes to my mind is of course Love Trance and secondly, all the tracks and remixes included in PVC T-shirts. -- anttil.
I was messing about this weekend and found a wiki is built into my server, so I enabled it to see how well the discography might translate into that kind of format. Here's what i got done so far: http://wiki.liberationloophole.co.uk/ (if anyone wants to edit/update anything on there, login is klfwiki/klfwiki ) Unfortunately, there's some missing functionality in the wiki server that's provided as-is. Namely, at the moment it has to reside on my own domain, so there's a redirect from the above url. Trying to fix that. Also, no easy way to automatically build/update a table of contents type page, so to find anything it's either browsing all the documents that are there or using the search. Again, working on that, perhaps using tags or something. Anyway, came to the conclusion that while a wiki is certainly a much more modern approach, it's not necessarily any easier for the end user than the currently big text file format. However, I guess the advantage would be that updating it is easier as many people can do it rather than it falling to just one person. Also came to the conclusion that would probably been better going with a stand alone wiki software like mediawiki or something instead of the built in one, but as this was just an experiment I didn't want to waste time trying to sort out the mysql problems I have on that machine in order to install the wiki software. On 19 Feb 2012, at 08:47, Antti Lavio <antti.lavio@possu.org> wrote:
On 19.2.2012 9:54, Thomas Touzimsky wrote:
http://www.simplypointless.com/uploads/discography/
Soooo.... what's missing?
Wooop! Thank you very much!
First thing that comes to my mind is of course Love Trance and secondly, all the tracks and remixes included in PVC T-shirts.
-- anttil.
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Hi everyone. I'm new to this mailing list although I've been a KLF collector for a long time. Don't know why it took me so long to sign up to the list. While the text based discography has it's uses I think the best place to keep track of releases is http://www.discogs.com A lot of releases on Discogs are up to date while some needs updating and a few are plain wrong. Some of you will know me as "Bong" on Discogs. /Hans 2012/2/20 jai nelson <zero_23@mac.com>
I was messing about this weekend and found a wiki is built into my server, so I enabled it to see how well the discography might translate into that kind of format.
Here's what i got done so far: http://wiki.liberationloophole.co.uk/ (if anyone wants to edit/update anything on there, login is klfwiki/klfwiki )
Unfortunately, there's some missing functionality in the wiki server that's provided as-is. Namely, at the moment it has to reside on my own domain, so there's a redirect from the above url. Trying to fix that.
Also, no easy way to automatically build/update a table of contents type page, so to find anything it's either browsing all the documents that are there or using the search. Again, working on that, perhaps using tags or something.
Anyway, came to the conclusion that while a wiki is certainly a much more modern approach, it's not necessarily any easier for the end user than the currently big text file format. However, I guess the advantage would be that updating it is easier as many people can do it rather than it falling to just one person.
Also came to the conclusion that would probably been better going with a stand alone wiki software like mediawiki or something instead of the built in one, but as this was just an experiment I didn't want to waste time trying to sort out the mysql problems I have on that machine in order to install the wiki software.
On 19 Feb 2012, at 08:47, Antti Lavio <antti.lavio@possu.org> wrote:
On 19.2.2012 9:54, Thomas Touzimsky wrote:
http://www.simplypointless.com/uploads/discography/
Soooo.... what's missing?
Wooop! Thank you very much!
First thing that comes to my mind is of course Love Trance and secondly, all the tracks and remixes included in PVC T-shirts.
-- anttil.
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The one thing I don't like about Discogs is that too many people try to force-choke their understanding of the guidelines down other members' throats and you end up with a KLF page that makes no sense. There are three master entries for "WTIL?" (004T, 004X, 004Y) while almost all "3AM" releases are crammed into one single entry (which even featured the suffix "Pure Trance 2"). ..::// Thomas
On 21.2.2012 14:20, tto@klf.de wrote:
The one thing I don't like about Discogs is that too many people try to force-choke their understanding of the guidelines down other members' throats and you end up with a KLF page that makes no sense.
