hey who's joking, this isnt a joke so stop treating it like some school ground argument. You are not even discussing the information i gave just talking about why you dont like reading it. The point in listing loads of information and names of companies involved in the arms trade hopefully makes people think, talk etc fuck me do I really need to explain that by discussing a problem it may lead to more and more people demanding change. are you on purpose trying to waste my time? Considering that you seem to care so much about the aniversary of many peoples deaths you dont actually seem to want to change anything. Of course we are being monitored. So fucking what. Its too late to worry about shit like that. we've already discussed why i chose to do this on a KLF related list, its because i love the KLF and what they stood for and presumed other fans of this no compromise group were also open minded and forward thinking. So you live in hungary, so i live in england so people live where they live and thats that, yeah its good to have a living and a wage and stuff but whats that got to do with this? What are you saying that because you need a living you'd accept a million pounds from some fucker to blow something up so you family could eat forever? its not related. Neither did i say grow a moustache and get a gun did I?! TALK IS NOT VIOLENT!!!! and why should your life you love be so seperated from work and normal life? I know what you mean but surely this is bad and because of people not being able to relate etc. PS if you're so worried about mentioning the illuminatus trilogy i sugest you stop mentioning it! PS there is an excellent DVD out called DiSinformation with a talk from Robert Anton Wilson on there. SEE YA

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sorry just read this bit. when did i ever mention vilence? You get the wrong idea, fuck knows where from ybut you got it. Where did i mention violence? Surely the only way forward is a spread of information till people stop acting like evil ignorant peices of shit. also you may be happy working for shit and paying taxes to

So will the world be a better place when You post a hundred million names? NO. Then what are You up to? Or do You wanna get in trouble? You ARE being monitored even when You post this!

You didn't mention violence, I thought it laid among Your lines. Since the anniversary is coming, someone posted a message about the 2001 sept events. I don't know what's the point doing it in a music-related list. And saying it's "fukd up". Question: did people really died when that thing happened? Answer: YES. So there are 364 other days in a year when anybody can claim that it wasn't happening then, or it was plotted. But now now. It's like joking with atom bomb on the Hiroshima anniversary. That's it for me.

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cunts but ask anyone in the 3rd world about the butt fuck. Of course

I live in the Middle-Eastern Europe (post-pinko) so I know what I know. The reality is that You gotta have a living and a job, cause if You don't, You'll end up homeless, that's the way it goes in Hungary niowadays. And even when You're working like a dog they may fire You. And the taxes are going up. I don't like this either but I don't wanna grow a moustache and buy a pair of guns and change my name to Charles Bronson. Of course the gov. have its bite from me but I have my own life very apart from my work and "normal" life. That keeps me going.

If You read the Illuminatus! books then You should know that mentioning them is not the wisest thing in the world, especially naming them. Instead of this go and see the fnords -I can see them everywhere, and nowadays I'm seeing more fnords than usual, if You get my meaning.

And about the people: PANEM ET CIRCENSES, as the Romans said. Everybody (or the vast majority) is kept busy with 9-5 jobs and then going home watching reality shows or football matches and drinking beer or tea. That's it. Modern life is rubbish. But we all know this already. That's why we are HERE.

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its everyones fault and problem for allowing this shit to go off so its surely time to talk about it.

Yeah surely but not in a band-related mailing list.

a Gyerek

"I just don't understand the ways of the world today, sometimes I feel like there's nothing to live for, so I'm longing for the days of yesterday" (TLC: Sumthin' Wicked This Way Comes)

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