Re: [KLF] RE: Love trash (was:"Oohs", "wahhs", "muuus" and all that)
Alex Patterson often wondered why the first Cydonia versions were bootlegged before being distributed officially. The only thing Alex could think of was that someone from "inside" made these early versions available. His right hand slipped these demo's out since he had acces to the masters. The Monster Attack Mix has been pressed upto 3. The discog states that both B&J and Youth got one. </speculation on> Due to "public demand", it was released but not by B&J, since they've never had the intention releasing this track on forehand. Remains Youth as the 3rd one who ownes a copy. Maybe he was the one. </speculation off > Regarding Love Trance: If you're listening at 3 am and wtil,you'll be struck by the fact that it's a *totally* different track. It contains a line sung by a woman. Now that's a rather uncommon thing for those pure trance releases, isn't it? Could be a fan made mix, which I doubt by the way. *Or* Youth made it and featured as the b-side mix for PT3, The vinyl is heavy with round edges. The same as KLF010R; +/-180 gr I think. Boots are often more flexi and haven't got those round edges. Am not doubting the authenticity of the record ansich since it was pressed by adrenalin. Same handwriting etc. The reasons why I am doubting about it's authenticity are the following: First of all, I am the proud? owner of the A and B side labels of PT3. John is the owner of the PT4 labels (the yellow ones) Usually, labels are made to be stuck on records, not for selling seperately. Same goes for the sleeves. Moreover, Jimmy is clear in his interviews at brandnew.co.uk stating the PT3 never been recorded/pressed due to the acid thing. They scrapped the whole sessions. The only surviving record then was 008R. The only ones who could clearify this, are, ofcourse, the mystical duo themselfs, who probabely won't give a flying fcuk about this whole discussion anyways... M
Love Trance/Love Trash whateveryouwannacallitandpayforanafterhourpressing.
Ofcourse it's a genuine item. How can I be so blind not seeing this!?
Sarcasm aside, I too feel it's genuine, based on the clarity of the b-side, the Monster Attack mix of WTIL.
Too have included that track, which, according to the discog, was only pressed on 3 discs but we'll say it's slightly higher, you would need to have one of the following:
- an original pressing with Monster on it - One of the two bootleg compilations containing it (WROST and Arkive 1) - Master tapes .
The sound quality of Miles pressing of Monster far surpasses the quality of both the bootleg version so they are clearly ruled out.
So, the bootlegger must have had their own copy of Monster, or it's genuine. Chances are that the bootleger/manufacturer had a copy of this pressing, plus a set of labels and sleeves narrows down that option considerably. But there is still that chance.
Given the facts, which is more likely? (not that facts matter to some here)
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I'm with Maarten 100% on this. Why? I don't like love trance, it just doesn't have it. It hasn't got that ingredient "K" thing. You know when you hear a track you should not get to hear... Not love trance. My guess is that it was planned as a concept and just not done/finished (like so much in the KLF universe) Just a feeling. Andy
Maarten Bouwes wrote:
Alex Patterson often wondered why the first Cydonia versions were bootlegged before being distributed officially. The only thing Alex could think of was that someone from "inside" made these early versions available. His right hand slipped these demo's out since he had acces to the masters.
The very earliest Cydonia demos (the 2-CD-R set), maybe; but for the next two versions, the *record company* burned a number of promos, and sent them around. Not too shocking that they were CD-Red and mp3ed, with a number of copies out there. And the 2-CD demo version of Cydonia didn't make it into general circulation until well after Cydonia was actually released. Sometimes, Alex isn't the brightest bulb in the bunch. Chris np: Psychic TV - Origin Of The Species II
Alex Patterson often wondered why the first Cydonia versions were bootlegged before being distributed officially. The only thing Alex could think of was that someone from "inside" made these early versions available. His right hand slipped these demo's out since he had acces to the masters.
just to back up what chris said: cydonia v1 / v2 / v3 were all promo'd by island records, and were fairly easy to pick up if you knew the right people / knew where to look. lx seemed to blame andy hughes for the fact that they were out on the net, and magically failed to forget about the fact that his record label had been sending versions of the album out for nearly two years before the "final" version appeared. i'm also fairly certain that andy didn't pass on the 2cd "demos" either, as he always said that if they got out, he would be the first in the firing line... ...and as copies were going round island records at the time, you can probably draw your own conclusions. --- Smiley
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