In my dream world, we maybe would have a wiki-style approach where we could have everything we know, from discography to timeline and even the smallest details. As some of the list members have been in direct contact with B&J and their friends, or have worked with pressing plants, studios and record stores associated to them, we have tons on stories that we all like to hear. Also I personally, and pretty sure that others are too, am interested about history of certain release or bootleg. Where did it come from, where did it surface first an so on. And that's why I think wiki would most suitable for this. One example would be path Orbs Mummie Don't -> Eternal Space Cadets (Orbital Hum) -> 3AM, but there's much more. Of course, this would demand quite heavy participation from "senior" members of the list, and I of course understand that this could be impossible. But just my thoughts :) -- anttil.
I agree with what you say about discogs, you can only upload 3 items and then you need votes before you can upload any more and its a nightmare because everyone seems to have an opinion on whats right before you get a vote. Apart from that it is a good database. ________________________________ From: Antti Lavio <antti.lavio@possu.org> To: All bound for Mu-Mu Land. <klf@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, 21 February 2012, 12:36 Subject: Re: [KLF] New discography - updates On 21.2.2012 14:20, tto@klf.de wrote:
The one thing I don't like about Discogs is that too many people try to force-choke their understanding of the guidelines down other members' throats and you end up with a KLF page that makes no sense.
In my dream world, we maybe would have a wiki-style approach where we could have everything we know, from discography to timeline and even the smallest details. As some of the list members have been in direct contact with B&J and their friends, or have worked with pressing plants, studios and record stores associated to them, we have tons on stories that we all like to hear. Also I personally, and pretty sure that others are too, am interested about history of certain release or bootleg. Where did it come from, where did it surface first an so on. And that's why I think wiki would most suitable for this. One example would be path Orbs Mummie Don't -> Eternal Space Cadets (Orbital Hum) -> 3AM, but there's much more. Of course, this would demand quite heavy participation from "senior" members of the list, and I of course understand that this could be impossible. But just my thoughts :) -- anttil. _______________________________________________ KLF mailing list KLF@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/klf Report list abuse to list-abuse at studio-nibble.com
From what I have gathered, a MediaWiki page might be the best option. I would certainly support that. ..::// Thomas Touzimsky "[B]rewed with pride, yet with furious impatience and bad temper. We scream violent threats at this beer every day to make it brew faster." - Stuart Bruce (Serious Beer Project) Am 21.02.2012 um 13:36 schrieb Antti Lavio:
On 21.2.2012 14:20, tto@klf.de wrote:
The one thing I don't like about Discogs is that too many people try to force-choke their understanding of the guidelines down other members' throats and you end up with a KLF page that makes no sense.
In my dream world, we maybe would have a wiki-style approach where we could have everything we know, from discography to timeline and even the smallest details.
As some of the list members have been in direct contact with B&J and their friends, or have worked with pressing plants, studios and record stores associated to them, we have tons on stories that we all like to hear.
Also I personally, and pretty sure that others are too, am interested about history of certain release or bootleg. Where did it come from, where did it surface first an so on. And that's why I think wiki would most suitable for this. One example would be path Orbs Mummie Don't -> Eternal Space Cadets (Orbital Hum) -> 3AM, but there's much more.
Of course, this would demand quite heavy participation from "senior" members of the list, and I of course understand that this could be impossible.
But just my thoughts :)
-- anttil.
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It is not a bootleg. Happy to show anyoneSold to me by a old friend of the KLF back in the day when they had a gang of groupies.
From: murderbyproxy666@gmail.com Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 18:32:21 -0500 To: klf@mailman.xmission.com Subject: [KLF] Deep Shit 12"?
Anyone else really confused about this one? It has to be a bootleg as the original was only meant to be a flexi-disc, unless someone knows better. I do have the track that made the rounds as Deep Shit online and the intro is definitely legit, although the rest of the track was The Queen and I. Personally, while a bit disappointing, I thought that made a lot of sense.
Regarding the White Room video, I know there was talk of doing a new transfer. Any news on that? I've got the surprisingly decent .mpg that has made the rounds for a long time of it, though I'd love to see a higher resolution rip of it too. _______________________________________________ KLF mailing list KLF@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/klf Report list abuse to list-abuse at studio-nibble.com
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